Modern Warfare 2 boycott huge Success
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No one won or lost. It is what it is pure and simple. All the whining and bitching did in an incorrect way was accomplish exactly what I said. Maybe next time try being smarter and you might find you get better results. As for the whole price thing newsflash here in Canada we have been paying 10 bucks more for alot of games for close to a year now. MW2 charging 69.99 is no big deal when I paid 69.99 for Spiderman Web of Shadows when it launched. That is the first game I ever paid more than 59.99 for and it hasn't been the last. Oh boo hoo PC games are following suit. You think because you get yours on a different platform you should get it cheaper because that is how it has always been? That your version according to you is better but should be cheaper? How in the fuck does that make sense? Once you get over that sense of entitlement you will fucking well see it doesn't!!!! What would make sense is console games with thier lack of mods and toolsets get a break on the price. But you don't see us forming boycott groups so we can fucking cry about it. Why because "consoletards" as you elitists so kindly put it understand if we don't like it we simply don't buy it. We don't try to call our not buying it a boycott to gain attention like fucking 2 year olds attempting to manipulate our parents into buying us everything we want. Oh yeah PC gamers are the mature bunch. How could I forget that???CmdrGoob said:
1) The smarter way to fight it like, um, buy it and play it anyway? Bomb Activision? Boycotts are all consumers can do.squid5580 said:
2) PC games cost less because they don't have to pay licencing fees. You do know console manufacturers charge licencing fees to game developers don't you? Why do you think they sell consoles so cheaply they lose money on them? Because they can make it up with licencing fees. Activision don't have to pay licencing fees on the PC version, so charging the same amount as console games that do is pure money grabbing plain and simple.
I'm not not buying Modern Warfare 2 because of a lack of dedicated servers. I'm not buying it because I need to shell out $60 on another first person shooter- one heavily dependent on other players for quality of experience, no less- like I need the proverbial hole in the head.
Seriously. I have a shelf full of games I've barely touched. By the time I'll even consider MW2, it will probably be down to $30 or less. I find all the hype and various silly controversies associated with the game completely ludicrous. You would think it was either the Messiah or the Antichrist to hear some people going on, but 90% of its demographic is going to have moved on to something completely different in eighteen months.
I just wish Activision would stop this "One reliable game and a juggernaut marketing campaign is twenty times better than ten games that take a chance and try to do something new" strategy. MW2 is probably perfectly decent for what it is, but seriously. For all the talk of the games business "going Hollywood", I never thought it would be most evident in the freaking board rooms.
Seriously. I have a shelf full of games I've barely touched. By the time I'll even consider MW2, it will probably be down to $30 or less. I find all the hype and various silly controversies associated with the game completely ludicrous. You would think it was either the Messiah or the Antichrist to hear some people going on, but 90% of its demographic is going to have moved on to something completely different in eighteen months.
I just wish Activision would stop this "One reliable game and a juggernaut marketing campaign is twenty times better than ten games that take a chance and try to do something new" strategy. MW2 is probably perfectly decent for what it is, but seriously. For all the talk of the games business "going Hollywood", I never thought it would be most evident in the freaking board rooms.
You guys do realize Activision is already planning new ways of ripping us off, right?
"It's [WoW like subscription fees] definitely an aspiration that we see potential in, particularly as we look at different business models to monetize the online gameplay. [...] you should expect us to test and ultimately launch additional online monetization models of some of some of our biggest franchises like Call of Duty."
says Activision's CFO [http://kotaku.com/5405217/activision-exec-expect-additional-paid-online-modes]
Good thing that boycott didn't work, hey?
"It's [WoW like subscription fees] definitely an aspiration that we see potential in, particularly as we look at different business models to monetize the online gameplay. [...] you should expect us to test and ultimately launch additional online monetization models of some of some of our biggest franchises like Call of Duty."
says Activision's CFO [http://kotaku.com/5405217/activision-exec-expect-additional-paid-online-modes]
Good thing that boycott didn't work, hey?
Oh noes a company is trying to make money!! The horror. Run for the hills. Think about it. Which base is larger PC or console? If you said console you are correct. So console gamers see that they are getting charged more for less. What should we do? Boycott until we get mods and cheaper games? You don't think companies are recognizing that threat? That if things continue the way they were/are they risk offending the ones who are making not only them but the companies they make games for tons of cash? That if all console players move to the PC where piracy runs unchecked and is as easy as 2 clicks of a mouse it is over for them. No more support from Sony or Nintendo or MS. Not to mention the casual type gamers who would have no interest in moving to the PC. Or do they level the field (which is retail shelves) by ensuring that gamers are getting a similar experience for the same price?CmdrGoob said:
And crying because a new untested feature is implemented, threatening piracy and boycotts before it is close to launch is not fighting smart. Sending angry (but eloquent) emails and petitioning if the new system is broken or ineffective is.
Whenever people make statements like that I am reminded of the psychology experiment where a scientist got people to actually doubt that 2+2=4. People need to always be aware that a majority of people can be utterly wrong while a minority can be correct.Mornelithe said:
In the case of MW2 the game isn't bad per say. The technology used in the multiplayer does lead to an experience that is not necessarily as good as it could be.
I found this pretty funny as well, while still on the topic of the MW2 boycott fail:
http://www.halolz.com/2009/11/13/hypocrisy-thy-name-is-boycott/
EDIT: Turns out the image has already been used. Sigh.
http://www.halolz.com/2009/11/13/hypocrisy-thy-name-is-boycott/
EDIT: Turns out the image has already been used. Sigh.
Sometimes I get the feeling that openly boycotting things to the degree people did with Modern Warfare 2 only promotes it more. In the same way that a controversial game will sell quite well based on the controversy because people just want to see how controversial it is, I think the people boycotting games are really only a major benefit of a sale. That said, I do feel that if you are no longer interested in buying a game you can just not buy a game quietly and keep to yourself, you don't have to announce it to every single person in defiance.
I don't think that is how it works. Boycotts do get a lot of attention and are well understood but most people who buy the game don't look around on threads to see what people think. I reckon most of the gamers don't even know that there is a boycott for MW2. Most of the people from my school don't even follow the news on games, they just see the ad's and if it interests them, they will buy it without even seeing if there are any problems. That is what most casual gamers do actually, they don't want to learn about computers and what not and just get it for the console expecting it to just work and to be better than the one before it.Vrex360 said:
Well I guess you have a point there, but surely over internet gaming sites like the Escapist and the equivilants as well as the thousands of blogs about it surely people would at least be aware that people were outraged by some kind of short coming. But I suppose the short coming really only applied to PC so people buying for consoles really wouldn't care that much. But the thing is if a lot of people get talking about something, it's going to make people curious said thing, be it game, movie, book or whatever. Regardless of whether or not the information is negative it is still going to be an effective way to get publicity. That's why movies that are controversial sell, I mean come on the Da Vinci Code was one of the most hated movies to be released in recent years, yet all that stuff about religious groups wanting it banned and demanding people to boycott it only made people want to see it more. I just think that at least in some way, shape or form... negative publicity can still give a positive response to whatever the subject matter is.Nazulu said:
But to be fair it is possible a lot of people just wanted to play Modern Warfare 2 really badly which is perfectly acceptable. It's just a theory I have is all.
oliveira8 said:
Exactly my point. It seems some people just dont understand how buisness actually works, or they live in a make believe world where happy thoughts and good intentions carry more weight then soild earnings and record sales.
Buisness is about copying whats hot. Activision just made more money in five days then some game companys out there have made in 5 years. This has pretty much set a benchmark for the industry. If you want to profitably: Market for the console.
You'd have to be blinde not to notice that over the past 5 years PC gaming has been on a slow decline. Jus think back a few years ago when you could walk into any best buy or other retailer and see shelves full of PC games. Now your lucky to find one shelf. You can lie to your self and think that PC gaming is just in a lag period. If anything we are going to see a trend shift over the next year or so into a more profitable system.
It will happen.
The only question is will PC gamers stand for it, buy in and tune out. Or will they stand down and actually boycott the changes and prove to these greedy companys that the conusmer decides what they want. NOT the Developer.
But its all pointless any way. The lemmings and consumer whores will still fork out the money and further down the spiral we will go.
Casual != Console.sms_117b said:
OT: IW made the decision to not make dedicated servers for a reason. They're entitled to make that decision. I wish everyone would get over it and stop feeling so damned betrayed. IW don't care that you're crying about not having dedicated servers, they've made the most successful game this year (much to my annoyance; so many better games for that title). Quit yo' bitchin' you girls.
