Misconceptions about PC gaming.
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You know, I agree with your statements, but for me, I have all but given up on PC gaming. I should say, new PC games. I have an older computer and will not be upgrading until the new year. I think if I took Crysis anywhere near it, it would scream and start to smoke. Having said that, I sill use my computer for my older PC games that are still awesome. When I was younger, I was PC all the way, but with the curent gen of consoles, I just lost interest. I simply had the choice, upgrade my PC (for the only reason of gaming, the PC works just fine) or get a console. I chose console. Having said that, There are games I have played on console that I would like to play on PC (C&C 3 for one).
I guess for me (being older may be the factor) my PC is for work and finances and for playing all my "legally" downloaded music in the house. I don't see it as a gaming device anymore. When I upgrade next year, gaming will not be a thought. Also, computers piss me off to much. I deal with them at work all the time and they crash (because I am running programs on my work laptop that a top of the line desktop would strugle with) and agravate me. I just like to get away from the keyboard and mouse and grab a controler. What do the rest of you 30+ gamers think? Is it an age thing?
I guess for me (being older may be the factor) my PC is for work and finances and for playing all my "legally" downloaded music in the house. I don't see it as a gaming device anymore. When I upgrade next year, gaming will not be a thought. Also, computers piss me off to much. I deal with them at work all the time and they crash (because I am running programs on my work laptop that a top of the line desktop would strugle with) and agravate me. I just like to get away from the keyboard and mouse and grab a controler. What do the rest of you 30+ gamers think? Is it an age thing?
I still love PC gaming, but I will say that one of the misconceptions is that...
it is inherently better than Console Gaming.
Sorry PC gamers, your just ego tripping if you think this is true, PC does somethings better (FPS, RTS, God Games, MMO's), Consoles do some things better (Action/Adventure, Platformers, Racing Games, Fighting Games).
As well with consoles you already have the optimal equipment with which to play your game, it all comes prebuilt for you, no fuss, no muss... and no fans breaking at inopportune times.
it is inherently better than Console Gaming.
Sorry PC gamers, your just ego tripping if you think this is true, PC does somethings better (FPS, RTS, God Games, MMO's), Consoles do some things better (Action/Adventure, Platformers, Racing Games, Fighting Games).
As well with consoles you already have the optimal equipment with which to play your game, it all comes prebuilt for you, no fuss, no muss... and no fans breaking at inopportune times.
It's easier to plug a console-style controller into a PC than to plug your keyboard and mouse into a console, though. Or, at the very least, it's more common.PedroSteckecilo said:
The main thing is that not all platformers and action/adventure games get released on PC. And there are like no PC fighting games whatsoever.
-- Alex
There is if you're into doujin fighting games like Melty Blood, Big Bang Beat or Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.Alex_P said:
Some of those are pretty nice and come with a competent online play mode.
What i get from this board is that PC gamers are into technology as much as they are into gaming. I see a lot of people here who are aparently very gifted when it comes to computer tech., you guys know computers and what gets them running; but you also enjoy the hassle and the thrill of putting these machines together and messing around to fix them when a tech. problem occurs. That, to me, is where the main difference lies between PC and console gamers. When I got my first PC (one with a 486- 33 Mhz processor) I learned the little I know of PC's trying to get the games I got my hands on to run. Nowadays I mainly use my PC for work (and it's a good rig actually). I mean I feel I have enough gaming consoles in my household (360, Wii, PSP, DS) and I get my gaming fix out of them. I know I would feel different if I where interested in computer engeneering, but being an Architect I just don't have the drive to put a gaming PC together much less getting around settings and technicalities when everything is running.
Just pretend your a computer architect.laikenf said:
There is a practical side to PC building as well. You not only learn about the computer, but you save a butt load of money. Becoming self sufficient means ditching costly repairs like Geek Squad or never again dealing with foreign tech support offered by most major PC manufacturers.
It's give and take.
PS: The Escapist should get a folding team together
I actually lumped Action Adventure into Console because I dislike using the keyboard for these sort of games (ex. Psychonauts on PC) and much prefer a console controller where everything is at my fingertips.Alex_P said:
Because that is largely down to personal preference, besides, you can't really compare PCs and consoles, they're a whole different kettle of fish.HBrutusH said:
So.. back on topic.
So that all 4 of the people on here who use it can compete?TheKbob said:PS: The Escapist should get a folding team together
Seriously, I don't think there are enough people here to make that a fruitful endevour, anyone care to prove me wrong?
Well, you can work around the keyboard issue as long as the game supports controller peripherals somehow. One nice thing about all those X-Box 360 ports sold under the "Games for Windows" line is that a lot of them let you use game controllers. It's harder to work around just not having the games released on your platform at all.PedroSteckecilo said:
-- Alex
Caveat to my "general-purpose" spiel above:
Every modern console is just a computer on the inside, too. So you can also turn an X-Box or PS2/3 (not sure about how easy it is to break the 360) into a machine that you can use for a variety of functions. You just have to mess with the OS. This takes some technical saavy and tinkering, though.
I think it's pretty easy to get Linux onto PS2 and PS3, as long as you're willing to pay for a specialized CD. You can make a nice cheap cluster out of PS3s... well, as long as your applications mostly use the CPU, at least: the PS3 doesn't have that much RAM.
On original X-Box, you had to get a copy of James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire. You're probably thinking "What the fuck?" That's because MS didn't really design the X-Box to be moddable, but a flaw in the Agent Under Fire save-game system lets you save arbitrary data to the part of your hard drive that holds the OS. I think you usually end up having to mod the hard drive, too.
-- Alex
Every modern console is just a computer on the inside, too. So you can also turn an X-Box or PS2/3 (not sure about how easy it is to break the 360) into a machine that you can use for a variety of functions. You just have to mess with the OS. This takes some technical saavy and tinkering, though.
I think it's pretty easy to get Linux onto PS2 and PS3, as long as you're willing to pay for a specialized CD. You can make a nice cheap cluster out of PS3s... well, as long as your applications mostly use the CPU, at least: the PS3 doesn't have that much RAM.
On original X-Box, you had to get a copy of James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire. You're probably thinking "What the fuck?" That's because MS didn't really design the X-Box to be moddable, but a flaw in the Agent Under Fire save-game system lets you save arbitrary data to the part of your hard drive that holds the OS. I think you usually end up having to mod the hard drive, too.
-- Alex
When I read this thread, I get feeling that 90% of you are running high-end PC:s. But I´m sure that is far from the truth. Most of you spend your whole PC life somewhere in mid range, never being able to experience games the way their were imagined to be displayed, spending hours overclocking, tweaking graphic setting, benchmarking, reading hardware reviews and doing research. It is too much work just to make your graphics more fluid, so that you can play games that look very clean and sterile.
I disagree with PC being cheaper alternative, since PC nerds lack ability to avoid constantly upgrading their rigs. And it is not a question about buying equipment every 2-3 years, they just cant resist upgrading at least once every 6 months. I have been down that road, it takes one to know one. Now if you account for all those costs (incl. hours spend maintaining pc) throughout PC:s life cycle, you end up spending more money while also spending less hours playing games.
I disagree with PC being cheaper alternative, since PC nerds lack ability to avoid constantly upgrading their rigs. And it is not a question about buying equipment every 2-3 years, they just cant resist upgrading at least once every 6 months. I have been down that road, it takes one to know one. Now if you account for all those costs (incl. hours spend maintaining pc) throughout PC:s life cycle, you end up spending more money while also spending less hours playing games.
Isn't that good right? Its kinda like cars you spend money getting a half-decent one and then you keep tweaking it as you get time and money until its a well oiled machine. You get a sense of accomplishment you know?Regga_Overallt said:
I think I failed to state one of my points about PC gaming being expensive, but I'll try again.
For all the people who know that PC gaming can be cheap (all the "PC-tards" saying that they can make a high end PC under 350 euros) and that can be true.
What about the average consumer? What the hell do they know about computers?
And example of this would be a time I went to ye' olde' game shoppe and I wanted to get the Sims 2 (I lost the serial number for the original >_> yet another reason to hate PC gaming) and when I picked the box up I almost didn't see the PC requirements for the game. Of course, it's a relatively easy game to put on your PC but because i had no fucking clue what the hell my PC system was I put it back down and just went back to browsing.
This happens with all the Pc gamins I pick up, I'm afraid that when I buy the game my PC wont be able to run it. I do not want to buy a $500 processor chip and find out that it wasn't the right model for me to use. And DON'T SAY "Well, you could easily buy blah blah blah blah under 300 blah blah blah" because this is what the average consumer would do. The average consumer is an American Fatass (stereotype, I know, but try to work with me here) who doesn't know alot about alot.
To all you "PC-tards" out there, stop being so dumbfounded when someone says that "PC gaming is too expensive!" or "PC gaming is to complicated!" and calling them "Console-Tards" because that's the average consumer talk. We have no idea what the hell we need to do, all you "proffesional" PC men know what you're doing but everyone else don't know and they don't want to do the research and do all the work before they even get the damn parts.
That being said, I really wish I had a better PC to play Spore, if not the Spore Creature Creator because my damn computer didn't install it for some reason ;
For all the people who know that PC gaming can be cheap (all the "PC-tards" saying that they can make a high end PC under 350 euros) and that can be true.
What about the average consumer? What the hell do they know about computers?
And example of this would be a time I went to ye' olde' game shoppe and I wanted to get the Sims 2 (I lost the serial number for the original >_> yet another reason to hate PC gaming) and when I picked the box up I almost didn't see the PC requirements for the game. Of course, it's a relatively easy game to put on your PC but because i had no fucking clue what the hell my PC system was I put it back down and just went back to browsing.
This happens with all the Pc gamins I pick up, I'm afraid that when I buy the game my PC wont be able to run it. I do not want to buy a $500 processor chip and find out that it wasn't the right model for me to use. And DON'T SAY "Well, you could easily buy blah blah blah blah under 300 blah blah blah" because this is what the average consumer would do. The average consumer is an American Fatass (stereotype, I know, but try to work with me here) who doesn't know alot about alot.
To all you "PC-tards" out there, stop being so dumbfounded when someone says that "PC gaming is too expensive!" or "PC gaming is to complicated!" and calling them "Console-Tards" because that's the average consumer talk. We have no idea what the hell we need to do, all you "proffesional" PC men know what you're doing but everyone else don't know and they don't want to do the research and do all the work before they even get the damn parts.
That being said, I really wish I had a better PC to play Spore, if not the Spore Creature Creator because my damn computer didn't install it for some reason ;
Wait a second. We're expected to agree with the fact pc's are expensive because the consumer is retarded?Jumplion said:
Basically, but not expensive, complicated and, depending on what the purchase is, expesive as the average consumer isn't as smart as you "PC-ta..." I mean "PC-Gods". Stop acting so surprised and appaled when people say these "PC expensive@ PC complicated!" because PC gaming can be expensive and complicated. Sure, Console gaming can be expensive, but it isn't nearly as complicated.Decoy Doctorpus said:
Even you "PC-tards/Gods" have to admit, PC gaming can be burdensome. Don't any of you have stories about how you first started getting into PC gaming and how you had to make your PC gaming rig awesome? And struggles at all? Or anything else that make it even a little bit hard to mke that awesome gaming rig? Or did you just magically cojur up a PC rig?
First off. Quite with the 'tards/gods' thing. It's old already.
Secondly, yeah, you're right. Building a pc is slightly more complex than say, plugging in a ps3, but I personally think, in this day and age where many people's jobs and industries are ependant on personal computers, that people should have a basic knowledge of how they work and what the parts do. It isn't rocket science. Anyone who can change a fuse can build a pc, especially considering that today's computer parts are designed with quick assembly and disassembly in mind.
Secondly, yeah, you're right. Building a pc is slightly more complex than say, plugging in a ps3, but I personally think, in this day and age where many people's jobs and industries are ependant on personal computers, that people should have a basic knowledge of how they work and what the parts do. It isn't rocket science. Anyone who can change a fuse can build a pc, especially considering that today's computer parts are designed with quick assembly and disassembly in mind.
There is such a thing as learning how to build a computer or learning computer terms if you are so inclined or have the push to want to. I've never known much about computers but I want to build my own computer, I've been researching where all the bits go, what each part of a computer does etc. Building and maintaining a computer is just another of lifes challenges, going slightly off tangent here but if you approach something with the mindset that it's only reserved for certain "PC-Tards" then of course there's going to be a negative experience, but you actively and positively put yourself out there to do well then you will do well. I don't expect my computer to work right off the bat, I will most likely spend days and nights fixing bugs and the like but you know what? When I finally get it up and running and play my first game on it, the sense of accomplishment that I completed something like this will be immense.Jumplion said:
Every PC owner at one time was an "average consumer", they didn't know much about computers, but what did they do? They learnt that's what.
Everyone has the chance to build a computer(money permitted of course)it's just that most people(like yourself)choose not to because it's either too hard or you don't want to do any work towards it, nothing worth having in life comes easily, you have to work for it, and that's what I intend to do, there's no such word as "can't" in my vocab(within reason if you're going to be facetious).
EDIT: I don't know how to change a fuse o.0
*asks Dad*
*shows WlknCntrdiction how to change a fuse*
Ok, now I know