Minecraft Redstone Problem, MC forums aren't helping.

[AT God]

I know that this should be put on the MC forums but for some reason they aren't responding. Im going to copy and paste my post over on their forums.

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I have no experience with redstone, I cannot do anything other than link things on the same plane, so I am having trouble getting a nice looking double door to work. I've watched a bunch of tutorials but none help me do what I want.

I want to have the doors open for a short time, both close automatically after a few moments, the time it takes a button to reset without any repeaters. 1 Button on each side to open both doors.

Info:
Need both doors to open for as long as a button takes.
Built in a pit to collect eggs, so I cannot have the door toggle.
Pit is 2 blocks down from regular land, with nothing underneath to prevent me from wiring underneath.
If buttons on both sides cannot be done, I will settle for pressure plates on one side and a button on the side the chickens will be in, don't want them triggering the plates.
If using plates, must be infront of each door, dont want to have to aim to one.
No surface wiring.

This is a picture of what I would like to have, but the buttons can be anywhere near each side, I can push the stairs back if i need more room, underneath the lower level can be manipulated, just want the surface to be untouched.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/20111006183558.png/

If this is not possible, I will figure something else out, I know there are other ways of making a pit but I want mine to look like this if possible.
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I don't think this is impossible, I would really like to get some help, thanks.

 

[EHKOS]

Redstone is a *****. My glass elevator doors won't open either.

 

[AT God]

So does anyone know how to make doors open using a button? Seems like a simple operation.

 

[latiasracer]

I Did try this, but to no avail. I Just gave up and used wooden doors

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

Well, i can't help you with that...
But i can give a mod recommendation that will make redstone a hell of a lot easier to use.
It's been on the Yogscast recently... something like the technic pack...
(it is out of date, so you'll have to wait or download the old version)

Basically you get redstone wires that can go up walls, panels of most material which basically means you can make a hollow block to put a wire in, and different colour wires so you can have two circuits next to each other without them joining.


Hope i've provided some help.

 

[AT God]

Thanks guys, I am beginning to think the stupid on/off issue with double doors cant be dealt with using buttons, which just seems rediculous since it can be done with pressure plates, the reason I want buttons is because they have a short activation period and this door is meant to keep chickens locked up.

Thanks for the tip sizzle, if I ever try to do something with redstone again I might give that a shot, I hate the stupid torch underblock way of sending power up, if you know a mod that fixes the double door on off reverse I'd love to have it.

 

[Flyingchciken93]

This video is quite long but its very easy to follow and i think its what your looking for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfQIXQ0Augw

 

[DEAD34345]

It's easy, you just need an OR gate linked to both of the doors and both of the buttons. I would write an ASCII diagram, but for some reason the formatting keeps going weird.

Anyway, you link both of the buttons to the OR gate (they are the inputs), then you link the output of the OR gate to the 2 doors.

Spoiler: This diagram shows you what an OR gate looks like in redstone, ignore the other gate diagrams.

Edit: Oh, and you might have to use a NOT just before one of the 2 doors as well, (sorry, forgot about the stupid way double doors work in Minecraft).

 

[th155]

So you want one button to open both of the doors? I don't know how to explain how to do it, but i know it works, the main entrance into my "base" is it.

(hint: redstone torches in the block 2 blocks below the door)

captcha: omsättning? Seriously? I think that one is actually easier for a computer to solve than a human...

 

[Platypusbill101]

So you want one button to open both of the doors? I don't know how to explain how to do it, but i know it works, the main entrance into my "base" is it.

(hint: redstone torches in the block 2 blocks below the door)

captcha: omsättning? Seriously? I think that one is actually easier for a computer to solve than a human...

That is Swedish.

 

[Tharwen]

I've just spent about 10 minutes trying and I've decided that it's impossible (at least on the setup in your screenshot) without exposing the wiring, which looks horrible.

 

[newwiseman]

I would use a pressure plate to activate the door and avoid the button, less wiring.

 

[this account is gay]

Put one of the doors a little inside the pit, but facing the entrance. Then place a button, and it should open both doors.

 

[ShindoL Shill]

its elementary my dear Watson.
get the Redpower mod (or something like that).
it has logic gates and timers and all the jazzamatazz you'll ever need. it can also go up walls.

Well, i can't help you with that...
But i can give a mod recommendation that will make redstone a hell of a lot easier to use.
It's been on the Yogscast recently... something like the technic pack...
(it is out of date, so you'll have to wait or download the old version)

Basically you get redstone wires that can go up walls, panels of most material which basically means you can make a hollow block to put a wire in, and different colour wires so you can have two circuits next to each other without them joining.


Hope i've provided some help.

actually Monty, Redpower (thats what you're thinking of) is a separate mod. its been updated to 1.8.1.

 

[Panzervaughn]

Try searching youtube, i think i recall seeing a tutorial on doing exactly this.

 

[DasDestroyer]

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I don't think it is possible to make all of the redstone hidden in that layout, but if you move both buttons down a block, you can do this:

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Here are your two blocks with buttons

Place redstone directly under both

Dig one block down in these places like this

Fill the long trench with redstone

Put a redstone torch in the other hole, and make sure that it is hanging off of the wall that has redstone going into it

Above that torch and the adjacent block put down two blocks that will hold your doors

Make sure to put a frame for your doors before actually putting the doors down or everything will be even more messed up

Put the doors down

Profit!

 

[Vicarious Vangaurd]

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OP Solving your problem.
Okay so basically set it up like lets say this is your area

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(dashes are the doors and brackets are the blocks they sit on and p is pressure plates. It should work like that) Look at pictures for detail.

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[CCountZero]

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As has been stated before, getting the wire to each door is easy, but if the button positions can't be changed, it can't be done without mods.

However, if you leave me free reign to position the toggle buttons within reach of the doors, I can, if all else fails, create the redstone system for you, provided you upload your map somewhere for me to download.

If you know how to use MCedit or a similliar program, I could also make do with an upload of the chicken pit itself, for you to copy-paste into your world after the work is done.

The necessary redstone system really is quite simple, and wouldn't take more than a minute or two to make for someone who's done so before

 

[Dalek Caan]

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What version of Minecraft are you using?

 

[AT God]

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If you could do that for me that would be great, if the buttons can be near the door I would be fine with that, I am amazed that this would be so complex. A map file would be great since I don't know how do to anything complex or what ever.

Thanks for all the help everyone.