Evaheist666 said:
Ok ok. maybe plagiarism would be the Wrong word. Nintendo is "self-cannibalizing" if that makes you any happier.
I've had WAAAY too many discussions and flame wars with Nintendo fanboys so I'm also not going to going to bother with your wall of flame. I'm just not seeing why a new Call Of Duty should raise so many cynical eyebrows when everybody's dying for the next mario game like it'll be doing anything different.
Oh, and BTW, the "you're so uninformed!!1" argument has gotten VERY old my friend. I've probably played more Nintendo games than you've played games from every other publisher so just stop with that "Do you even KNOW about *insert Nintendo game*?!" bullcrap. Please. Also stop with the all the paragraphs people. I'd rather spend the time reading a book.
self-cannibalizing I can accept. Because they are. But they are not plagiarizing which is what this topic is about. We know that they come up with a game title and try to shoehorn which of their Nintendo characters sells it best. Kirby's Epic Yarn and that one Star Fox game (Advetures?) are proof enough of that. I also think that's how Spirit Tracks came into being.
I'm not a Nintendo fanboy in any way. I'd like to think I'm not a fanboy of anything. I try to appreciate all games/media for what they are worth. I am a Nintendo fan. Unlike fanboys, I can also talk about when things I like are being stupid. But what I am is very picky about word choice. I would have done the same if you said Activision and Call of Duty, just an FYI. And you admitted, you picked the wrong word.
So we're in agreement then: Nintendo re-packages their old games and will literally place a "NEW" sticker on the box and fans just eat it up. And I talked about how Nintendo's use of their characters to reskin a game to increase sales is quite shady. Nintendo isn't plagiarizing their old game franchises. But Nintendo is bastardizing their old game franchises.
In the future, take like 5 minutes to explain your case because on the internet, I do not know how long you've been arguing this. All I can see is: LOL NINTENSUCK IS 4 BABIEZ!!!
And since I've got you here:
Games like Mario, Zelda, Call of Duty are what I categorize as safe games. Safe games, you know will be good and worth the full price. The difference is this: Let us look at the release dates of the past 4 games of main Zelda games (home consoles because Skyward Sword is not contrasted to Spirit Tracks) and Call of Duty:
Ocarina of Time (1998), Wind Waker (2002), Twilight Princess (2006), Skyward Sword (2011)
World at War (2008), Modern Warfare 2 (2009), Black Ops (2010), Modern Warfare 3 (2011)
With Zelda there is breather space in between each release. There has been time since people played the last Zelda game. You get a full game for the full price of the game.
With Call of Duty the games are released year after year after year. It gets annoying considering the campaign sucks (no one plays those games for the campaign; there is an option that will bring you to the multiplayer screen on start up). People play the game for the multiplayer and people do not like paying full price for a game that is essentially and patch and update. It is the same reason why people do not like Madden, or any of the sports games that have a big red changing number on the cover. Will MW3 be a good game? yeah, because it will just be a patch and update of Black Ops and that was a patch and update to MW2 and the only reason why people want MW3 is because they played MW2. They only have the campaign to justify the full price of the game.
People don't like Call of Duty, not because it doesn't change, but because it never leaves and asks full price. By the time there's a price drop, the next game has come out.