Molyneux Says Americans Find it Harder to Be Evil

[Superhyperactiveman]

Are you kidding!?! I play the evil guy all the time...

Well, to be fair, I do prefer to be the good guy, but that's not because of any kind of problem I have with evil, it's because I've just got a hero complex.

 

[FinalGamer]

What statistics does he have to back this up?
Also, where's the European statistics? I say proudly that I myself find it impossible to take the evil path personally, I get very upset when I do. Timmy Neusbaum's crying in Tranquility Lane just wound me deep.

 

[ShortCommings]

Bull shit! When i heard all those lame old timey british accents i literally ran around bourstone murdering everyone yelling "USA! USA!" and after i got the abe lincoln hat i ran around as honest abe in a story that will be recorded in history as "FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN ASSWOOPINGS AGO"

tbh i had the same urge to kill all the brittish, and i am brittish. seems weird that they sterotyped every damn fucker to be either a farmer or posh. though on the other side its nice to hear a real accent that makes sense in the surroundings unlike the multitude of games that has a dumb ass yank superhero against an evil public schoolboy posh, despite the game being set in feudel japan/mars/ww1-2 (the last one is cus.. lets face it americans you kinda turned up to the party when everyone else was already passed out in bed with the fat birds)

 

[Nurb]

I'm not suprised. He wanted evil characters to be able to kill kids in the first Fable game, because they're evil... but the publisher was like "no no no".

so you can seduce and brutally kill homosexuals in the game, but killing kids? lets not go off the deep end! pfft. No one has any balls to make a character 'truely evil'

 

[Merteg]

He must have polled a bunch of weird Americans to find those results.

 

[Arbitrary Cidin]

I like how Peter, so blindly proud of the "home" team, interpreted these stats that he seemingly pulled from his ass (like Fable 3 ideas) as Europeans being more liberated. There's no possible chance that this is a positive trait of America or that the typical American gamer possibly doesn't have bottled up bloodlust to unwind on games with? Oh, and it's impossible that they just find being good more enjoyable than killing women, isn't it? No, no, the only sensible possibility is that Americans are afraid of their Xbox judging them while they're alone in their room.
By the way, I doubt these numbers are true; there's plenty of evil fucks in America, I'm just mad about his opinion of what he thinks is true.
Anyway, what is his reasoning behind this? Most people probably did all three for gamerscore or went neutral because they didn't finish the Archeologist quest. Besides, the evil reward was disappointing; it wasn't unique in any way and could be easily obtained at that point in the game.

 

[TheLefty]

Chalk one up for neutrality.

 

[jad4400]

Curses, I'm part of that statistic. I always play as the good guy.

 

[Dax317]

personaly i like to be a rather evil person...in video games...okay and in real life. BUT sometimes im good like in fallout 3. i didnt blow up megaton. sure i killed eveyone who lived there. but at least it was fast.

 

[theultimateend]

I choose good because they get all the best gear in every game where evil and good are the options.

Except in the case of Evil Genius, I'm always Evil in that game.

 

[Xanadu84]

I sense a flawed study!

Seriously, I have an extreme proclivity for doing good. I'm a goody two shoes to the core. And I probably play the evil side about 30% of the time.

I agree that black and white moral choice CAN reflect on morality in an interesting way. Problem is that doing so no longer challenges our preconceptions. What hes talking about, with the similar methods of both good and evil...that's about as big a cliche as you can possibly get these days (Were not so different, you and I...). It worked before, but its time to explore some grey areas, or moral choice systems that are a little more multi-fauceted. Here's an idea for free: Do a game with a rating for good versus evil, and what others PERCEIVE as good versus evil. Allow different upgrades and equipment and rewards for both. If a person is trying to be a goody two-shoes, force them to face a morally necessary, but unpopular, choice, and let the player decide if they would rather have there character be loved or do the right thing. Allow a character to be seen as a feared villain who does what is necessary to save the people he loves. Or make a villain who, through manipulation and deceit, is loved as a saint while secretly he is a bastard acting out of cruel self interest. Make a pure villain or pure hero be almost impossible to get. That would be a fascinating moral choice system, far more in depth then a moral choice system that just gets you to play the game twice with a different character build.

 

[N-Sef]

If he truly believes this, than his view of the world is incredibly simplistic.

 

[ArcWinter]

Well this is in Fable. All the evil people play Halo and grief, or play Oblivion and kill everyone in the Imperial City. (I must've killed at least 200 Imperial Guards with my Cheese Golem...)

 

[Drake the Dragonheart]

This is a goddamn outrage.
Does he have a dog?
I'm going to kill and eat his dog.

In front of his little girl.

...Does he have a little girl?
Man, this is a lot of work.

But I'll show him evil!
Even if I have to wait...

EDIT: Though I will admit, I find it easier to be a dick in real life than I do in game.
I'm not sure why.

Remind me to never meet you in real life! (only joking, of course)

But really? Only 10%? Most of my friends almost always choose the evil option. I find it interesting that my friends run so contrary to the actual percentages.

 

[hypothetical fact]

Perhaps Americans only choose the evil option when they know it is the evil option? Would explain Americans on xbox live.

 

[Ph0t0n1c Ph34r]

Hm... I'm not quite sure what to make of this. Being evil for the sake of being evil never really made sense to me, but at least your helping non-existant people by being good... The only reason I made an evil character in Fable 2 was so i could get The Maelstrom from the temple of shadows.

And not to go off-topic, but what is that armor in the screenshot, and where can I find it?

You need the knotholes island expansion.

 

[sunpop]

But the evil in his game is stupid they make it clear and black and white punch the puppy or give the kid a lolly pop and dance around the gray areas of not get involved. The evil in that game as with many games is just being a jackass not a truly evil man I think Yahtzee put it best when he said that a real evil man would trick the whole world into loving him and making him there leader then next thing you know off world slavery. That's evil and not the overplayed this man is trying to rule the world by force this man is trying to destroy it. Palpatine was evil he got the senate to let him take over and become a dictator sauron is just a dick trying to wreck everything (in the movie)

 

[PsykoDragon]

We're all used to getting the same/better rewards if you play it good in a game.

 

[Nieroshai]

Gamers, I would think, usually play BOTH sides because they usually want to experience BOTH endings. Unless they just rent the game instead of buying it, in which case they only have time for one ending.
That, and Peter Molyneux made it a bit too easy to be good. And anyways, all you have to do to go straight to the evil ending no matter what your alignment is to kill your sister at the end of the game. That is pretty much the only part of the game that reflects an actual life-or-death moral choice, and we already got good-or-evil karma systems from Dark Forces 2, back when it was a new feature.Also, Molyneux needs to actually deliver on what he promises, and not scratch his head at gamers when his incomplete concept doesn't get the mesage across.^click only if you haven't seen the Fully Ramblomatic Fable review.

 

[Kinguendo]

Well, when I bad rep'd him it said he was from America and why would a democrat say racist things about thier President? And why shouldnt I take what he said on faith? Why would he pretend to be racist by being racist? Its not cool to be racist.

not all democrats necessarily voted for obama. im just saying that due to the anonymity provided online you cant be sure of anything.

On XBOX Live... he had all of his information on there, I cant remember his name but he was from the bible belt. He was being a racist, not because of annonymity, but because he was a racist tool.