Most ridiculous thing touted as "art"
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Art is all about opinion, as many Escapees have previously stated. One person's trash, another's treasure, right?
I agree that being so open is allowing a lot of idiots to make a lot of money for a lot of bullshit. But there are still, even amongst modern artists, really good pieces, that are made from simple things. Also, things that you see in reality are often MUCH more artistic that when you see a replica in a boom or an a screen.
EDIT: In case you want an example, check out Cildo Meireles room of numbers. It has loads of clocks and rulers and magnetic numbers everywhere. It's pretty epic. It was here at the Tate, and was pretty awesome, anyways, see if you can find some images. I could, unfortunately, not. But then I didn't really look. http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/cildomeireles/about.shtm
I agree that being so open is allowing a lot of idiots to make a lot of money for a lot of bullshit. But there are still, even amongst modern artists, really good pieces, that are made from simple things. Also, things that you see in reality are often MUCH more artistic that when you see a replica in a boom or an a screen.
EDIT: In case you want an example, check out Cildo Meireles room of numbers. It has loads of clocks and rulers and magnetic numbers everywhere. It's pretty epic. It was here at the Tate, and was pretty awesome, anyways, see if you can find some images. I could, unfortunately, not. But then I didn't really look. http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/cildomeireles/about.shtm
Minimalist paintings are not art, in my opinion. Anyone can draw a circle or a square on a piece of paper and attach any silly hidden meanings to it and when you call them out on it they scoff at you and say you just don't get it. I wish I could remember who it was or the whole story, but there was once a guy who wrote a fake book about a fake artist and a bunch of art critics came together and talked about how much they appreciated his work even though he didn't exist... which basically is a real life Emperor's New Clothes and destroys the credibility of most art critics who pretend they understand the deeper philosophical meanings of a white canvas with some red lines on it.
What's worse is that garbage is considered art while people just write stuff like this off as silly:
That's more art than anything you could find in a museum.
What's worse is that garbage is considered art while people just write stuff like this off as silly:
That's more art than anything you could find in a museum.
Personally, great attention to detail that manifests in a message is art. All else is sport. Drawing a fracking filled black rectangle is just so NOT full of art... it's incomprehensible. I can be pumping this shit all day. Where's mastery in this?
Message? Ok. Great attention to detail? Not so much.
Message? Ok. Great attention to detail? Not so much.
However, just because it is art doesn't mean someone should pay $1,000,000 for it. I think the big mistake is putting the word "art" on a pedestal. It should be more mundane, like "tool" or "mammal". Ironically, despite your intentions, sadfhyjmdgrw/adsc vxbdekjwa/dhuv could be considered a creative commentary on the sad state of people and modernism. Congradulations! You just made art.Demented Teddy said:
I would never pay for a painting such as that, mostly because artists are generally egotistical assholes who think their work is worth millions when really art should be something that is more free than the air we breathe, but as a painting, I think it's quite beautiful.Doinstuffman38 said:Like Jackson Pollock?Demented Teddy said:
Autumn Rhythm... Yep... it's a "painting".
If something inside him just clicked one day and said "you NEED to go and throw a fuck load of paint at a massive piece of canvas" either as a stress reliever or a form of self expression, why not? As long as it comes from somewhere pure and honest, I have no problems with any of it.
It's just when it starts to become all about THE DAILY STRUGGLE OF TEH MODERN SOCIETIEZ HURRDURRR and it's a chair painted white in a room full of lobotomised jack russels then I get pissed off. Fuck pretense.
I however, whether you dislike or like that painting, defy you to call it pretentious.
I've heard people call video games art. Pfah, what idiots.
Kidding. Anyway, to quote Yahtzee, you can wipe your ass with a page of Megaman sprites and there's still someone on Comics Genesis who'll say its brilliant. That being said, you could probably bring up a blank canvas and if you make insightful comments about it you can sell it to just about anyone.
Kidding. Anyway, to quote Yahtzee, you can wipe your ass with a page of Megaman sprites and there's still someone on Comics Genesis who'll say its brilliant. That being said, you could probably bring up a blank canvas and if you make insightful comments about it you can sell it to just about anyone.
IcyEvils said:OT, we also had to do a study of this joker's art- Sean Scully. He pumps out this tripe all year and gets lauded for it.
In my opinion, at least this stuff has some aesthetic value. Sure, you can say "anyone can do this" but the fact is, no one else did. Some of this abstract art I think doesn't have to have any meaning behind it, though I bet it usually does, but if someone can look at it and say "That's pleasing to the eye" then I think it's worth it. Hell, even to some extent, the "squares" mentioned earlier could be interesting to look at, but I'm kinda wary of them.Soylent Bacon said:I saw a "work of art" hanging up outside a theatre before that just had rectangles. I don't remember specifically how many, but it was around two or three rectangles. They had primary colors. The whole picture was about the size of a sheet of notebook paper. Give me a break.
Actually, it might have been this:
Selling your own crap in a jar though... No. Just no.
i once saw a gray suit hanging on the wall of the museum of modern art. that one threw me for a second. it was supposed to be about how "empty" corporate america is, but it was just a suit, hanging on a wall.
