Modern Warfare 2 syndrome.

[CaptainKoala]

Think back to several years ago. When every game was ambitious towards being unique in its own way. People were having fun with Halo 3, Bad Company 1, and Call of Duty 4. They all have their own kinds of gameplay that are completely different from each other. Yet each one is still fun. Specifically I'm going to talk about single player. Call of Duty 4 was a great game for single and multi-player. Most importantly, COD4 knew what it wanted to be: A realistic fps with a plot that was feasible and gameplay mechanics that weren't completely absurd. (Except for noob-tubes). Then Infinity Ward tried to capitalize on the shocking parts of COD4 by making MW2 nothing but shocking moments, epic set pieces in the levels, and unrealistic epic shootouts. My point is that unlike COD4, MW2 didn't know what it wanted to be. Some parts it was realistic, but other places I wouldn't have been surprised if my next mission would be in a secret military base on Neptune. The whole campaign was basically a Michael Bay film: Lots of plot holes that you aren't supposed to question because you should be watching things blow up. MW2 was one of the best selling games of all time. So now developers are more concerned about making a MW2 clone that sells well instead of making a game with a something unique that separates itself from the rest of the pack. Bungie and the Dice team have made a few major steps with BC2 and Halo Reach. Remember how one of yahtzee's things is: "Like God of War but..." or "Like GTA but...". Now almost every game falls under "Just like the MW2 campaign except...".

Anyone else agree?

 

[The Procrastinated End]

Could you please list the games under the MW2 clone category?

 

[ohgodalex]

Stolen concepts in this post:
-Yahtzee's phrase "Just like BUT"
-Every post complaining about how Halo ruined the game industry.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I enjoyed the MW2 campaign and I'll be happy to play more games like it.

 

[pyrosaw]

Although you bring up a good point, I have to disagree with on one point. Bungie has yet to make changes to the halo series yet, Halo Reach might be an exception. Dice team has always tried to copy the massive success of COD4. Bad Company 1 was a clone of COD4, BC2 is a clone of MW2. This is what I called war simulator syndrome. Then you get games like Blacklight: Tango Down, that sells itself on multiplayer only, multiplayer that feels similar to COD4. Don't worry about it. There's enough people playing other shooters to survive for a while. Hopefully aroung that time, Activision will drive into the ground.

 

[CaptainKoala]

Could you please list the games under the MW2 clone category?

Transformers WFC (multi-player)
Bad Company 2 (ONLY the campaign, not the multiplayer, the multiplayer in BC2 is as unique as a 12 headed purple seal that shoots lasers)
Medal of Honor (At least from what the beta shows).
95% of games in which another country invades the US.
And any game that has its own equivalent of 'prestiging'

 

[SamtheDeathclaw]

Stolen concepts in this post:
-Yahtzee's phrase "Just like BUT"
-Every post complaining about how Halo ruined the game industry.

My dear sir or madam! Who the fuck has even said anything negative in any way form or fashion about Halo? Try reading a thread BEFORE telling people off.

 

[TheComedown]

Stolen concepts in this post:
-Yahtzee's phrase "Just like BUT"
-Every post complaining about how Halo ruined the game industry.

Don't forget Yahtzee's MW2 review.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

-Every post complaining about how Halo ruined the game industry.

Except replacing Halo with Modern Warfare 2.

Businesses follow the flow of money more closely than the flow of fans.

 

[there is no spoon]

Are you reading some we aren't? where does it say Halo ruined the game industry?

 

[CaptainKoala]

I enjoyed the MW2 campaign and I'll be happy to play more games like it.

I enjoyed it too, but I would have enjoyed it much more if it had decided to be a far out, unrealistic, but still tons of fun. Or realistic modern military simulator that is also fun. But it chose both, and sadly those two are great alone but not as great together.

 

[CaptainKoala]

Are you reading some we aren't? where does it say Halo ruined the game industry?

Talking to me or that other guy? this was completely a MW thread.

 

[Shepard's Shadow]

No, I don't agree. I think your entire post is one giant paragraph of wrong opinions.

 

[The Procrastinated End]

Could you please list the games under the MW2 clone category?

Transformers WFC (multi-player)
Bad Company 2 (ONLY the campaign, not the multiplayer, the multiplayer in BC2 is as unique as a 12 headed purple seal that shoots lasers)
Medal of Honor (At least from what the beta shows).
95% of games in which another country invades the US.
And any game that has its own equivalent of 'prestiging'

So parts of three different games that you can specifically list are like MW2. Your right its practically an epidemic.

 

[ohgodalex]

Stolen concepts in this post:
-Yahtzee's phrase "Just like BUT"
-Every post complaining about how Halo ruined the game industry.

My dear sir or madam! Who the fuck has even said anything negative in any way form or fashion about Halo? Try reading a thread BEFORE telling people off.

What you seem to have missed here is that, when I say that the concept for this post was stolen from threads about how Halo ruined the game industry, I do not mean that he copied an older thread word for word. Rather, I meant that he's saying the same things about MW2 that countless other people have said about Halo.

 

[SamtheDeathclaw]

What you seem to have missed here is that, when I say that the concept for this post was stolen from threads about how Halo ruined the game industry, I do not mean that he copied an older thread word for word. Rather, I meant that he's saying the same things about MW2 that countless other people have said about Halo.

Ahh, I apologize! I missed the point of your post. But, out of curiosity, what exactly does that have to do with Yahtzee? I know he ragged on Halo about it, but then again, so did countless people before him.

 

[Cresscendo]

halo didnt ruin the gaming industry. far from it in fact, halo combat evolved was an amazing game and helped to start the trend of good multiplayer shooters. if anything ruined anything at all, it was simply developers looking to capitalize on halo's success and thus we have seen online multiplayer shooters being pumped out by the truckload. this is the downfall of gaming, where repetitive games are churned out on an assembly line. and lets face it, after a few games all shooters tend to run together dont they? also, while i do agree that mw2 is a less than stellar game overall, as it focused primarily on over the top drama and effects instead of storyline to keep the player interested, it still has redeemable qualities and should not even remotely be considered as this horrible plague on the gaming world. for things that should be considered such i kindly redirect you to pyrosaw's topic about the games that one should never play.

 

[there is no spoon]

Are you reading some we aren't? where does it say Halo ruined the game industry?

Talking to me or that other guy? this was completely a MW thread.

My fault bro. I was talking to the guy calling out the OP for saying that Halo ruined the gaming industry. Clearly the OP said nothing of the sort and I was a little pissed that this guy jumped to such rash conclusions. Again my apologizes as this was not aimed at you.

 

[Zackary Yakumo]

Are you reading some we aren't? where does it say Halo ruined the game industry?

I missed that too. abnd personally, i agree with this guy. he has pointed a most valid point; that most games are just a copy of mw2 or some other game.