Moments when you stop taking the villian seriously.

[Mr. Omega]

There are great villians. We know this. But sometimes they do some stupid shit that just makes you stop thinking of them as a serious villian. Sure, they're a threat, but they'll be beaten. The question is, has this happened to you, which villian(s), and when did it happen? This applies to all forms of media, my first two examples of three are from games, that's all.

1: Dr. Wily.
After beating him 10 times consecutively in the classic series alone, I doubt in the classic series ANYONE takes Wily seriously anymore. But when did I stop taking him seriously. I'd have to say Megaman 4, for one reason. Even though there was a new villian, I thought 'Wily's behind this.' At this point, it's all become predictable.

2: Bowser.
This is a tough one to pinpoint when. Sure, he was in Mario Kart, but those games aren't the whole "Good vs Evil" thing. He teamed up with Mario in Mario RPG, but he had his own motives. He wasw even reduced to basic comic relief in Paper Mario, but established himself by beating you at the start. I'd have to say I stopped thinking Bowser was the "Big bad guy" in Sunshine. Why? He was in full-villian mode, and was giant... in a freakin' bathtub. You fight Bowser in a freakin' bathtub. POINT OF NO RETURN!-_-

3: Light Yagami.
LET ME EXPLAIN! This moment happened right around the end, when he did the evil laugh in front of everyone. I knew this meant one thing: he'd fall into the basic evil monologue, get stopped, and flouder about in failures and then die. A few minutes later, he's on his back in a pool of his own blood with a guy pointing a gun at his face. Maybe it was the fact that I knew he was going to lose, and that it was the final episode, but let's face it, when you know defeat is imminent, you stop taking the villian seriously.

 

[hyperhammy]

I never take villians seriously... they're boring.
Unless it's a drama or horror game it goes like this:
Villian does something -> hero steps in to stop him / correct what he has done -> happy end

 

[theComposer]

Zant in LoZ: Twilight Princess. He was a cool, badass villain up until you encounter him in the Twilit Palace, when he starts flailing around and whining like a baby.

 

[Garrsus]

3: Light Yagami.
LET ME EXPLAIN! This moment happened right around the end, when he did the evil laugh in front of everyone. I knew this meant one thing: he'd fall into the basic evil monologue, get stopped, and flouder about in failures and then die. A few minutes later, he's on his back in a pool of his own blood with a guy pointing a gun at his face. Maybe it was the fact that I knew he was going to lose, and that it was the final episode, but let's face it, when you know defeat is imminent, you stop taking the villian seriously.

but is light really the villain he is doing it for justice (well his thought of it)
the same as l, near and chief (lights dad)

ot: I know what you mean bowser did degrade himself from the originals also he has heat proof skin falling in lava like that so often.

 

[WraithPrince]

but is light really the villain he is doing it for justice (well his thought of it)
the same as l, near and chief (lights dad)

At the beginning of the show he was doing it for justice but after awhile you can tell he start to just want to become a god like figure in his new world.

 

[ssgt splatter]

Usually when they have a terrible evil laugh or they get so wrapped up in their "success" or monologue that they fail to notice things that are blantenly obvious; best example that I can think of is Frank Fontaine at the end of Bioshock...and since the game has been out for three years by now, if you haven't played it yet then you aren't going to so...when he knocks you down to the floor and starts talking about how he sent you to the surface, brought you back to show what you were, what you were capable of and that life you thought you had which was something he just made up and had implanted in your head and blah blah blah, he doesn't notice the 10 or so Little Sisters comming out of the vent behind him, very noisy too, and stick him with their needles. A real life Goliath is brought down by someone smaller than David. I loved the game all the way up to that point. Now don't get me wrong, I loved the boss fight with Fontaine it was just that little thing afterward that sort of made it feel like I was cheated a little bit.

 

[Tibike77]

With a bit of game genre-savvyness, you end up stop taking almost every villain serious long before the game is over.

The discussion would be so much better if we decided to go the other way around... namely, telling which villain you HAVEN'T stopped taking seriously at some point before "the final battle".

 

[RyanKaufman]

You know why I don't take any villain seriously? Because if they're obviously the villain, then it's obvious what they're going to do, and subsequently, there is no serious tone with them. Bowser I never took seriously because he looked so stupid in the early 3D games which were the first Mario games I played. Honestly, if I don't know who the villain is, and then he kills the main character (I'd let you try to guess 4 games that have this) then if there's a sequel with him/her/it in it, I'd definitely take them seriously. Unfortunately, I haven't found that. Oh and no, not the bullshit "Who's controlling you?" "It is me Spiderman!" "Doc Oc? You're behind this?" and then Venom attacks Carnage. If you understand the reference, hooray, if you don't, oh well.

 

[enzilewulf]

When he has shot you twice and you don't die.... Lucien... And when their plot is kill every thing or control the world. Its like do you really have no other motives except greed? That or when the villain keeps doing the same stuff over again. Bowser. That or when they have a name that sounds like I am looking for a file on the PC or the name of the internet box.Browser Bowser**

 

[Blueruler182]

The evil laugh. Or the death fortress. When you design a fortress of doom using gothic designs, Superman is gonna bust in there and kick your ass. And the laugh... I do that satanic laugh in Halo when I'm kicking ass, I kind of doubt some super intelligent mastermind with plans for world dominance would take the time out to laugh his ass off. I mean, when it's a psychotic, like the Joker or Green Goblin, it works, but when it's a sane person laughing about your defeat, it's just... meh.

Oh, and over convoluted schemes without any reason. I like it when the schemes have a point, Not just...

Spoiler

 

[faspxina]

- What is a man?
- ... wait what?

Spoiler

 

[stranamente]

When, the writers, to demonstrate he's evil, make him kill one of his minions, without a real reason.
And this:

When all he wants to do is blow up the world or kill everyone. I really like when villains have more motivation then just genocide or power. They're fine as concepts for villainous usage, but unless there is more motivation behind them when applied to a villains main focus then ''just because'', then it usually kills it for me.

 

[Jasper Jeffs]

When the hero says "why are you doing this?" and the villain responds "oh, silly ignorant mortal". The writer wants you to think the villain has some epic, evil plan. When really, the villain doesn't even have a fucking plan, he's just creates a problem and the hero fixes it, creating entertainment. How fucking lazy.

 

[ReaperzXIII]

When you look at one of their minions and ask yourself: Why isnt he the main villain? I mean seriously this guy is freaking epic but his boss is meh at best

 

[Outright Villainy]

When all he wants to do is blow up the world or kill everyone. I really like when villains have more motivation then just genocide or power. They're fine as concepts for villainous usage, but unless there is more motivation behind them when applied to a villains main focus then ''just because'', then it usually kills it for me.

This, exactly this. If a Villain is just evil for the sake of it, then they become a cartoon character, and not a human.

In fact, probably my favourite "villain" ever is

Spoiler: Watchmen spoilers

Veidt, who's a good guy, kinda. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WellIntentionedExtremist]

It doesn't matter how threatening they are, If I can't believe they're a real person, they suck as a villain.

 

[MissPixxie]

When all he wants to do is blow up the world or kill everyone. I really like when villains have more motivation then just genocide or power. They're fine as concepts for villainous usage, but unless there is more motivation behind them when applied to a villains main focus then ''just because'', then it usually kills it for me.

Pretty much this.

The 'just because' attitude kills it for me because no one REALLY does anything 'just because', there has to be some motive to drive them to that much effort surely!

 

[The Arc of Eden]

When they fall into those cliches like the evil monologue. Especially if they make the character comedic. It's okay for him to provide something funny to the table, but when they make him an idiot you know he's gonna be defeated "Team Rocket" Fashion. You know where he appears in a later seen clenching his fists claiming revenge.