So disregarding their own political identity and statements to lump them in with their killers is... respect?Saying that doesn't make it so. It is just an unfounded accusation.
So disregarding their own political identity and statements to lump them in with their killers is... respect?Saying that doesn't make it so. It is just an unfounded accusation.
But you do. You're the moderate left arguing against communists as we speak.I see parallels all right, but not the same ones you do.
Your Dad is 100% right. It reminds me of what is going on with Antifa right now, Trump is trying to target them and scapegoat them and give these right wing militia nut jobs a boogyman. Some common enemy to unite against, to take their hate out on. Giving them a REASON to consolidate power to fight.Ok, so I'm going to share some first hand experience.
I don't share that much of my family. I don't like that many people knowing about it. I've been here for over a decade, so I guess it's time for another tidbit about my family.
So. My Father and Mother met in at a Bronx Black Panther meeting in the seventies. My dad still has a picture of him and my mother at a meeting with the giant Afros.
My dad told me the stories. The sit-ins, the protests, some of the things he did in school. And while he was super proud of it, he saw that I was getting enchanted. He then closed the book and said that it was the stupidest thing he ever did.
I couldn't understand it. To me, my father was a real life Captain America. My Mother, Misty Knight. They went out and fought for their rights. I said as much, and do you know what he told me?
"Yeah, we got some scraps. But what we actually did was serve as the face of the Upstarts that dared to challenge society as a whole and got targeted by the local government."
They made it easier for the government to know where to strike. Who to follow and to see who they were talking to in fears that they were spreading the movement to others.
A show of solidary can always be swung as the evil menace. An evil menace that is trying to take the peace of mind of those not completely clued into what the show of Solidary is for.
Likeminded individuals who nationwide say that it's good that women have complete autonomy over their body, that every citizen deserves the same treatment no matter their religion or melanin count, and that taxes should go as much to improving the way of life for our fellow citizens and not just in the pockets of the politicians who are selling us out to companies... well, that's just the way of the times.
Neo Black Panther Party, Qanon, Green Party, The Young Republicans.... That's a group. They have a charter. They have agenda. It's time to prejudge.
No, the parallel I do see is that Trump is encouraging and feeding off the far right getting them all riled up and terrified of the Minorities destroying their way of life, burning down their suburbs, and they must rise up and defend them homes, their lives from these "Minorities" that mean to kill them in their sleep.. yea. I hear him LOUD and Clear.But you do. You're the moderate left arguing against communists as we speak.
Where do their killers sit on that chart? Oh yea..So disregarding their own political identity and statements to lump them in with their killers is... respect?
Well LBJ would’ve been on the left half of it...Where do their killers sit on that chart? Oh yea..
It isn't lumping them in with their killers, because they do not sit at the same points on the chart. DOH!
I am a progressive, I agree with the Green New Deal. I agree with Medicare for all, I agree with Universal Basic Income, I am also realistic in what we can get passed and know that baby steps are better than nothing.But you do. You're the moderate left arguing against communists as we speak.
You can't scare quotes "minorities" and pretend that was said anywhere in there.No, the parallel I do see is that Trump is encouraging and feeding off the far right getting them all riled up and terrified of the Minorities destroying their way of life, burning down their suburbs, and they must rise up and defend them homes, their lives from these "Minorities" that mean to kill them in their sleep.. yea. I hear him LOUD and Clear.
Yea but not all the way over there with " the most Liberal" along with Warren and Sanders.Well LBJ would’ve been on the left half of it...
Harris is all the way over thereYea but not all the way over there with " the most Liberal" along with Warren and Sanders.
You want me to name them? Mexican refugees, Muslims, BLM, Hell he has riled up militias chanting " the Jews will not replace us" in the streets and arming up to take out the " urban Liberals" over the green new deal.. Please.. You know as well as I do WHO " his targets are.You can't scare quotes "minorities" and pretend that was said anywhere in there.
Sanders is farther right primarily due to his stance on gun control. Kamela is further left due to her stand on gun control.Harris is all the way over there
What, may I ask, did the Panthers think about gun control?Sanders is farther right primarily due to his stance on gun control.
They would be over there with Sanders. He is still over there on the Liberal side even though Sanders opposes Gun control too.What, may I ask, did the Panthers think about gun control?
So is your argument that Elizabeth Warren is more left-wing than the Panthers?They would be over there with Sanders.
Yes.So is your argument that Elizabeth Warren is more left-wing than the Panthers?
And Kamala Harris as well?Yes.
No Harris has gone back and forth on a few stances and her law enforcement stance I think should take her farther right than she is on that chart. I don't think she is really placed where she needs to be.And Kamala Harris as well?
Well. I’m done in any case. Nice that you don’t put the cop ahead of them I guess.No Harris has gone back and forth on a few stances and her law enforcement stance I think should take her farther right than she is on that chart. I don't think she is really placed where she needs to be.
Of course I don't. I don't think the chart takes into account ENOUGH information that would impact their position that it should. I also don't think people give Warren enough credit tbh, She was the one who was willing to literally take the wealthy's accumulated wealth and use that to support the programs for the poor and very few are willing to go that far to redistribute wealth. She was willing to do more for the people than just about any other candidate I can think of, thus why they tried to call her a "dirtyWell. I’m done in any case. Nice that you don’t put the cop ahead of them I guess.