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The Crusaders finally got their cutie marks
Huh, really? *Googles*

Those are... incredibly disappointing. Very cluttered and ugly, 3 separate symbols mashed on top of each other. And what's with the red white and blue, were they actually American cutie mark crusaders the whole time? Not only that but getting a cutie mark based on your group of friends in middle school just seems so wrong. Like what about when they have a big argument, split up, move to different towns, and don't talk to each other for 20 years? I bet having a cutie mark crusader cutie mark will feel pretty silly then!

Also does everypony get a big light show when they get their cutie mark? Or is that something special for main characters?
Yeah, that was one of the big disappointing things the show did. I was not a fan of how they got their marks or what they are, just boring. They have had others get light shows with them, but what they did for the cmc, the hovering light show, that was different and annoying. The show was like "see, we finally gave them marks wink wink nudge nudge." I was really hoping they would have like Sweetie Belle and maybe Scootaloo get their marks but Applebloom didn't till later in the season so they had to deal with growing up at different rates.
 

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After learning about the right wing messages of the show, I'm really not too eager to break my personal embargo of the franchise. I fancy the movie will be even less subtle.
 

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After learning about the right wing messages of the show, I'm really not too eager to break my personal embargo of the franchise. I fancy the movie will be even less subtle.
... I can only assume you mean the weird lesson of one of the earlier episodes with Pinkie Pie that was intended to mean faith in your friends but ended up sounding much more like sometimes you need faith in general.
 

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Drathnoxis said:
And what's with the red white and blue, were they actually American cutie mark crusaders the whole time?
I don't think the colours in themselves symbolize anything, it's more the fact that they're identical.

Speaking of which:

Drathnoxis said:
Not only that but getting a cutie mark based on your group of friends in middle school just seems so wrong. Like what about when they have a big argument, split up, move to different towns, and don't talk to each other for 20 years? I bet having a cutie mark crusader cutie mark will feel pretty silly then!
I see what you're getting at, but I don't think the marks are saying that "they're the same because they're friends," they're the same because their purpose in life/special talent is to help other ponies find their cutie marks (which is what they do as of season 6), and they work best as a group. If they split up, sure, but so far no character in the show has started a career and changed it per se. It's more or less fantasy/cartoon logic.

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Also does everypony get a big light show when they get their cutie mark? Or is that something special for main characters?
I don't think so (does the sonic rainboom count?), but I feel it works. We've waited for this for five seasons, and from an in-universe standpoint, I get the sense of it having a lightshow because of a) 'repressed magic', that they've been waiting so long, it sort of bubbles out, similar to shaking a bottle, and b) that three marks are gained at the same time in the same place makes for a more impressive visual display.

Smithnikov said:
After learning about the right wing messages of the show,
Such...as...?
Worgen said:
Smithnikov said:
After learning about the right wing messages of the show, I'm really not too eager to break my personal embargo of the franchise. I fancy the movie will be even less subtle.
... I can only assume you mean the weird lesson of one of the earlier episodes with Pinkie Pie that was intended to mean faith in your friends but ended up sounding much more like sometimes you need faith in general.
The reaction to that episode confounded me - I never saw it as a statement on the need for religious faith. It struck me as more having faith in your friends, that even if they can't explain something, you can still take them at their word if they've earned your trust. No idea how people arrived at the conclusion that it was promoting religion. And even if it WAS promoting religion, so what? I'm irreligious, but I'm not going to demand that fiction remove religion from its setting to appease me.

Also, religion seems a bit of a moot issue in Equestria, since we have beings like Celestia and Luna, and phrases like "sweet Celestia!" or "for Celestia's sake," so...
 

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Hawki said:
Drathnoxis said:
And what's with the red white and blue, were they actually American cutie mark crusaders the whole time?
I don't think the colours in themselves symbolize anything, it's more the fact that they're identical.

Speaking of which:

Drathnoxis said:
Not only that but getting a cutie mark based on your group of friends in middle school just seems so wrong. Like what about when they have a big argument, split up, move to different towns, and don't talk to each other for 20 years? I bet having a cutie mark crusader cutie mark will feel pretty silly then!
I see what you're getting at, but I don't think the marks are saying that "they're the same because they're friends," they're the same because their purpose in life/special talent is to help other ponies find their cutie marks (which is what they do as of season 6), and they work best as a group. If they split up, sure, but so far no character in the show has started a career and changed it per se. It's more or less fantasy/cartoon logic.

Drathnoxis said:
Also does everypony get a big light show when they get their cutie mark? Or is that something special for main characters?
I don't think so (does the sonic rainboom count?), but I feel it works. We've waited for this for five seasons, and from an in-universe standpoint, I get the sense of it having a lightshow because of a) 'repressed magic', that they've been waiting so long, it sort of bubbles out, similar to shaking a bottle, and b) that three marks are gained at the same time in the same place makes for a more impressive visual display.

Smithnikov said:
After learning about the right wing messages of the show,
Such...as...?
Worgen said:
Smithnikov said:
After learning about the right wing messages of the show, I'm really not too eager to break my personal embargo of the franchise. I fancy the movie will be even less subtle.
... I can only assume you mean the weird lesson of one of the earlier episodes with Pinkie Pie that was intended to mean faith in your friends but ended up sounding much more like sometimes you need faith in general.
The reaction to that episode confounded me - I never saw it as a statement on the need for religious faith. It struck me as more having faith in your friends, that even if they can't explain something, you can still take them at their word if they've earned your trust. No idea how people arrived at the conclusion that it was promoting religion. And even if it WAS promoting religion, so what? I'm irreligious, but I'm not going to demand that fiction remove religion from its setting to appease me.

Also, religion seems a bit of a moot issue in Equestria, since we have beings like Celestia and Luna, and phrases like "sweet Celestia!" or "for Celestia's sake," so...
It's because of how the episode frames the lesson. Twilight tries to use science to explain the Pinkie sense but she can't. (after some pretty piss poor science) The lesson is
"I am happy to report that I now realize there are wonderful things in this world you just can't explain, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less true. It just means you have to choose to believe in them. And sometimes it takes a friend to show you the way."
That is really close to the argument that a lot of believers use here in the states, a lot of really obnoxious ones who make it their mission to convert people who don't believe in their god. I mean I liked the episode well enough, but its a garbage lesson with Twilight giving up understanding the sense way too easily.
 

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Such...as...?
I'll put it to you the way it was explained to me.

My Little Pony understand the importance of securing the boarder, especially in times of threats.
When canterlot was threatened in "A Canterlot Wedding" what did they do?
They set up a boarder using magic.
If Equestria was like modern Eurostan, they would have offered the changelings citizenship

And the Crystal Heart basically acts as a boarder which protects the Crystal Empire. Granted, it protects them from weather mostly, but it was the protective boarder from the Crystal Heart the killed King Sombra.

Once again, the day is saved, thanks to... boarder security, nationalism, and cultural identity.
(yay)
Applejack, being as traditionalist as she is, would obviously not like modern day progressives.

Rainbow Dash wants to be the best, and would not want some beta cucks trying to bring her down to make her "equal". I also doubt she's support such a weak foreign policy rather than dropping rainbombs on our enemies.

And Rarity, she's the most traditionally feminine of the mane 6 and she's a capitalist. This would draw the disdain from radfems and commies.

Twilight Sparkle is interesting in science and truth, so she wouldn't be having this 100 different gender shit.

Pinkie Pie loves to have fun and joke around. So this would put her at odds with the sensitive SJWs who seem to be devoid of humor and take everything as some form of offense.

And last but not least, Fluttershy wouldn't like them cause they're too violent. And she loves animals.
www.funnyjunk.com/channel/poli?
www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/?
Leftist groups like ANTIFA support using animal abuse to get back at Donald Trump.
Fluttershy, I believe, would tie these people up and burn them alive with gasoline, then put them out with a fire extinguisher, then burn them again.

For this, I believe the left has gone way too far the values and traditions of My Little Pony, and they must be stopped in Celestia's name
mynationalistpony.tumblr.com/p?
Now, I do admit I am citing a white nationalist blog, but it still presents a decent analysis of the current state of the West.
This compares the situation involving the European refugee crisis with the plight of the Crystal Ponies from Season 3 episode 1 and 2. There are notable similarities. Both the white europeans and the crystal ponies have lost their sense of patriotism and are at risk for dying out. They are living in fear of a great threat. The crystal ponies live in fear of King Sombra just as the European whites fear radical Islam. You can notice the effects of both situations produces similar sociological affects. The ponies of the Crystal Empire faced the same threat that Western civilization is currently facing, and like the Crystal ponies, we aren't fighting back.
"An Empire can only be preserved if its constituents all hold that Empire dear. A nation that refuses to acknowledge its own existence will soon fail to exist. Even more importantly, any fool who reasons his way into loving his nation can soon be reasoned out of it.
There is no love & unity within the West, and this why the West is dying. The 'love? modern society directs you to hold is a love of the foreign and alien, whilst a love of your own people is criminalised, slurred and spat on. You are a 'neo-Nazi? or a 'fascist? or a 'subhuman? if you dare to value your nearest and dearest most, and what is love but a difference of value?"

Now, how did Twilight Sparkle and her friends help reunite the Crystal Empire and defeat King Sombra? She used their tradition to reinvigorate the ponies with the love they need to restore their kingdom. In other words, nationalism. She restored the love they had in their country, their nation, and their tradition.
In the end, it was the nationalism in the hearts of the Crystal Ponies that defeated King Sombra. And similarly, that is the only thing that can save the west. Europe needs a right wing populist revolution against the radical left who wants to destroy them and the terrorists that threaten their safety. And the only thing that could produce such unity is a nationalist resurgence.

So obviously the solution for Europe is simple.... A SONG!!!

The Europeans need our help
Their nations will not last forever
I know we can do it, but we need to work together
We have to get this right, yes we have to make them see,
We can save the Europeans with thier history
You don't see gay marriage in Equestria, and that's cause they have family values.
LGBT ponies are probably tolerated in Equestria, but they don't usurp the traditions.
The reason Lyra and Bon Bon don't get married is because they respect Equestria's traditional values, so they live their life of decadence in private
Do you see any married gay couples in My Little Pony?
I thought not
So yea, fuck this show and it's right wing fellating.
 

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Well I'm excited for it. Planning to go see it on the day it comes out. Might have to go to a later showing though, as I'm kind of worried about the looks my friends and I will get when we show up with no kids of our own.
 

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Smithnikov said:
Hawki said:
Such...as...?
I'll put it to you the way it was explained to me.

My Little Pony understand the importance of securing the boarder, especially in times of threats.
When canterlot was threatened in "A Canterlot Wedding" what did they do?
They set up a boarder using magic.
If Equestria was like modern Eurostan, they would have offered the changelings citizenship

And the Crystal Heart basically acts as a boarder which protects the Crystal Empire. Granted, it protects them from weather mostly, but it was the protective boarder from the Crystal Heart the killed King Sombra.

Once again, the day is saved, thanks to... boarder security, nationalism, and cultural identity.
(yay)
Applejack, being as traditionalist as she is, would obviously not like modern day progressives.

Rainbow Dash wants to be the best, and would not want some beta cucks trying to bring her down to make her "equal". I also doubt she's support such a weak foreign policy rather than dropping rainbombs on our enemies.

And Rarity, she's the most traditionally feminine of the mane 6 and she's a capitalist. This would draw the disdain from radfems and commies.

Twilight Sparkle is interesting in science and truth, so she wouldn't be having this 100 different gender shit.

Pinkie Pie loves to have fun and joke around. So this would put her at odds with the sensitive SJWs who seem to be devoid of humor and take everything as some form of offense.

And last but not least, Fluttershy wouldn't like them cause they're too violent. And she loves animals.
www.funnyjunk.com/channel/poli?
www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/?
Leftist groups like ANTIFA support using animal abuse to get back at Donald Trump.
Fluttershy, I believe, would tie these people up and burn them alive with gasoline, then put them out with a fire extinguisher, then burn them again.

For this, I believe the left has gone way too far the values and traditions of My Little Pony, and they must be stopped in Celestia's name
mynationalistpony.tumblr.com/p?
Now, I do admit I am citing a white nationalist blog, but it still presents a decent analysis of the current state of the West.
This compares the situation involving the European refugee crisis with the plight of the Crystal Ponies from Season 3 episode 1 and 2. There are notable similarities. Both the white europeans and the crystal ponies have lost their sense of patriotism and are at risk for dying out. They are living in fear of a great threat. The crystal ponies live in fear of King Sombra just as the European whites fear radical Islam. You can notice the effects of both situations produces similar sociological affects. The ponies of the Crystal Empire faced the same threat that Western civilization is currently facing, and like the Crystal ponies, we aren't fighting back.
"An Empire can only be preserved if its constituents all hold that Empire dear. A nation that refuses to acknowledge its own existence will soon fail to exist. Even more importantly, any fool who reasons his way into loving his nation can soon be reasoned out of it.
There is no love & unity within the West, and this why the West is dying. The 'love? modern society directs you to hold is a love of the foreign and alien, whilst a love of your own people is criminalised, slurred and spat on. You are a 'neo-Nazi? or a 'fascist? or a 'subhuman? if you dare to value your nearest and dearest most, and what is love but a difference of value?"

Now, how did Twilight Sparkle and her friends help reunite the Crystal Empire and defeat King Sombra? She used their tradition to reinvigorate the ponies with the love they need to restore their kingdom. In other words, nationalism. She restored the love they had in their country, their nation, and their tradition.
In the end, it was the nationalism in the hearts of the Crystal Ponies that defeated King Sombra. And similarly, that is the only thing that can save the west. Europe needs a right wing populist revolution against the radical left who wants to destroy them and the terrorists that threaten their safety. And the only thing that could produce such unity is a nationalist resurgence.

So obviously the solution for Europe is simple.... A SONG!!!

The Europeans need our help
Their nations will not last forever
I know we can do it, but we need to work together
We have to get this right, yes we have to make them see,
We can save the Europeans with thier history
You don't see gay marriage in Equestria, and that's cause they have family values.
LGBT ponies are probably tolerated in Equestria, but they don't usurp the traditions.
The reason Lyra and Bon Bon don't get married is because they respect Equestria's traditional values, so they live their life of decadence in private
Do you see any married gay couples in My Little Pony?
I thought not
So yea, fuck this show and it's right wing fellating.
You're... you're kidding right? This is the internet so its hard to tell but you know thats all bullshit right. That is all the same kinda thing you can get from reading too hard into anything, its like saying Spongebob is a critical takedown of american foreign policy cause in that one episode he keeps breaking into Squidward's house and messing everything up before getting thrown out, obviously Squidward representing the middle east and Spongebob being the cia.

Anyway, Ill just tackle the two points that are somewhat coherent. The changeling thing and the lgbt thing. The changeling point doesn't work since changelings were welcomed into Equestria when they came as friends and not enemies. After having spike sing a song to convince everyone. They even tried to convince Chrysalis to join them and stop devouring love but she decided to take revenge instead.

The crystal heart thing wasn't so much about tradition as it was a magical mcguffin. It was more an appeal to nostalgia then tradition and it didn't work, not without something that really wasn't releated to tradition at all. They actually had to come together and put their unity and love into a magical artifact to defeat sombra. The tradition thing was more the mane6 trying something that didn't work at all.

Lyra and Bon Bon are lesbians in pretty much everything but name (since its a kids cartoon and that would literally get it banned in some places) but its pretty obvious they are more than just the "best of friends."
 

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Worgen said:
You're... you're kidding right? This is the internet so its hard to tell but you know thats all bullshit right. That is all the same kinda thing you can get from reading too hard into anything, its like saying Spongebob is a critical takedown of american foreign policy cause in that one episode he keeps breaking into Squidward's house and messing everything up before getting thrown out, obviously Squidward representing the middle east and Spongebob being the cia.

Anyway, Ill just tackle the two points that are somewhat coherent. The changeling thing and the lgbt thing. The changeling point doesn't work since changelings were welcomed into Equestria when they came as friends and not enemies. After having spike sing a song to convince everyone. They even tried to convince Chrysalis to join them and stop devouring love but she decided to take revenge instead.

The crystal heart thing wasn't so much about tradition as it was a magical mcguffin. It was more an appeal to nostalgia then tradition and it didn't work, not without something that really wasn't releated to tradition at all. They actually had to come together and put their unity and love into a magical artifact to defeat sombra. The tradition thing was more the mane6 trying something that didn't work at all.

Lyra and Bon Bon are lesbians in pretty much everything but name (since its a kids cartoon and that would literally get it banned in some places) but its pretty obvious they are more than just the "best of friends."
When will you stop deluding yourself? MLP is the Fox News of children's cartoons!
 

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Oh, what? They're still at it? Whoever is in charge of MLP is a poster-child for the Sunk Cost Fallacy.

The second season was crap (I gave up on it three quarters of the way through). That should have been the point of "We're cutting our losses. No more of this show."

Hollywood is run by idiots.
 

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Smithnikov said:
Hawki said:
Such...as...?
I'll put it to you the way it was explained to me.

My Little Pony understand the importance of securing the boarder, especially in times of threats.
When canterlot was threatened in "A Canterlot Wedding" what did they do?
They set up a boarder using magic.
If Equestria was like modern Eurostan, they would have offered the changelings citizenship

And the Crystal Heart basically acts as a boarder which protects the Crystal Empire. Granted, it protects them from weather mostly, but it was the protective boarder from the Crystal Heart the killed King Sombra.

Once again, the day is saved, thanks to... boarder security, nationalism, and cultural identity.
(yay)
Applejack, being as traditionalist as she is, would obviously not like modern day progressives.

Rainbow Dash wants to be the best, and would not want some beta cucks trying to bring her down to make her "equal". I also doubt she's support such a weak foreign policy rather than dropping rainbombs on our enemies.

And Rarity, she's the most traditionally feminine of the mane 6 and she's a capitalist. This would draw the disdain from radfems and commies.

Twilight Sparkle is interesting in science and truth, so she wouldn't be having this 100 different gender shit.

Pinkie Pie loves to have fun and joke around. So this would put her at odds with the sensitive SJWs who seem to be devoid of humor and take everything as some form of offense.

And last but not least, Fluttershy wouldn't like them cause they're too violent. And she loves animals.
www.funnyjunk.com/channel/poli?
www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/?
Leftist groups like ANTIFA support using animal abuse to get back at Donald Trump.
Fluttershy, I believe, would tie these people up and burn them alive with gasoline, then put them out with a fire extinguisher, then burn them again.

For this, I believe the left has gone way too far the values and traditions of My Little Pony, and they must be stopped in Celestia's name
mynationalistpony.tumblr.com/p?
Now, I do admit I am citing a white nationalist blog, but it still presents a decent analysis of the current state of the West.
This compares the situation involving the European refugee crisis with the plight of the Crystal Ponies from Season 3 episode 1 and 2. There are notable similarities. Both the white europeans and the crystal ponies have lost their sense of patriotism and are at risk for dying out. They are living in fear of a great threat. The crystal ponies live in fear of King Sombra just as the European whites fear radical Islam. You can notice the effects of both situations produces similar sociological affects. The ponies of the Crystal Empire faced the same threat that Western civilization is currently facing, and like the Crystal ponies, we aren't fighting back.
"An Empire can only be preserved if its constituents all hold that Empire dear. A nation that refuses to acknowledge its own existence will soon fail to exist. Even more importantly, any fool who reasons his way into loving his nation can soon be reasoned out of it.
There is no love & unity within the West, and this why the West is dying. The 'love? modern society directs you to hold is a love of the foreign and alien, whilst a love of your own people is criminalised, slurred and spat on. You are a 'neo-Nazi? or a 'fascist? or a 'subhuman? if you dare to value your nearest and dearest most, and what is love but a difference of value?"

Now, how did Twilight Sparkle and her friends help reunite the Crystal Empire and defeat King Sombra? She used their tradition to reinvigorate the ponies with the love they need to restore their kingdom. In other words, nationalism. She restored the love they had in their country, their nation, and their tradition.
In the end, it was the nationalism in the hearts of the Crystal Ponies that defeated King Sombra. And similarly, that is the only thing that can save the west. Europe needs a right wing populist revolution against the radical left who wants to destroy them and the terrorists that threaten their safety. And the only thing that could produce such unity is a nationalist resurgence.

So obviously the solution for Europe is simple.... A SONG!!!

The Europeans need our help
Their nations will not last forever
I know we can do it, but we need to work together
We have to get this right, yes we have to make them see,
We can save the Europeans with thier history
You don't see gay marriage in Equestria, and that's cause they have family values.
LGBT ponies are probably tolerated in Equestria, but they don't usurp the traditions.
The reason Lyra and Bon Bon don't get married is because they respect Equestria's traditional values, so they live their life of decadence in private
Do you see any married gay couples in My Little Pony?
I thought not

So yea, fuck this show and it's right wing fellating.


Assuming this ISN'T Poe's Law in action...

I've heard all sorts of both valid and invalid complaints about the show, but this takes the cake. Next you'll tell me that you hate Lord of the Rings as well because skinheads like to think it promotes white supremacy.
 

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Worgen said:
Caramel Frappe said:
Some of the jokes fell flat, corny-as-hell dialogue, and kid vibes all throughout the trailer.

Not sure how to feel about it. I know MLP:FiM has the potential to be great like it once was, and add some amazing fights in the mix ... at least give us a good villain. I can't tell whether this one will work out or feel one dimensional with no edges around her.

Not a great feeling, but I do admire the animation at least. I also feel like some of the side characters are forced in so Hasbro can sell more toys. I hate it when companies do that.
I don't think your wrong about the corny jokes but comparing it to most kids movies trailers the jokes are positively high brow. Plus, no minions type characters.

I would argue the series is still great. I mean sure it has some misses but we still have some really big hits, like we finally got a Celestia/Luna episode and it was fantastic, plus we finally had one about the Apple parents and it was really really good too.

You might be right, but MLP just like Transformers is one of those shows based around selling toys. Really my big worry about the new side characters is that some of their designs doesn't fit into the show proper and to flesh them out the mane6 will be pushed to the wayside... aside from Twilight since in pretty much any adventure episode it kinda becomes the Twilight show and her friends are there.
Am I in the minority in that I think the show's largely got better as its progressed? Seasons 1-2 were meh for me, but I felt obliged to sit through them,
For me, season 5 was the peak, and episodes in season 7 (Luna+Celestial episode) are even improving on it.
 

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Neverhoodian said:
Smithnikov said:
Hawki said:
Such...as...?
I'll put it to you the way it was explained to me.

My Little Pony understand the importance of securing the boarder, especially in times of threats.
When canterlot was threatened in "A Canterlot Wedding" what did they do?
They set up a boarder using magic.
If Equestria was like modern Eurostan, they would have offered the changelings citizenship

And the Crystal Heart basically acts as a boarder which protects the Crystal Empire. Granted, it protects them from weather mostly, but it was the protective boarder from the Crystal Heart the killed King Sombra.

Once again, the day is saved, thanks to... boarder security, nationalism, and cultural identity.
(yay)
Applejack, being as traditionalist as she is, would obviously not like modern day progressives.

Rainbow Dash wants to be the best, and would not want some beta cucks trying to bring her down to make her "equal". I also doubt she's support such a weak foreign policy rather than dropping rainbombs on our enemies.

And Rarity, she's the most traditionally feminine of the mane 6 and she's a capitalist. This would draw the disdain from radfems and commies.

Twilight Sparkle is interesting in science and truth, so she wouldn't be having this 100 different gender shit.

Pinkie Pie loves to have fun and joke around. So this would put her at odds with the sensitive SJWs who seem to be devoid of humor and take everything as some form of offense.

And last but not least, Fluttershy wouldn't like them cause they're too violent. And she loves animals.
www.funnyjunk.com/channel/poli?
www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/?
Leftist groups like ANTIFA support using animal abuse to get back at Donald Trump.
Fluttershy, I believe, would tie these people up and burn them alive with gasoline, then put them out with a fire extinguisher, then burn them again.

For this, I believe the left has gone way too far the values and traditions of My Little Pony, and they must be stopped in Celestia's name
mynationalistpony.tumblr.com/p?
Now, I do admit I am citing a white nationalist blog, but it still presents a decent analysis of the current state of the West.
This compares the situation involving the European refugee crisis with the plight of the Crystal Ponies from Season 3 episode 1 and 2. There are notable similarities. Both the white europeans and the crystal ponies have lost their sense of patriotism and are at risk for dying out. They are living in fear of a great threat. The crystal ponies live in fear of King Sombra just as the European whites fear radical Islam. You can notice the effects of both situations produces similar sociological affects. The ponies of the Crystal Empire faced the same threat that Western civilization is currently facing, and like the Crystal ponies, we aren't fighting back.
"An Empire can only be preserved if its constituents all hold that Empire dear. A nation that refuses to acknowledge its own existence will soon fail to exist. Even more importantly, any fool who reasons his way into loving his nation can soon be reasoned out of it.
There is no love & unity within the West, and this why the West is dying. The 'love? modern society directs you to hold is a love of the foreign and alien, whilst a love of your own people is criminalised, slurred and spat on. You are a 'neo-Nazi? or a 'fascist? or a 'subhuman? if you dare to value your nearest and dearest most, and what is love but a difference of value?"

Now, how did Twilight Sparkle and her friends help reunite the Crystal Empire and defeat King Sombra? She used their tradition to reinvigorate the ponies with the love they need to restore their kingdom. In other words, nationalism. She restored the love they had in their country, their nation, and their tradition.
In the end, it was the nationalism in the hearts of the Crystal Ponies that defeated King Sombra. And similarly, that is the only thing that can save the west. Europe needs a right wing populist revolution against the radical left who wants to destroy them and the terrorists that threaten their safety. And the only thing that could produce such unity is a nationalist resurgence.

So obviously the solution for Europe is simple.... A SONG!!!

The Europeans need our help
Their nations will not last forever
I know we can do it, but we need to work together
We have to get this right, yes we have to make them see,
We can save the Europeans with thier history
You don't see gay marriage in Equestria, and that's cause they have family values.
LGBT ponies are probably tolerated in Equestria, but they don't usurp the traditions.
The reason Lyra and Bon Bon don't get married is because they respect Equestria's traditional values, so they live their life of decadence in private
Do you see any married gay couples in My Little Pony?
I thought not

So yea, fuck this show and it's right wing fellating.


Assuming this ISN'T Poe's Law in action...

I've heard all sorts of both valid and invalid complaints about the show, but this takes the cake. Next you'll tell me that you hate Lord of the Rings as well because skinheads like to think it promotes white supremacy.
Yeah, I've honestly never heard of this particular interpretation of the show before and frankly, very little of it seems to hold water. It's also kinda bizarre considering I didn't think the alt-right even cared about MLP, except to probably consider anti-male or such rubbish.
 

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I've heard all sorts of both valid and invalid complaints about the show, but this takes the cake. Next you'll tell me that you hate Lord of the Rings as well because skinheads like to think it promotes white supremacy.
*uncomfortable* Actualllyyyy, it does. Tolkien was a racist, nationalist kind of guy who very much believed in the "shit from birth" notion.

Dude, the Black Numenorians, Umbar, the Easterlings...
 

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EQ films(I've watched them. Somehow they get better even if they aren't up to the standards of the show).
Hmm...

On the subject, of the EQG films, my order of preference goes 2>3>1>4. Haven't seen the TV specials yet. But, I'm glad that MLP itself is getting a movie. I would have been happy for the EQG films to end with 3. I'd be even happier if Sunset made it into FiM, but that's probably not going to happen. :(

Smithnikov said:
*uncomfortable* Actualllyyyy, it does. Tolkien was a racist, nationalist kind of guy who very much believed in the "shit from birth" notion.

Dude, the Black Numenorians, Umbar, the Easterlings...
Um, that's the first I've heard of it.

I mean, if you squint, you can find subtle racism in Lord of the Rings. Off the top of my head, I can name two examples:

1) The orcs are described as being black skinned with large red lips, said orcs being barbarians with no culture. The physical description harkens back to European depictions of Africans.

2) It's arguably telling that all the 'good' human nations are in the west and harken to European cultures, while all the 'bad' human nations are in the east.

Still, I'd counter this with:

1) The orcs are designed to be the inverse of the elves, which means making them as deplorable as possible. The orcs arguably harken to racist depictions of Africans, but the orcs themselves are not human, but beings created through artificial means.

2) The series doesn't really postulate that "West = good, East = bad," more that the eastern nations tend to be 'bad' because they're under Sauron's influence. Time is taken in 'The Two Towers' to reflect on the body of the Haradrim soldier that Sam/Faramir finds (book/film), reflections being sympathetic to the notion of being forced to go to war. Sauron likewise corrupts Numenor, which is a far western nation and an 'uber' nation of sorts. In the First Age, Men arise in the east, but those who head west are the ones who escape Morgoth's influence, and Easterlings do help in some cases. Basically, it's more how Sauron/Morgoth is capable of corrupting humans in the setting, rather than good/bad being linked intrinsically to geographic location. Even Gondor is shown to be imperialist given its rule over Harad, before it begins its decline.

There's far more in-depth academic discussion out there, but Tolkein himself said that he didn't intend Lord of the Rings as allagory. So, at best, you could accuse it of having racial bias. But I can't call Lord of the Rings as a racist work in of itself.
 

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Some of the jokes fell flat, corny-as-hell dialogue, and kid vibes all throughout the trailer.

Not sure how to feel about it. I know MLP:FiM has the potential to be great like it once was, and add some amazing fights in the mix ... at least give us a good villain. I can't tell whether this one will work out or feel one dimensional with no edges around her.

Not a great feeling, but I do admire the animation at least. I also feel like some of the side characters are forced in so Hasbro can sell more toys. I hate it when companies do that.
I don't think your wrong about the corny jokes but comparing it to most kids movies trailers the jokes are positively high brow. Plus, no minions type characters.

I would argue the series is still great. I mean sure it has some misses but we still have some really big hits, like we finally got a Celestia/Luna episode and it was fantastic, plus we finally had one about the Apple parents and it was really really good too.

You might be right, but MLP just like Transformers is one of those shows based around selling toys. Really my big worry about the new side characters is that some of their designs doesn't fit into the show proper and to flesh them out the mane6 will be pushed to the wayside... aside from Twilight since in pretty much any adventure episode it kinda becomes the Twilight show and her friends are there.
Am I in the minority in that I think the show's largely got better as its progressed? Seasons 1-2 were meh for me, but I felt obliged to sit through them,
For me, season 5 was the peak, and episodes in season 7 (Luna+Celestial episode) are even improving on it.
I think a good portion of fans left the show after the short kinda underwhelming season 3 since there was also a long hiatus because of the first EQG movie thing. But I totally agree, season 5 was the best. I mean I liked season 1 and 2 but they are harder to watch than later seasons, at least more episodes in them are, they still have some great episodes.
 

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Dalisclock said:
EQ films(I've watched them. Somehow they get better even if they aren't up to the standards of the show).
Hmm...

On the subject, of the EQG films, my order of preference goes 2>3>1>4. Haven't seen the TV specials yet. But, I'm glad that MLP itself is getting a movie. I would have been happy for the EQG films to end with 3. I'd be even happier if Sunset made it into FiM, but that's probably not going to happen. :(
Wait, there's a 4th one? The last one I heard about was the school vs. school one(Equestria games).

It sounds like that's for the best, honestly.
 

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Great, just make it end.

I wonder what's going to become the next big fandom. Imagine a massive community centered around pogs or Alf? What a future to aspire to.