Most Tragic Villain
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Jaime Lannister(Game of Thrones)
He starts off quite the dick but after a certain incident(in the books, won't see it on tv for a few years), he gains a new perspective and grows a sense of guilt along with what could be called honor. He still deserves to die, and he recognizes that and accepts it, now I'll feel slightly bad about him dying. I still completely hate Cersei though.
He starts off quite the dick but after a certain incident(in the books, won't see it on tv for a few years), he gains a new perspective and grows a sense of guilt along with what could be called honor. He still deserves to die, and he recognizes that and accepts it, now I'll feel slightly bad about him dying. I still completely hate Cersei though.
I was actually thinking about Zuko, he's a villainweker said:
for most of it. But Azula definitely fits too, in fact most of the villains do. The Firelord who started the war, dreamed of using the Fire Nations might to better the whole world, Mai and Ty Lee, who are basically only villains because they're "brainwashed" by the fire nation, eventually Mai stops Azula killing Zuko and the Avatar and then Ty Lee stops Azula killing Mai... Problem with this show is most of the villains stop being villains lol. But seriously, how great is the characterisation of basically every single person in Avatar?
There's actually a few in Naruto. Gaara, for a while. Although most of his tragic backstory is revealed after he's a good guy. Kimimaro. Haku, definitely Haku. Ummm. There's some kid in the filler, he hangs out with this big guy who channels lightning. He has an amazing eyesight ability. If you've seen it you probably know who I'm talking about. So yeah, Naruto's good for that.
I think that's all I've got that hasn't already been said.
Many of Metal Gear's villains, but by far my favorites were The Boss, Sniper Wolf and Psycho Mantis.
I can't say much about MGS4 villains as I haven't played that game yet, but those were the most interesting and tragic villains so far.
Especially Sniper Wolf, one of those moments were I literally shed a tear.
I can't say much about MGS4 villains as I haven't played that game yet, but those were the most interesting and tragic villains so far.
Especially Sniper Wolf, one of those moments were I literally shed a tear.
Yeah, I know, I was actually one of those disgruntled fans before it came out, "WHAT PaPER MARIO = RPG, WAT IZ ThIS CrRAP!" Then, I, you know, played it. Can't wait for the return to form though in Paper Mario 3D. Well, Romeo & Juliet can't help, but be a template for more complicated stories, then again I think it was based off an older even simpler story...Semudara said:
I knew I forgot a Primarch from those stories, sneaky little Alpharius...Nouw said:
Yeah, the whole Heresy is pretty much the biggest tragedy I've read about in a sci-fi setting. So much information lost during the civil war on Mars, the hopes of mankind ruling the stars alone forever gone, the Emperor's son's fighting one another as legion turns against legion in bloody combat....
Sorry if I got a little prose there, just the Heresy is like Nouw said, just one great tragedy taking place across the stars.
Ah, yes. Went insane, took a bunch of Green Lantern rings to fight the enemy and eventually his mind collapsed...magnuslion said:
Aribeth from Neverwinter Nights. The girl served almost all of her life to Tyr as his Paladin, only to be turned evil and have her spirit broken, then sent to Hell after death...
Lelouch from Code Geass can count too. All he wanted is for the Japanese to be free, without living in fear every day. It kiiiinda worked out bad for him. Ultimate sacrifice, you might say. He went from Hero to Z... Villain in about 2 episodes.
You didn't try to make it tragic enough. Remember Lucifer was an angel, and doesn't have free will. That's what makes it tragic.chaosyoshimage said:
Yeah, I honestly apologize for my crappy comment. I should have went into some semblance of detail.vxicepickxv said:
From the series I can remember I would say that Suigintou from Rozen Maiden counts. She's absolutely my favorite villain ever[footnote]besides
<-----------[/footnote] and she's really my favorite character in that entire show. I don't really think of Ryan as a villian though. Fontaine was more villianous.
<-----------[/footnote] and she's really my favorite character in that entire show. I don't really think of Ryan as a villian though. Fontaine was more villianous.
I feel Arthas was one.He was doing everything he thought was right to save his kingdom from an undead infestation and basically lost his mind and was finally corrupted by the same evil he was trying to stop and in the end became that same evil and finally destroyed his kingdom, killed his father, lost his love and in the end his life
I'm still only on Legion at the moment, so I can't speak for the other legions. They really make the Wolves out to be bad guys? Damn, I loved those guys.dalek sec said:
I notice someone else also mentioned Alpharius as being pretty tragic, though I've still got about 100 pages to get there yet. Really need to finish that now.
But yeah, I'd also third the notion that the entire Heresy is indeed tragic, seeing as the entire thing is just based on lies and half truths that ultimately screwed everyone over in the worst ways possible. None of the primarchs was inherently "bad" to start with, (well, maybe Angron, but that's what happens when you get drugs pumped into your brain to make you more vicious in a gladiatorial arena), they were all just tricked and/or misguided.
Religion?chaosyoshimage said:
OT: You know what? I'm going to say the wicked witch of the west. Having a house dropped on your sister, being taunted by your enemy, and having your deceased relatives body desecrated while stealing thier shoes would make me a little bitchy to.