Microsoft Points Die With Next Xbox 360 Update

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Johnny Wishbone

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tippy2k2 said:
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Arkaijn said:
Didn't this happen a month ago?
That's what I was thinking. I bought Skyrim a couple of days ago on the XBLM and the transaction was with straightforward currency.
Xbox Live stuff (like Arcade or DLC) has been in points. Xbox Live Digital Download (full games like Skyrim) always showed up in actual money. I have no clue why Microsoft did it that way...

cricket chirps said:
So what happens to any left over points already currently on our accounts?
According to Microsoft's Xbox Reward's FAQ:

"To make this a seamless and positive experience for our customers, we have considered many factors to help ensure that the amount added to your Microsoft account will be of equal or greater Marketplace value than your Microsoft Points. Marketplace value may not always be equivalent to retail price. Retail price is determined by the Retailer, whereas Marketplace value reflects the value of Points throughout Microsoft stores."

In English: They're changing your Xbox Live points to real currency

No. In English: They're changing your Xbox Live points to real currency at an unspecified exchange rate that will be best for them (Microsoft) while claiming it is the best for you (the consumer). Remember who you are dealing with, people.

I actually liked the points system. First off, I never had to give a company like Microsoft any of my personal information, especially a credit card number. Second, if you paid attention and applied a little common sense, the points system was the only place you could actually game the system in your favor. Paying retail prices for points cards is for suckers and idiots. I always waited until points cards went on sale on Amazon or Ebay, and always bought them at a price equivalent to 1 cent per point. IE: buy a 1200 point card for no more than $12 or a 4000 point card for no more than $40. Anyone who went to Best Buy and paid $19.99 for a 1200 point card is a moron and paid 1.66 cents per point. Therefore, anything they purchased with those points, they paid more for it than I did. An 800 point DLC would cost them $13.28 (800 x 1.66) whereas it only cost me $8. That's a big difference in price for two people using the same currency model (dollars). I suspect this is a big reason why Microsoft wants to get rid of points.
 

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Mick P. said:
Didn't you win "points" from playing games on the Xbox though? Just like you get points for smoking cigarettes. If not why were they called points in the first place? If so, that seems like kind of a loss, if you are addicted to Xbox games.
Nopes

Achievement points are pointless e-penis scores what make my life worth living while Live points is your currency (like a poker chip at a casino or carnival tickets). Achievement points are worth absolutely nothing except for rubbing in your noob friends face for not having as much time as you do :)

Johnny Wishbone said:
No. In English: They're changing your Xbox Live points to real currency at an unspecified exchange rate that will be best for them (Microsoft) while claiming it is the best for you (the consumer). Remember who you are dealing with, people.

I actually liked the points system. First off, I never had to give a company like Microsoft any of my personal information, especially a credit card number. Second, if you paid attention and applied a little common sense, the points system was the only place you could actually game the system in your favor. Paying retail prices for points cards is for suckers and idiots. I always waited until points cards went on sale on Amazon or Ebay, and always bought them at a price equivalent to 1 cent per point. IE: buy a 1200 point card for no more than $12 or a 4000 point card for no more than $40. Anyone who went to Best Buy and paid $19.99 for a 1200 point card is a moron and paid 1.66 cents per point. Therefore, anything they purchased with those points, they paid more for it than I did. An 800 point DLC would cost them $13.28 (800 x 1.66) whereas it only cost me $8. That's a big difference in price for two people using the same currency model (dollars). I suspect this is a big reason why Microsoft wants to get rid of points.
Corporate conspiracy aside, I don't see any actual changes besides the points will look like dollars. You'll still be able to get "Xbox Live Gift Cards" instead of "Xbox Live Points" and I'm guessing that Best Buy or your favored retailer will still have deals on points every so often.

Time will tell for sure but it looks to just be a name change; nothing more.
 

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I like points because you dont have to put a credit card on your account and get hacked by the wrong person. sure you could remove the card from the account every time you pay, but its tedious to put it on and back on. also the mind trick think that somebody was talking about is easy to solve. 16000 is 20 dollars half is 10 and 80 points is a dollar. wort wort wort.
 

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Johny_X2 said:
FINALLY some reasonably good news from Microsoft. Sure took them a while.
Hell yeah. I mean, removing DRM after consumer feedback, enabling indie self-publishing, including an extra headset and all that just doesn't count.
 

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TomWiley said:
Johny_X2 said:
FINALLY some reasonably good news from Microsoft. Sure took them a while.
Hell yeah. I mean, removing DRM after consumer feedback, enabling indie self-publishing, including an extra headset and all that just doesn't count.
Backpedalling from bad news doesn't count :D
 

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Johny_X2 said:
TomWiley said:
Johny_X2 said:
FINALLY some reasonably good news from Microsoft. Sure took them a while.
Hell yeah. I mean, removing DRM after consumer feedback, enabling indie self-publishing, including an extra headset and all that just doesn't count.
Backpedalling from bad news doesn't count :D
If anything, it counts more