More school, yay or nay?

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Phoenix Arrow

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cleverlymadeup said:
yeah cause 7 hours is such a long time, seriously that's nothing, try working 8-12 hours a day with maybe an hour off, do that for a few years and then come talk to me about how 9-4 with 1 hour is a bad thing

as for the topic on hand, i think it's a bit of both, they need more teaching AND a better quality of teaching.
Oh well, if we're going to play this game... I just started a university course. Some days I'm in from 10am to 10pm some days it's not so bad. But whatever, you're working a job right? So that means you're superior to people in education. Oh, did I also mention that I get 2 weeks of holiday in my first year and that I have to pay £20,000 for fees not including all the money I have to spend doing a 2 hour each way commute?
Well then. Don't pick on people because they're younger than you, I seem to remember Danny saying he worked a job as well but I wouldn't swear to it. He's also one of the few people I know that revised for GCSE exams.
Anyway, he didn't complain about how long the days are, what he said was they should move the hours around because you know what? It's not a job. It's a totally different thing and there's been research that's proven that you're less likely to learn things early in the morning and I'd be suprised if there hasn't been any research to support that you learn less when you learn in long chunks as opposed to smaller ones.
At my old 6th form, we used to have hour long lessons with a 5 minutes break in between them then a a 15 minutes break at 11ish and a 40 minute break at 1ish. I say used to, the principle left and the new guy got rid of these break as they weren't productive. Pass rates took a dive. I passed all mine though so it's aces.

On topic, America needs a better school system. No questions asked about that. I don't know how it's spread out these days but there needs to be a better standard of teaching in state schools. It's not right that people should be given a better education by financial standing like they do in America.
 

sabotstarr

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up to high school, learning should be practicle. learning basic skills for life such as math, language, and a basic coverage of work ethic and respect. The lengthening of school hours wont work. What would work is shifting, at least high school ours, a bit later in the day. This reasoning comes from the fact that i don't give a shit about what i'm learning at 7-10 in the morning, im just tired. If the school hours were from maybe 9-5 then i would be awake, and possibly a bit more productive.
 

RemoteControlRox

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The quality vs. quantity issue has already been addressed several times over, it seems.

If you've had to endure public education in Georgia, you know what a joke it can be.
 

BarkBark

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Vouchers vouchers vouchers!

I have yet seen a logical debate against them.

(Hopefully someone here will show me the opposing side)
 

The_Echo

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No, the hours shouldn't be longer. They should be later in the day. It's been shown that teenagers require more sleep than younger kids. I know I'm always alert to my fullest extent when I get a late start (This makes school start at 9:35 AM, as opposed to 7:35 for me.) If things were actually taught when my school had late starts, we'd do better on those days, surely. Instead of 7:35-2:25 (My regular school day), why not 9-4? About the same amount of schooling, with more alert students.

It might also help if the teachers were better at what they did. I nearly failed Algebra last year because my teacher sucked so much. Now that's affecting my geometry skills, since some of it carries over algebraic knowledge.
 

ejb626

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I supported Obama but damn, I do not want a longer school day I consider coming home a four to be a long day but fucking seven, for god sakes I agree with everyone else extending the school isn't going to do jack shit putting more funding into the value of education would probaly be a better idea. NAY
 

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Clashero said:
I was a victim of American public school for 2 years. Two wasted years, mind you. I got the worst possible education I could imagine. The coursework was piss-easy, the teachers were inept, and the students were idiots (HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO DO PERCENTAGES IN SEVENTH GRADE!?). Geography knowledge was, at best, atrocious. PE was a joke, since you were graded on "effort" solely, and not on ability, aptitude or skill at all. "Science" class was basically doing my 4th-5th grade Natural Sciences class again. All tests were multiple choice, even mathematics (as if it weren't easy enough to have a test on perimeters of basic geometric shapes in seventh grade).
You don't need more hours, you need to get better teachers, who'll make the children work hard and study their asses off.
Then you where not taking the right classes, you didn't care to try and get anything out of the system, didn't know how to, or where at one of the few schools that offers no advanced lesson plans.

I went to high school in Texas, should you want to you could skate by and earn what was basically a "went to school" degree. Or you could apply your self and graduate with honors as they called it. The level of education of the classes you had to take to graduate with honors was an a whole different level. I know I spent 3 years on that track before dropping out going to alternative (a work at your own pace type school)and completing the last year in three months. It was that easy because they did not offer the honors track in the alternative school.

Seriously you gotta work for your education here in the US, but most schools will allow you to excel and if you truly apply your self obtain a good education. We need to work on motivating kids to want the best education they can get, and start phasing out the easy classes.
 

sam13lfc

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He'd be hated by millions if he did that...thank god I don't live in America...and that I'm now in College, not school :D
 

Aqualung

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Rutawitz said:
Aqualung said:
Rutawitz said:
thats the dumbest idea i ever heard
Well, maybe if you went to school more, your spelling would improve. Just a thought.
ooo grammer. dont be too picky
Oh, I'm not being picky. I'm just mildly miffed that you're killing my native language. That's all.

Were English a person, she would lie weakly in a hospital bed, cursing the ailments that plagued her with wonderful words unbeknownst to you.
 

CptCamoPants

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The states make the decisions on matters of education. It's to avoid having all the kids be brainwashed, not that that's stopping anyone now.
 

MelziGurl

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It's not the childrens fault they are suffering from a lack of good education. How about re-educating the teachers instead?