Where was I Jim?
Not giving a fuck and enjoying Hook for the fun movie it is, that's where I was.
Not giving a fuck and enjoying Hook for the fun movie it is, that's where I was.
Movie Defense Force: Hook
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wait this was seen as a bad movie. it was a wile sens I saw it but I remember liking it. never heard anyone not liking it.
Whenever there was a long road trip in my youth, I always took my portable DVD player with me. It was an easily-jolted little bastard with a battery that seemed to be entirely cosmetic for all the good it did when unplugged, but I loved that thing. Hook was always my go-to movie on those rides. It looked gorgeous, Robin Williams was reined in enough to be playing a character other than Robin Williams, the kids were acceptable (which is well above average for most child actors), Rufio's hair is the stuff of legend, and Dustin Hoffman kindled my lifelong secret desire to run away from civilized society and become a pirate. That desire has never gone away.
I dunno, it's not really an excellent film overall. It's quite structurally flawed and Tinkerbell is horribly miscast. There are a few moments that could have used a bit more polish in the scripting. But it's incredibly watchable. Dustin Hoffman, Bob Hoskins and Robin Williams all show incredible timing with their lines and aside from a few moments where the script gets messy, the directing is pretty spot on.
I'd give it a solid 7/10. Not great, but fun and watchable. There's worse out there.
I'd give it a solid 7/10. Not great, but fun and watchable. There's worse out there.
Where were we? Personally, I was busy worrying about my maths test the day after we went to see it.
It was twenty years ago. I doubt I could form a coherent critique of a movie back then, let alone defend it from anyone saying it was bad. Mind you, I never did hear anyone saying it was bad.
It was twenty years ago. I doubt I could form a coherent critique of a movie back then, let alone defend it from anyone saying it was bad. Mind you, I never did hear anyone saying it was bad.
I like how Jim spent three and a half minutes defending Hook and then shows a scene that pointedly illustrates just how terrible the movie was.
Yeah, "this didn't need defending", because there's nothing to defend. It's awful. I watched it as a kid, and I actually credit it with being the first movie to make me think about whether what I was watching was any good.
Yeah, "this didn't need defending", because there's nothing to defend. It's awful. I watched it as a kid, and I actually credit it with being the first movie to make me think about whether what I was watching was any good.
Hook was my childhood. I really loved this film when I was a kid and although as an adult I recognize it's faults (like Tinkerbell literally growing up and never mentioning it ever again) I still highly enjoy it as a guilty pleasure, to this day, it's still one of the best "The Chosen Zero" (according to TV Tropes) films I've ever seen.
Also, how can you not love Rufio in all his 90's glory?
Also, how can you not love Rufio in all his 90's glory?
I recently rented this for my five year old who is into Peter Pan at the moment and because it was one of my favorites. I looked at the scores and critic ratings and was surprised how low it was. I watched it again and I loved it still, however, both me and my wife were surprised how different the movie was to us as adults vs when we watched it as kids.
When I watched it as a kid I was more into the Lost Boys story and rooting for Peter Pan to remember what it was like to be them again. It would be cool to have a dad who gets being a kid and all that side of the story.
When I watched it as a father myself, I saw it more from the adult Peter Pan's side. It wasn't about being young, it was about finding a connection with your son. It was a completely different movie and lesson for me.
With that said, I wonder if I watched the movie only as an adult and not really had the perspective of the kid's view first, if I would have found it a little shallow. Maybe that is why critics didn't like the move....they never watched it as a Lost Boy. Without that perspective, I'm not sure it was really that good for adults....
/shrug
When I watched it as a kid I was more into the Lost Boys story and rooting for Peter Pan to remember what it was like to be them again. It would be cool to have a dad who gets being a kid and all that side of the story.
When I watched it as a father myself, I saw it more from the adult Peter Pan's side. It wasn't about being young, it was about finding a connection with your son. It was a completely different movie and lesson for me.
With that said, I wonder if I watched the movie only as an adult and not really had the perspective of the kid's view first, if I would have found it a little shallow. Maybe that is why critics didn't like the move....they never watched it as a Lost Boy. Without that perspective, I'm not sure it was really that good for adults....
/shrug
Where were we? I was a kid, in the theater watching Hook. As I was only 4 years old at the time I couldn't do much defending.... SO WHERE WERE YOU JIM? Do you have the "I was a 4 year old" defense? I don't think so.... See, its your fault. I blame you.
But seriously it did win best actor at the kids choice awards. So, kids obviously liked it... And defended it. Remember when we did our Kids Choice Awards voting by filling out ballots at Burger King? Now they just do it online....
Question: Since I only ever watch Nickelodeon for Legend of Korra nowadays, can someone tell me does the Kids Choice Awards still exist? The last time I actually watched the thing was the KCA before the premiere of Sponge Bob. I know Rosie O'Donnell doesn't host it anymore... She lost that job when she told everyone she was gay... In the 90's I guess that was a bigger deal, I don't think anyone cares anymore....
But seriously it did win best actor at the kids choice awards. So, kids obviously liked it... And defended it. Remember when we did our Kids Choice Awards voting by filling out ballots at Burger King? Now they just do it online....
Question: Since I only ever watch Nickelodeon for Legend of Korra nowadays, can someone tell me does the Kids Choice Awards still exist? The last time I actually watched the thing was the KCA before the premiere of Sponge Bob. I know Rosie O'Donnell doesn't host it anymore... She lost that job when she told everyone she was gay... In the 90's I guess that was a bigger deal, I don't think anyone cares anymore....
I was always partial to the Three Musketeers, mostly for Tim Curry, but Oliver Platt was a joy as well. While I know it strayed from the actual story (in that way Disney often does) it is still one of my favorites. Oh and I will trade Julia Roberts for Rebecca De Mornay any day of the week.Loki_The_Good said:
I never stopped liking Hook, even though I stopped liking Robin Williams.
And, y'know what? Screw Rotten Tomatoes. That crap has never been in line with my tastes... not really. When I heard that it even HAD a rating, my first thought was "Who the hell do they think they are reviewing a movie that came out long before the website existed." But I went and looked up some of these reviews. Most of them are roll-your-eyes trollish piles of garbage:
"Hook breaks the cardinal rule of J.M. Barrie's timeless fantasy -- it grows up."
"Bottom of the barrel Spielbergiana"
"It should have been great but it just doesn't have enough magic dust to fly."
"No matter how much cash Hook earns, it will take more than pixie dust to fly this overstuffed package into our dreams."
"Spielberg gives in to his worst tendencies, and turns Peter Pan into a day-glo mess."
I hate most movie critics but this is stupid at best. Rotten Tomatoes is only good for telling us which movies are prime oscar bait.
And, y'know what? Screw Rotten Tomatoes. That crap has never been in line with my tastes... not really. When I heard that it even HAD a rating, my first thought was "Who the hell do they think they are reviewing a movie that came out long before the website existed." But I went and looked up some of these reviews. Most of them are roll-your-eyes trollish piles of garbage:
"Hook breaks the cardinal rule of J.M. Barrie's timeless fantasy -- it grows up."
"Bottom of the barrel Spielbergiana"
"It should have been great but it just doesn't have enough magic dust to fly."
"No matter how much cash Hook earns, it will take more than pixie dust to fly this overstuffed package into our dreams."
"Spielberg gives in to his worst tendencies, and turns Peter Pan into a day-glo mess."
I hate most movie critics but this is stupid at best. Rotten Tomatoes is only good for telling us which movies are prime oscar bait.
I quite liked this movie when it came out. There's some stuff I still don't love about like Jim mentioned. Julia Roberts in this... bleurgh. I remember feeling some of the movie seemed a bit soft too... but I haven't watched it in ages (we're talking 10 years or so), so being a young teenager parts of it were probably not "cool" or gritty enough for me at the time.
It's a fun movie all in all and the sets are indeed pretty damn impressive.
I actually liked it enough to then buy the Amiga adventure game [http://hol.abime.net/735] based on the movie which also had a lukewarm reception, but which I again quite liked.
It's a fun movie all in all and the sets are indeed pretty damn impressive.
I actually liked it enough to then buy the Amiga adventure game [http://hol.abime.net/735] based on the movie which also had a lukewarm reception, but which I again quite liked.
Wanted to add my voice, too. Like everyone else here, I also really enjoyed the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCAHj85IWD8
I know what you mean MonkeyPunch, and for me it was the GameBoy version that I ended up playing. Here's a link to one of the songs - some really neat and catchy 8-bit chip-tune pirating goodness. Enjoy!!MonkeyPunch said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCAHj85IWD8