i thought that guy was piano wired actually and the fact that they where in full combat uniform with body armor made it seem like some base in somewhere like iraq or that country they invaded in the first game. The bases design didn;t seem like an american base in america either but I could easily be wrong.Chipperz said:
Modern Warfare 2 Trailer Criticized For "Going Too Far"
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Firstly, who said it's a foreign invasion? The dirty secret of American history is that, historically, Americans have killed far more Americans than anyone else has. You've had a bloody civil war already, and you have plenty of "militia" movements in your past. Domestic terrorism (including police response) has killed more US citizens than all foreign-originated terrorist events combined. But no one talks about that in the US, it seems...Wandrecanada said:
Secondly, please thank Mrs. Madison and tell her she sets an excellent table [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington#Events]. Though the specifics of that event won't be repeated in modern times, there is historical precedent. (The odds of which improve dramatically if, as noted above, there's a fifth column movement already in place.)
-- Steve
Yeah. Having pride in anything is stupid.ZahrDalsk said:
Obligatory repeated "blahblahblah author is overreacting" for the millionth time.
I never understand what people are trying to accomplish when they want to censor stuff like this. Why? Because it'll upseet others? What others? Why don't they come forth? Has there ever been a black person to come forward and say "I was deeply offended by Resident Evil 5?" Has there ever been a child to come forward and say "I was deeply disturbed by [insert mature game here]?" Has there ever been a hooker to say "It hurts my feelings that Niko kills all my friends in GTA4?"
The author here is particularly bad at explaining why this is a bad thing. It's "striking." Lots of things are striking. Lots and lots and lots of things. Go to 4chan if you don't believe me. Striking is not an efficient reason to completely ban something.
It's fiction. Chill the eff out.
It seems to me that he should have started shouting when Independence Day was released or, since he a Cristian Science Monitor writer, Resistance: Fall of Man and it's Manchester Cathedral bit.
I do think that the Halo ads go to far but only because it seems to equate game violence to actual battle scars. I don't care what army you're in or the legitamacy of the conflict but if you've seen you friends die or lost limbs/eyes it must hurt to have it trivialised like that. That said I would NOT want to see it band.
I do think that the Halo ads go to far but only because it seems to equate game violence to actual battle scars. I don't care what army you're in or the legitamacy of the conflict but if you've seen you friends die or lost limbs/eyes it must hurt to have it trivialised like that. That said I would NOT want to see it band.
Yeah, the guy before the music stops is piano wired, I'm talking more specifically about the guys after the music starts up again, when he starts talking about "the soil which is not your own". I thought they'd been gassed, but it looks like they're psyching themselves up, going up the stairs and into the D.C. combat zone.Ph33nix said:
Wow, what the guy actually said is the burning mansion should be a middle-eastern leaders home rather than the american leaders home? riggghhhtt...
And, lets have some more examples then. Independence day, they blow up the white house with a LAZOR BEEMZ.
CoD:WaW, your fighting in the German Parliment building as it burns.
Many games and movies have this sort of thing.
And, lets have some more examples then. Independence day, they blow up the white house with a LAZOR BEEMZ.
CoD:WaW, your fighting in the German Parliment building as it burns.
Many games and movies have this sort of thing.
So the problem here is that the war is taking place on American soil? Boo-hoo. In CoD4 you hear civilians of "some fictional town in eastern Europe" being slaughtered by ultra-nationalists. Just because it takes place in America, a bunch of red-necks are going to complain. Guess what, it's FAKE and either way, IW is American, if they don't have a problem with it, neither should anyone else.
Assuming that fighting in D.C. is going to be a major part of the storyline of Modern Warfare 2, it could do wonders for "what is allowed" in video games. I really hope Activion/Infinity Ward have the guts to not cut these sections should they come under further criticism. Why is it that when something such as this (aka, a "Major U.S. City" being destroyed) comes up in a video game, people take it upon themselves to get upset. No one bats an eyelid when New York gets destroyed in Godzilla, The Day After Tomorrow, Cloverfield etc. but because Video Games are the current scape goat for society's problems, it's clearly a bad thing. Fighting on the ground surrounding the White House in a game isn't going to make ANYONE think, "Hmm, I'll go and get my gun and re enact what I've just played". Non gamers are far to quick to forget that it is afterall fictional. I really hope Activision/Infinity Ward don't feel pressured to edit the sequences or remove them completely.
As an American, I say let it burn. It might be cathartic to watch the DC politicians go up in a mushroom cloud - purely within the confines of the videogame before the goddamn FBI show up at my door. I am a loyal American citizen who was touched like any other on 9/11, but in a videogame it's not actual death, it's a dramatic set peace to make the final defeat of the villain all the more satisfying.
So these complainers are happy enough when games are set in someone else country but when its in America suddenly they are like "This is too graphic and shocking", well i say you have multiple standards to be ashamed of, thats verging on racism through preference. Also Andrew Heining, of the Christian Science, saying that its shocking because its the first time something showing destruction on American soil since 9/11 is ridiculous. 9/11 was a terrible event that like everyone else I wish had never occurred, but if you constantly let it get in the way of enjoyment then you are only furthering the suffering and therefore dishonoring those who truly suffered due to that tragedy.
I can't beleive anyone would be such as massive cvnting cvntfaced cvnt as to actually suggest that blowing up an eastern european town is okay, but blowing up Washington isn't.
Ok, the only thing about this I paid attention to is that theres something called the "christian science monitor".
That has made my fucking day.
That has made my fucking day.
Epic trailer. I for one, (and everyone else here apparently..) think that the author needs to chill. one of the BF2 expansions had a few "American" maps on there, and I don't recall anyone going ballistic over it. To me, its just another case of the Baptist church peeps/auxiliaries blowing hot air over nothing.
