When the villain is cold calculating and hahaha foolish hero i am one step ahead.That doesn't make him feel genuine.Its scarier when he has actual emotions like normal human beings which makes him alittle bit less predictable which i would say is more threatening.Everyone has some reason for doing what they do and if they're so intelligent and calculating they have concrete reasons for doing something which doesn't make them look like a villain but like someone who's mislead.
I literally just watched that movie a few hours ago, one of my personal favorites.
OT: I generally can't take most villains seriously, because they either have poor motivations or they have a really stupid plan. Both of which annoy me greatly. I want to see a game or movie where the villain actually wins sometime, and not a game where you play as the villain.
When a "bad guy" 180s so many times you become rather dizzy *looks at Sylar from Heroes*
Also, the daleks in series 4 of doctor who, when defeated at the end, were made to look utterly silly. That really pissed me off. Seriously Russell T Davies, waht the hell were you thinking? You work for 3 series establishing these guys as virtually unstoppable killing machines, then you pull this shit? Grah...
I literally just watched that movie a few hours ago, one of my personal favorites.
OT: I generally can't take most villains seriously, because they either have poor motivations or they have a really stupid plan. Both of which annoy me greatly. I want to see a game or movie where the villain actually wins sometime, and not a game where you play as the villain.
The only villains I've ever taken seriously were Saren and Soveriegn(Mass Effect) and The Joker from the Dark Knight. I mean come on! The Joker didn't even have a destroy world agenda, he just screwed with people's heads and was different from every other villain, heck yes to Heath Ledger.
Jasper batt jr, for me it's when I first saw his face and saw a baby head with a giant pizza tattoo on his face or it's when he falls off his skyscraper and becomes a giant parade float to try and kill you.
I stopped taking Darth Malak seriously the moment he said "Wipe this pathetic planet from the face of the galaxy!" Gratuitous acts of genocide (planet-cide?) may serve to establish villains as EVUHL, but they also tend to establish them as clowns.
In Rogue Galaxy Seed struck fear into my heart at every turn, he was able to kick my ass, and hold his own with Desert Claw, and when I thought I had to fight him on his own, as BEAST SEED ... I was scared to hell.
Then Jaster went all awesome and I was just like "Mirror Sword on, pwn pwn pwn."
Well there are a couple villains that I do not take seriously.
I'll explain one villain who I stopped taking seriously with the latest installment of the series, Albert Wesker.
Throught the Series Wesker is always manipulating the events from behind the scenes. He even goes as far as faking his own death just to gain more power (and British accent) and be able to escape from the mansion without anyone knowing.
He then uses Ada to get samples of the viruses and stays behind the scenes, working in the shadows to get what he needs. Even in Umbrella Chronicles, he is the reason Chris and Jill were able to accomplish their mission in Russia. And in 4, he stays at his base and uses Ada and Krauser to get the Las Plagas sample.
The 5 came out and they ruined his character. They changed him from manipulating the events from the shadows, to a power hungry super villain bent on destroying the world, and even made that one plot about how he was made by Umbrella or something. They took a cool, mysterious character, who used other people to get what he needs and would probably kill you when you were of no use, to a silly cartoon villain obsessed with power and his plan to destroy the world.
yea, too true, when he just decided that he was going for mass genocide, destroying the human race to save the earth, makes sense, but hes just really replacing them with parisites/zombies, which sucks even more than it is now, so yea crazy... also, to the creator of this thread, i always preffered L over light, but then he died and from then on the series every time light talked i just went WTF? you still havent won? and i knew cuz he was gonna die, otherwise it woulda ended after L died :3
When all he wants to do is blow up the world or kill everyone. I really like when villains have more motivation then just genocide or power. They're fine as concepts for villainous usage, but unless there is more motivation behind them when applied to a villains main focus then ''just because'', then it usually kills it for me.
this to 100xitself. i lose interest when i vilian stops being relatable ie goes crazy or has no motivation. I wanna see a villian who kills to save a loved one or something already!!
Play Fable 2, yes It has no real boss but Lucien is one of the best villians I have seen, his motivation, his corruption, and his goals, all nicely done.
When all he wants to do is blow up the world or kill everyone. I really like when villains have more motivation then just genocide or power. They're fine as concepts for villainous usage, but unless there is more motivation behind them when applied to a villains main focus then ''just because'', then it usually kills it for me.
I sort of agree in as much as if that's just a cheap writing device then yeah, but with a villain like the Joker, the fact that he's doing it for kicks and giggles ("What's the matter with you guys? It's like you don't want mutated giant babies crawling all over Gotham!") makes him that much creepier and fun.
When all he wants to do is blow up the world or kill everyone. I really like when villains have more motivation then just genocide or power. They're fine as concepts for villainous usage, but unless there is more motivation behind them when applied to a villains main focus then ''just because'', then it usually kills it for me.
More or less. Hell, thinking about villains and motivations like that when I was 11 is one of the things that started my philosophical streak (and, by a weird train of thought, got me into utilitarianism and beyond the notion that feelings are worthless).
When I learn they're headed by the Umbrella corpoation.
To be clear, when I see the enemy doing preposterous, unexplained things usually for little more reason than to piss off player characters. Case in point; the Empire in the Force Unleashed. I'm quite convinced that Palpatine is but a figurehead, at least at this point in the timeline, because I can't see him, in all his scheming, coming up with tearing open a Sarlacc to find a senator and a jedi located far outside it, allowing the construction of (for lack of a beter word) telekenetic AT-ATs (or is it AT-ST?) just in case laser cannons lack the power of high-velocity rocks and crates of the Empire's own expensive-looking equipment, or making the most impractical elevators I've ever seen in the end "room" of the super laser.
Here's how I think it went...
Commander:"My lord, this area, for all the instant-incerating megalasers, should probably be uninhabited except for maintenance droids, maybe some turrets for security."
Palpatine:"No, no, we should pack it with snipers and have the lasers going off every 30 seconds!"
C:"What?! Why?! How will they even get around with all these broken walkways and deadly beams?"
P:"You're right, send in stormtroopers on jetpacks!"
C:"Bwuh... Very well, my lord, I suppose the snipers can just use the elevators on the sides of-"
P:"We'll build two anti-gravity beams that lift people up and up to the ceiling, rather close to the beams, preferably."
C:"Someone could fall and-"
P:"Good thinking! We'll have two AT-ATs patrol the very bottom floor in case someone falls. Also, make a direct walkway to my throneroom in case I feel like looking out a different window into empty space, and make sure the door is extremley impractical, I want window watching to have suspense!"
C:"...My lord, you want us to have snipers, jetpack-mounted troops, and large robots patrolling the room no sane being would enter on the space station that only the suicidal would infiltrate?"
P:"Oh, bring in some droids that are nearly immune to the Force, too."
C:"The jedi are nearly gone, why wou-"
P:"Precisely! We must be ready for our mostly dead enemies now more than ever! Hop to it!"
(I apologize for the tangeant)
That's how Umbrella seems to think, inane scheme first, practicality or common sense never. When I see things like this, I don't care what my adversary's plot is, He's probably an idiot. (as I might be for inablity to stop thinking about what's going on at any point)
EDIT: This excludes the Joker and other legally insane villians. Though he may be a criminal mastermind, he might also be off his fucking rocker and making things up as he goes, as I suspect was the case in the end of Arkham Asylum.
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