Misconceptions about PC gaming.
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I didn't list it because its pretty much irrelevant. Its not an official Nvidia designed card and is made in rather small quantities by only a couple of manufacturers. Couple that with the fact that it's performance is identical to the 512mb model in all but the most rare of circumstances and its not even worth mentioning. The GT generally doesn't have enough juice to drive a game in situations where 512mb isn't enough.Decoy Doctorpus said:
I also didn't include the GS because it was low volume and its unlikely anyone would run across one.
"...ports tend to be badly programmed and badly optimized. I don't think I've ever seen a worse one than Resident Evil 4."
I wholeheartedly concur. I was especially amazed at the shabbiness when I got to a 'quicktime' cutscene and the on-screen prompts were telling me to 'press triangle to not die... now press square to not die' and I was like "I dont have a TRIANGLE BUTTON!!". I pretty much just took it as a sign that the game should be traded in immediately. Now whenever I read anything about how sweet RE4 is, my heart breaks just a little bit more.
I wholeheartedly concur. I was especially amazed at the shabbiness when I got to a 'quicktime' cutscene and the on-screen prompts were telling me to 'press triangle to not die... now press square to not die' and I was like "I dont have a TRIANGLE BUTTON!!". I pretty much just took it as a sign that the game should be traded in immediately. Now whenever I read anything about how sweet RE4 is, my heart breaks just a little bit more.
I recently spent 530 GBP on all the components, peripherals etc. and it runs Crysis on Highest at 1024x1280 resolution at around 30-35 FPS, so no, a gaming PC does not have to be 2000 pounds in the slightest. If I had used an older monitor (impossible for me as I was on a laptop) then that would have been 400 GPB...dunno how much that is in Aussie Dollars but I can tell you I HAVE to turn the graphics up as high as possible, lest the frame-rate go so high that the game goes out of sync with it's own audio before crashing - Age of Conan had 200 FPS on high, so I had to completely max out the graphics so it would run - THAT'S a gaming PC 
The downside is they can be a real ***** to build if the case is a bit cramped as mine was, and I did have to work out a few kinks when installing software, but it was a quarter of the price Dell wanted for their equivalent.
Also, does the Processor come with any form of heatsink? I've never trusted cases alone to cool a PC myself.
The downside is they can be a real ***** to build if the case is a bit cramped as mine was, and I did have to work out a few kinks when installing software, but it was a quarter of the price Dell wanted for their equivalent.
I may have missed it, but where's the Monitor? I.e. potentially the most expensive purchase for a custom PC? Otherwise yes you have a computer but not one you can use, unless you plan on hooking it up to a TV with a VGA cable or something.smallharmlesskitten said:
Also, does the Processor come with any form of heatsink? I've never trusted cases alone to cool a PC myself.
Crysis can be run on high with a single core of about 2.5 - of course, it'll eat up the RAM like you wouldn't believe, but as long as the rest of the computer is up to it then 2.5 GHz should be fine, and the recent patch implemented dual cores, so yeah, a duo would improve things as well.Bulletinmybrain said:
That may be more to do with the fact that the Mass Effect port is a load of arse...seriously, Crysis runs better than that poorly coded piece of crap, Bioware screwed up real bad with the PC version.Alex_P said:
sry, italized the wrong parts, what I meant to say was that he tried to explain the diversity of the PC platform by naming ONE other genre... I mean c'mon, there's so much more right?
I swear to god I heard this today from some random in a local games shop.
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This really cant be a common misconception can it!?
EDIT: Also Halo was ported, Metal Gear Solid 1+2 was ported with rumours of the third as well, anything that isn't being ported will be emulated in about ten years anyway, look at PSX emulators today.
That is another thing, I know people who assume PC's are less powerful than many consoles because they struggle to emulate the last generation (PS2/XBOX). We all know this is crap but I figured I'd mention it.
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I asked the guy what he meant by HD and his response was High Definition, at which point I walked out before I slapped him around the face.
This really cant be a common misconception can it!?
EDIT: Also Halo was ported, Metal Gear Solid 1+2 was ported with rumours of the third as well, anything that isn't being ported will be emulated in about ten years anyway, look at PSX emulators today.
That is another thing, I know people who assume PC's are less powerful than many consoles because they struggle to emulate the last generation (PS2/XBOX). We all know this is crap but I figured I'd mention it.
Here's a link to Gamespots 100 reasons to hate the PC (also available in PS3, 360, and Nintendo Flavors. Most likely posted here also but just incase you missed it)
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/100-reasons-fanboys-hate-pc-gaming/a-2008032794526707038
And if you "PC-Tards" can't just laugh with that, they you can't call yourself a gaming and instead just save us the trouble and call yourself a "PC-Tard".
I laugh at people who say that PC gaming graphics are technically better than Console graphics because those are the exact same people who say that graphics don't make the game who are the exact same people who say that PS3 graphics are technically better than the 360's graphics and so on and so forth.
Infact "graphical ignorance" is #23 which really ticks me off when I see people say that PC graphics are better than Console graphics (technically). Personally, in all the PC graphics i've seen, PC graphics look to jagged and boxy.
One thing i'd like to comment about the PC price arguing, I do agree that PCs can be un/in-expensive but it's also a case of "PC-in-general" ignorance. If you're an average joe who is just now deciding to get into PC gaming and you go to a store, what do you think the salesperson is going to try and sell to you? The "better" $100 device or the "more proffitable thing to sell" device of $400? I think that's where the stereotype of PC's being expensive is from because honestly, if you asked me to make an amazing PC Rig i'd probably buy the more expensive stuff to build it with and barely look into what is better and such both from laziness and ignorance of PCs in general (ironically my father makes computer chips and the like)
I still prefer consoles
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/100-reasons-fanboys-hate-pc-gaming/a-2008032794526707038
And if you "PC-Tards" can't just laugh with that, they you can't call yourself a gaming and instead just save us the trouble and call yourself a "PC-Tard".
I laugh at people who say that PC gaming graphics are technically better than Console graphics because those are the exact same people who say that graphics don't make the game who are the exact same people who say that PS3 graphics are technically better than the 360's graphics and so on and so forth.
Infact "graphical ignorance" is #23 which really ticks me off when I see people say that PC graphics are better than Console graphics (technically). Personally, in all the PC graphics i've seen, PC graphics look to jagged and boxy.
One thing i'd like to comment about the PC price arguing, I do agree that PCs can be un/in-expensive but it's also a case of "PC-in-general" ignorance. If you're an average joe who is just now deciding to get into PC gaming and you go to a store, what do you think the salesperson is going to try and sell to you? The "better" $100 device or the "more proffitable thing to sell" device of $400? I think that's where the stereotype of PC's being expensive is from because honestly, if you asked me to make an amazing PC Rig i'd probably buy the more expensive stuff to build it with and barely look into what is better and such both from laziness and ignorance of PCs in general (ironically my father makes computer chips and the like)
I still prefer consoles
Jaggy and boxy? Probably not using AA, or the higher-resolution monitors we have had for the last 3-5 years pics out more faults.Jumplion said:
I have to admit I don't see why graphics really comes into play with the PC vrs Console thing. I suppose the main argument in PC's favour is that consoles only have the graphics they have because every game is tailored specifically for that hardware, whereas PC games have to fit a generic profile.
Unfortunatly consoles will age with time when it comes to their games as eventually developers won't be able to use much more of the hardware capabilities. Whereas with PC's, games will advance graphically much quicker, until the 8th generation arrives and equals it.
I suppose what I am rabbiting on about is that the advancement of graphics on PC is more of a continual upward slope, whereas with consoles its a shallow upward slope with a jump up every new generation to where ever PC graphics are currently. (I'll make a chart if people ask for it).
Ultimately it doesn't come down to graphics it comes down to gameplay, at the moment there is nothing outside of GTAIV I want for console, thus I am not getting one (GTA4 will be on PC eventually). However gameplay is something rare these days.
Now back on topic!
Well, i don't know if any of the PCs i've seen use AA (whatever that is, please explain) but i'm not kidding when i say that in every PC game (except Crysis) that i've ever seen no matter what the rig or game the graphics to me look too straight and jagged.Theo Samaritan said:
But that's my opinion, unfortunately "PC-tards" will always answer a "Console-tard" who says taht PC gaming is dieing with statements of how Pc gaming has better graphics than PS3 technically and then say "Graphics don't make the game it's the gamplay!".
God damn hipocrites. Not that all of them are.
AA stands for Anti- Ailiasing. Basically, a screen is made up of squares of colour, the question is, how do you make a circle out of squares? AA does that by dividing up certain squares into triangles (I think). This has the effect of making the edges appear smoother.Jumplion said:
Consoles do it as well, but it's less noticable because PC users tend to use higher resolution screens. Ergo more squares to cut up, so it appears jaggier.
Although I may be wrong.
And it's fine, maybe this should be the 'learn about PCs thread'?Jumplion said:
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