I'm going to say the 1984 is more depressing than Metro 2033, but not by much.
But both totally amazing books. It's also really nice to hear from other people that have read them. Don't usually get to have discussions with people about books which is a shame =/
With the main charecter sacrificing his future self so his past self does not have to go through what they did, Shifting the entire storyline onto a different charecter.
The most recent read of mine that I found depressing was Frozen Fire.
At the very end of the book, Dusty and the boy are cornered by an angry mob, and they are about to kill the boy for raping two girls. But it's revealed that he is incapable of rape for a reason I won't say, and everyone still wants to kill him. So he steals a van, drives it off a cliff, and drowns... and the Dusty almost ends up in the same mess the boy was in before she is rescued by her family. And all told, Dusty was right in saying that the boy had nothing to fear from the people anymore, and he ends it all anyway. For good reason, but still...
I highly recommend this book, because a lot of awesome stuff happens that this comment doesn't spoil.
With the main charecter sacrificing his future self so his past self does not have to go through what they did, Shifting the entire storyline onto a different charecter.
The most recent read of mine that I found depressing was Frozen Fire.
At the very end of the book, Dusty and the boy are cornered by an angry mob, and they are about to kill the boy for raping two girls. But it's revealed that he is incapable of rape for a reason I won't say, and everyone still wants to kill him. So he steals a van, drives it off a cliff, and drowns... and the Dusty almost ends up in the same mess the boy was in before she is rescued by her family. And all told, Dusty was right in saying that the boy had nothing to fear from the people anymore, and he ends it all anyway. For good reason, but still...
I highly recommend this book, because a lot of awesome stuff happens that this comment doesn't spoil.
It's implied, but among the other things he knows, it is also pretty plausible that he isn't.
Don't forget the foot-prints coming out of the lake at the end. Though Josh may have been found in the lake, I really can't make myself believe that the boy was Josh. Maybe he allowed Josh's body to be found to provide Dusty with her much-needed closure. He's done more amazing things. I just really don't feel like he was Josh.
I always find Voyage of Slaves (by Brian Jacques of Redwall fame)'s ending to be sad. Its one of three books that ever made my cry (I gave up crying a long time ago, its a waste of water over people who are dead and wouldnt want you to be sad because of it).
Small back story before you understand why its sad. Its about a boy and his labrador that were aboard the The Flying Dutchman when its crew was cursed. Because they were pure of heart, they were "spared" the evil fate, but are forced to live forever (or until the angel decides it doesnt need them anymore, I was always confused on that point), have to heed the Angel's call (pretty much means they cant settle anywhere permanently. though, when you're stuck as a teen that never grows older, its kinda hard to do that in general), and are given the understand any language as well as speak it fluently back. And the boy and his lab can talk telephathically.
Right then onto the sadness:
Ben (the boy), finally finds the girl he loves for ever and always will in what is a set time period of the pirates of carribean days. They are free from this... well... slave trader is the best way to put it I suppose, (or so they think) and Ben is just about to tell the girl (Serafina) why he cant be with her, even though she clearly loves him back the same he loves her. Well, long story short, the slave trader finds them, the (balcony?) thing they are on collapses. ben lives, but Serafina dies, and we're supposed to be happy that The Flying Dutchmen didnt take her soul (an equivalent to eternal damnation). Ben pretty much dies inside, but and while he is knocked unconscious he has a vision of the angel with Serafina (now an angel) and Serafina says she'll wait for him when he dies.
Remember, The boy is going to live eternally and pretty much has the power of god on his side, so he gets out of the most dangerous scrapes alive. yeah... it was really tragic since when i read it, my first gf that I Really loved had died, and now I'm dating a black girl (doesnt have much significance, but Serafina is black) and Serafina reminds me of my gf now.
With the main charecter sacrificing his future self so his past self does not have to go through what they did, Shifting the entire storyline onto a different charecter.
haha, that was amazing, especially considering your avatar bravo, sir, bravo!
for my own contribution, i'd have to cite the Mistborn trilogy...
The 2 main characters are both chopped to little itty bits at the end...by a former friend. I found it really sad, despite the fact that they're basically reincarnated as gods.
i've read a lot of other books with depressing endings over the years, but that's one of the more recent, so it came to mind first.
ohh, and pretty much every book in George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire ends depressingly, but then again, they're mostly depressing throughout. they're just damn good, though.
The most recent read of mine that I found depressing was Frozen Fire.
At the very end of the book, Dusty and the boy are cornered by an angry mob, and they are about to kill the boy for raping two girls. But it's revealed that he is incapable of rape for a reason I won't say, and everyone still wants to kill him. So he steals a van, drives it off a cliff, and drowns... and the Dusty almost ends up in the same mess the boy was in before she is rescued by her family. And all told, Dusty was right in saying that the boy had nothing to fear from the people anymore, and he ends it all anyway. For good reason, but still...
I highly recommend this book, because a lot of awesome stuff happens that this comment doesn't spoil.
It's implied, but among the other things he knows, it is also pretty plausible that he isn't.
Don't forget the foot-prints coming out of the lake at the end. Though Josh may have been found in the lake, I really can't make myself believe that the boy was Josh. Maybe he allowed Josh's body to be found to provide Dusty with her much-needed closure. He's done more amazing things. I just really don't feel like he was Josh.
It is quite an interesting story. In fact, I wrote a paper on it for my English class last year, discussing the possible reasons for the boy's existence, and what he could be. Certainly left me wanting more after I close the book.
Oh, I forgot about movies. For that, I have to say Pan's Labyrinth.
Ophelia, the young protagonist, escapes forever into the fantasy which had enabled her to endure the brutality and inhumanity of the Spanish Civil War, as a result of a fatal gunshot wound.
Assassin's Apprentice series was a medium fantasy book all in all. the Hero had to struggle his entire life and at the end i was thinking he would be rewarded after it all, and get the life he wanted.
and let me say i have never been so gloom after Finishing reading a book. it made me cry and start drinking wiskey for the night
Stephen King's 'Dark Tower' series ended on a rather down note.
With the whole killing the kid, again, and also killing Eddie. Granted Susanna travels to another reality where she meets up with them as kids, but that just felt weird. Also the whole 'you just read seven books only to find out the story loops back and doesn't finish' both depressed and pissed me off.
She met with a same (or close to) Eddie who was Now Jake's older brother instead of the younger brother of stoner, all-around-fuck-up-in-life Henry. She then gets a token gesture of kindness from Eddie, hinting to how she knew him well and we're led to assume (hopefully) that things work out as they did in Roland's (dimension?) realm of reality or at the very least the two are very good friends. And that Jake gets the happy childhood he always wanted of having a brother who cares for him and gives him attention.
Though to be fair, I dont think there has evere really been a positive ending Stephen King book outside of Eyes of a Dragon(? might of that title mixed up a little, but thats close to it), and that was cause he wrote that (well, told it really, then wrote it), as a fairy tale to one of his kids (I think his daughter).
Besides, I find the real ending (Coda) the be much more Depressing:
Roland climbs to the top of the tower and enters the door labeled for him. He gets taken to the beginning of the first book (The Gunslinger), and the story ends exactly as it begins, with Roland making the trip he's made hundreds, thousands, millions, etc. times before, with the only glimmering hope of change being he has the Horn of Eld this time. His friends are still dead, He'll still go through the same trials and sadness, His lover is still burned at the tree, and the only thing different is he has a godforsaken horn to take on his godforsaken journey through all manners of hell a human can experience in the hopes that this trip ends differnet, when he could go through another hundred, thousand, million, etc. trips till it finally ends. All iwthout the knowledge of the trip, ways to avoid the pain and hurt.
Yeah... Sorry, Big fan of the Dark Tower Series and it bugged me slightly when i saw that.
<spoiler= DONT CLICK ME UNLESS YOU LIKE TO BE SPOILED> after reading it I just kinda sat there. Thinking to myself "How something like that happen to a girl as lively as her." The way it happened was even worse. Using their escape from the real world, she ultimately escaped it forever. Damn they should never make a movie of this.
<spoiler= DONT CLICK ME UNLESS YOU LIKE TO BE SPOILED> after reading it I just kinda sat there. Thinking to myself "How something like that happen to a girl as lively as her." The way it happened was even worse. Using their escape from the real world, she ultimately escaped it forever. Damn they should never make a movie of this.
Oh, I forgot about movies. For that, I have to say Pan's Labyrinth.
Ophelia, the young protagonist, escapes forever into the fantasy which had enabled her to endure the brutality and inhumanity of the Spanish Civil War, as a result of a fatal gunshot wound.
emeraldrafael: not surprised, my opinion of Jacques as an author is pretty low so he probably pulled that out because he ran out of narriative/dramatic options
Anyway, I've just realised - with something of an :-O reaction - that this was probably 90% of the stuff that my high school english teacher fed us...
The Shakespeare we did?
Romeo and Juliet
Possibly the most famous tragedy of all time, where the two rebel, runaway lovers from feuding houses arrange to meet in exile; the first one to arrive has taken a drug that makes her appear dead, so she can escape her family's clutches and build a new identity... however it also fools her boyfriend, who commits suicide at the site of her "deathbed" rather than live without her; she then awakes, finds him dead by his own hand, and kills herself with the same knife. The outcome is seemingly positive, because it ends the family feud and tons of other bloodshed, but still ... DAMN
Macbeth
Pretty much everyone dies, except the sons of (murdered) King Macduff, after having a shitty time of it all, being driven mad by various visions and hallucinations. It is largely a tale of people getting their just deserts, but it's still bleak.
And a few others, though we missed certain classics that could otherwise be cited like 1984, Animal Farm, Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird etc. The details may be a touch shaky (as for the Shakey above) because it's been up to fifteen years since the relevant lessons and I have no great desire to revisit these works. Heck, having sat through them may well explain my greater enjoyment instead of comedy material.
I Am The Cheese
A tale with a stupid title, that as it unfolds, proves to be told from the perspective of a teenage boy in a mental institution who's been driven completely insane as the result of seeing his parents die in a car accident that may or may not have been something to do with his father's intelligence service job. He doesn't get better. We basically have to assume he eventually dies there after a lifetime of inconsolable sorrow and delusional reliving of the fateful moment.
*title still not found* ... non-spoiler bits, in case anyone can ID it (i've asked before in a different thread ) - a girl survives the nuclear apocalypse because her family farm and gas station (eh?) is nestled in a secluded valley. The rest of them go off a couple of times to try and find out WTF has happened and gather supplies, and a seemingly russian soldier in an environment suit turns up, sick and exhausted, and stays with her....
Her family never returns, presumably having swiftly died of radiation poisoning in the outside world (this magical valley may as well be the windy one of Miyazaki lore), as have most other people because the last, desperate radio signals stopped a short time later, and the russian guy succumbs to madness from the things he's seen and experienced, having violent lucid dreams about a shelter he was in with some other guy - who it's implied he killed - then trying to rape and kill the narrator. She temporarily incapacitates him, steals his environment suit and heads out to wander the earth. The implication is she doesn't get very far and the book is her journal found by someone else some time later.
... still, could be worse, it's not exactly "On The Beach".
The Lord of the Flies
Man, fuck this book, right in its smug, overly-recommended face. Golding is a hack. And if you don't know what happens in it, let's keep it that way.
Oh, and pretty much anything by Thomas Hardy. The man had a melancholic streak a mile wide, must have been raised in a puritan household or something. And his language was far too verbose, makes me look like a txtspkr.
There were also a nice brace of WW1 poems, mainly from authors who died in the trenches... hoo boy.
I think I've forgotten more deeply depressing stuff from her lessons than I can actually remember. Not entirely sure what she was trying to do with us. But our year definitely turned out a high degree of wierd (but sublimely interesting) folks, so it probably worked.
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