Modern Warfare 2: All losers?

[Yureina]

I'd say that you would find positive W:L ratios among the people who regularly play as a group or a team, and not neccesarily the "good players" who, despite their personal quality, may be playing solo. That's what i'd guess, anyway.

 

[Olikunmissile]

So I'm playing Modern Warfare 2, and I lose yet another handful of games, which by this point isn't surprising to me anymore...
I'm keeping my Killeath ratio up, focusing on not letting it drop, but I hadn't really checked out my Win:Loss ratio in ages.
Well, it was a resounding .74, which didn't mean anything to me...
I checked out the other ratios on the leaderboards (my friend's) to find that all of them also have negative wins to losses... Even the ones that play very very well...
Which brings me to the conclusion, in MW2, nobody wins...
Which is true in so many ways, but if all of us are losing games daily, who the hell is winning them all?

In war, no one wins. They just lose less people

Ahem. I got ninja'd by the guy calling out the people who camp for nukes, they're the real winners! They're so cool sitting in a corner I wish I was THAT cool!

 

[Velvo]

Hahaha! Well, everyone who plays MW2 is a loser anyway, so it figures.

BUT yes, it follows that the few AMAZINGLY good players hog all the damn wins. You know, the people with no life who think that they can "go pro" in a game that will be rendered obsolete in a year or so. They have 3.0 or 4.0 scores and ruin it for everyone else who have a little more of a life than them (but not much (like me)).

 

[firedfns13]

I have a 1.22 w/l. My friends and I generally win 90% of the matches we play, but the other set of people I play with are camping, boring, skinner box trapped professional prestigers. They cost me a lot of wins.

 

[GundamSentinel]

My W/L in MW2 is 0.97:1 now and going up. Not as good as my MW1 W/L (13:1 for some crazy reason), but I don't see why someone who plays well shouldn't have a W:L above 1:1.
That is of course, unless you're playing free-for-all all the time. Then yes, it's gonna be lower. Objective win chance of 1:2 versus 1:12 can make the difference.

 

[Low Key]

Pretty sure if you rage quit, that counts as a loss. That means that there is probably a disproportionate amount of losses compared to wins. Not saying anyone here does that, but say if your connection gets dropped or something stupid like that, you'll still get an L.

 

[reyttm4]

Infinity Ward wins.

Edit: Just in case someone is wondering I don't mean wins as in is good, or like epic fail or epic win.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Which is true in so many ways, but if all of us are losing games daily, who the hell is winning them all?

The guys who work as a good team.

My K/D is 1.37 and my W/L is 1.70 (last I checked) and all my friends I play with in a team have positive (or JUST negative) ratios as well.

Just comes from communicating with each other and knowing what to do when really.

NOTE: I don't do the whole you must be over said K/D to be on my friends list - these are just casual guys I played with in CoD4/WaW

team work =/= call of duty 99.99999% of the time

i have yet to see a succesful "team" in that game, that game is built around one man triumps, which nothing wrong with that, its fun, just saying those games are not built on teamwork

 

[Stuntcrab]

Which is true in so many ways, but if all of us are losing games daily, who the hell is winning them all?

The spawn camper who gets a Nuke.

For me it was the idiot that hacked for a nuke, he was BUT I WANT THE TITLE!! asshole type

 

[dududf]

Which is true in so many ways, but if all of us are losing games daily, who the hell is winning them all?

The guys who work as a good team.

My K/D is 1.37 and my W/L is 1.70 (last I checked) and all my friends I play with in a team have positive (or JUST negative) ratios as well.

Just comes from communicating with each other and knowing what to do when really.

NOTE: I don't do the whole you must be over said K/D to be on my friends list - these are just casual guys I played with in CoD4/WaW

team work =/= call of duty 99.99999% of the time

i have yet to see a succesful "team" in that game, that game is built around one man triumps, which nothing wrong with that, its fun, just saying those games are not built on teamwork

In CoD 4 team work worked very well on PC.

Hop on Ventrilo, get over view of the maps and open paint, and presto you've got a plan.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Which is true in so many ways, but if all of us are losing games daily, who the hell is winning them all?

The guys who work as a good team.

My K/D is 1.37 and my W/L is 1.70 (last I checked) and all my friends I play with in a team have positive (or JUST negative) ratios as well.

Just comes from communicating with each other and knowing what to do when really.

NOTE: I don't do the whole you must be over said K/D to be on my friends list - these are just casual guys I played with in CoD4/WaW

team work =/= call of duty 99.99999% of the time

i have yet to see a succesful "team" in that game, that game is built around one man triumps, which nothing wrong with that, its fun, just saying those games are not built on teamwork

In CoD 4 team work worked very well on PC.

Hop on Ventrilo, get over view of the maps and open paint, and presto you've got a plan.

like i said, i have yet to see it (i literally have played it on every system, including wii)

some maps and the way the perks/guns work, do not allow you to use teamwork, a ton of it is purely based off of one man army run arounds with whos got the best connection/who has seen who first.

if you say, camping in one corner of the map and have everyone watching certain doors and corners, then yes, literally every fps known to man can be a team based game

 

[dududf]

Which is true in so many ways, but if all of us are losing games daily, who the hell is winning them all?

The guys who work as a good team.

My K/D is 1.37 and my W/L is 1.70 (last I checked) and all my friends I play with in a team have positive (or JUST negative) ratios as well.

Just comes from communicating with each other and knowing what to do when really.

NOTE: I don't do the whole you must be over said K/D to be on my friends list - these are just casual guys I played with in CoD4/WaW

team work =/= call of duty 99.99999% of the time

i have yet to see a succesful "team" in that game, that game is built around one man triumps, which nothing wrong with that, its fun, just saying those games are not built on teamwork

In CoD 4 team work worked very well on PC.

Hop on Ventrilo, get over view of the maps and open paint, and presto you've got a plan.

like i said, i have yet to see it (i literally have played it on every system, including wii)

some maps and the way the perks/guns work, do not allow you to use teamwork, a ton of it is purely based off of one man army run arounds with whos got the best connection/who has seen who first.

if you say, camping in one corner of the map and have everyone watching certain doors and corners, then yes, literally every fps known to man can be a team based game

Nope I'm not talking about that, I'm saying we would plot out tactics, and back up plans.

This was scrimming though, I doubt you could do this with randoms.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Which is true in so many ways, but if all of us are losing games daily, who the hell is winning them all?

The guys who work as a good team.

My K/D is 1.37 and my W/L is 1.70 (last I checked) and all my friends I play with in a team have positive (or JUST negative) ratios as well.

Just comes from communicating with each other and knowing what to do when really.

NOTE: I don't do the whole you must be over said K/D to be on my friends list - these are just casual guys I played with in CoD4/WaW

team work =/= call of duty 99.99999% of the time

i have yet to see a succesful "team" in that game, that game is built around one man triumps, which nothing wrong with that, its fun, just saying those games are not built on teamwork

In CoD 4 team work worked very well on PC.

Hop on Ventrilo, get over view of the maps and open paint, and presto you've got a plan.

like i said, i have yet to see it (i literally have played it on every system, including wii)

some maps and the way the perks/guns work, do not allow you to use teamwork, a ton of it is purely based off of one man army run arounds with whos got the best connection/who has seen who first.

if you say, camping in one corner of the map and have everyone watching certain doors and corners, then yes, literally every fps known to man can be a team based game

Nope I'm not talking about that, I'm saying we would plot out tactics, and back up plans.

This was scrimming though, I doubt you could do this with randoms.

thats basically what i was going at, the cod series does not reward in any way teamwork,you can plan stuff but it probably wont be succesful like alot of other team based games can be, if anything it shits on you, especially with some of the killstreaks that are allowed in mw2 (i know you are talking about cod4, just stating that its more than obvious in its horrible succsessor)

 

[VanBasten]

thats basically what i was going at, the cod series does not reward in any way teamwork

That's simply not true, if you have a team that's communicating and plays reasonably decent together you will steamroll the random matched opposition 90% of the time.

 

[heavy-metal-ink]

Never noticed it before, but on my whole friends list ( 87 people, at least 80 of which have played MW2 ) only 3 people have a positive K ratio. and 1 of them has only played 11 games.
Kinda strange, maybe its with people leaving mid-game ?

 

[slipknot4]

In war no one wins, so MW2 must be sticking to realism. But really the wins are just so spread out that it looks like there are more losses then there are wins.

Realism? First I lol'd, then i serious'd.
Sure in real war no one wins but in call of duty there has to be more loosers than winners if we take a look at what everyones playing.

1. FFA 8 players, only 1 wins. Win chance 10-15%
2. Team Deathmatch, 12 players 6 wins 6 looses, 50-50%
3. Mercenary, same applies to this game mode as team dm

Take me as an example, i only play free for all games, i have a k:d of 1.14 at about 16000 kills but my win ratio is horrible
200 wins, 800 looses

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

thats basically what i was going at, the cod series does not reward in any way teamwork

That's simply not true, if you have a team that's communicating and plays reasonably decent together you will steamroll the random matched opposition 90% of the time.

like i said, i have yet to see this, i have dominated some teams entirely when they tried to do teamwork stuff because it was highly predictable and they were all in a group so grenade galore and door checking was quite easy against them, and i have three friends who were semi pro in cod4 on pc (i know i know, its a useless title, just stating they were pretty damn good) and they woud single handedly "steam roll" teams that tried to do this


im not saying teamwork never succeeds, im just saying the game doesn't have its rewards for teamwork, the game is based heavily on how well you do single handedly

 

[omega 616]

Remember leaving a game also results in a loss, so if you leave alot of games that effects it aswell.

People could also be playing in clans, which can dominate easily (unless you get a noobtuber one shotting them).

 

[Kukakkau]

team work =/= call of duty 99.99999% of the time

i have yet to see a succesful "team" in that game, that game is built around one man triumps, which nothing wrong with that, its fun, just saying those games are not built on teamwork

It's true that solo work is heavily rewarded in the game (thank you stupid killstreaks) but in games such as demolition, sabotage, domination (sometimes) and even in search and destroy a team that works well together and knows each others style of play will trump a bunch of lone wolves.

A good idea is to play private matches against your friends and learn their style of play - if you know how they play you can guess what they'll do when they're on your team. I switched to a rush style of play since I noticed we didn't have anyone doing that - with this class I can quickly get behind the enemies who are occupied by my teamates who have a habit of taking a defensive line to hold the enemy off objectives. This gets me alot more kills than sitting back would since I can take them by surprise.

Also went into a game of search last night by myself and ended up with me and a teamate left with one enemy. Second this happened he asked where I was and said to go to the A bombsite if he went down and i told him if I went down to run over to B. Information like this in invaluable and can decide a win or loss.