Movie Habits

[Mayhaps]

I was looking at the top grossing list at imdb and decided to do a quick check which were "original stories". Now I'm not talking about original as in not cliché but just not based on previous works. I was quite surprised. (look in spoiler)

Are we movie goers really so afraid of paying to see something new?
So my main question is, how often do you go and see movies that are not part of a franchise you know or books you've heard of?

Spoiler: My findings

EDIT: I should clarify, I'm not talking about how different the movies are from other peoples works, sorry I marked avatar. The point I was making is that it seems like people are only paying to see already established franchises (or whatever you want to call them).

I guess this is partly true for games as well.

 

[Rock-nerd]

A lot of times i see films i'm not keen on with my friends, most of the time i dislike them but they love it. So i try to stick to my favourites.

 

[IndomitableSam]

How is The Lion King not marked as plagarism? For either Kimba or Hamlet? There's a lot wrong with that table.

 

[Mayhaps]

How is The Lion King not marked as plagarism? For either Kimba or Hamlet? There's a lot wrong with that table.

It was a 10 minute mash-up. There could be more things I missed, I never heard that about the lion king though. What else is wrong?

 

[IndomitableSam]

Look up Kimba the White Lion, you'll see.

Mostly you just missed Sequel/Literature tags on some you already have tags for. Alice in Wonderland is marked as a series, not literature. That kind of thing. One of the Harry's is missing a tag, and A New Hope has none. Just little things.

I'm sure every movie took the idea from elsewhere, but that's what ideas are - ones gotten from elsewhere and changed slightly. Completley original ideas really don't exist anymore.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Look up Kimba the White Lion, you'll see.

Mostly you just missed Sequel/Literature tags on some you already have tags for. Alice in Wonderland is marked as a series, not literature. That kind of thing. One of the Harry's is missing a tag, and A New Hope has none. Just little things.

I'm sure every movie took the idea from elsewhere, but that's what ideas are - ones gotten from elsewhere and changed slightly. Completley original ideas really don't exist anymore.

A New Hope was the first Star Wars movie, it was original.

Pirates of the Caribbean isn't original though, it was based on a ride at Disneyland.

 

[IndomitableSam]

A New Hope was the first Star Wars movie, it was original.

Pirates of the Caribbean isn't original though, it was based on a ride at Disneyland.

The tag is for prequels, too. And I forgot about the ride.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

A New Hope was the first Star Wars movie, it was original.

Pirates of the Caribbean isn't original though, it was based on a ride at Disneyland.

The tag is for prequels, too. And I forgot about the ride.

...um, what?

A New Hope wasn't a prequel, it was the ORIGINAL Star Wars movie, the FIRST ONE.

 

[Forgetitnow344]

In a nutshell, people want quality first.

This. If the Avengers movie is as awesome as they want us to think it is (probably won't be), I really wouldn't care if it's existed in a thousand different mediums and interpretations.

 

[IndomitableSam]

A New Hope was the first Star Wars movie, it was original.

Pirates of the Caribbean isn't original though, it was based on a ride at Disneyland.

The tag is for prequels, too. And I forgot about the ride.

...um, what?

A New Hope wasn't a prequel, it was the ORIGINAL Star Wars movie, the FIRST ONE.

It is episode IV, though, so it could be considered for the brown tag, though. And George always knew there would be more movies.

Why are we even quibbling over this? I feel kinda stupid for doing so. I don't even like Star Wars.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

A New Hope was the first Star Wars movie, it was original.

Pirates of the Caribbean isn't original though, it was based on a ride at Disneyland.

The tag is for prequels, too. And I forgot about the ride.

...um, what?

A New Hope wasn't a prequel, it was the ORIGINAL Star Wars movie, the FIRST ONE.

It is episode IV, though, so it could be considered for the brown tag, though. And George always knew there would be more movies.

Why are we even quibbling over this? I feel kinda stupid for doing so. I don't even like Star Wars.

But when it was released it was an original idea, and wasn't part of a series yet. Plus, it only got dubbed Episode 4 25 years after it originally came out, so that really doesn't count.

 

[DoPo]

A New Hope was the first Star Wars movie, it was original.

Pirates of the Caribbean isn't original though, it was based on a ride at Disneyland.

The tag is for prequels, too. And I forgot about the ride.

...um, what?

A New Hope wasn't a prequel, it was the ORIGINAL Star Wars movie, the FIRST ONE.

It is episode IV, though, so it could be considered for the brown tag, though. And George always knew there would be more movies.

Why are we even quibbling over this? I feel kinda stupid for doing so. I don't even like Star Wars.

It's episode IV, because a dozen years ago, it was changed. For about two decades before that, it was episode I. It is not a sequel, if there was nothing in the franchise before it. It is not a prequel, if there was nothing in the franchise before it. Doesn't need the brown tag.

 

[HardkorSB]

A New Hope was the first Star Wars movie, it was original.

It ripped off a lot of 50's and 60's movies/TV shows so you can technically call it plagiarism.

It's episode IV, because a dozen years ago, it was changed. For about two decades before that, it was episode I.

I saw it no later than 1992 and it was Episode IV even then (it was strange to me because I couldn't find the previous episodes anywhere).

As for the question:
If you go to a doctor, do you choose the one that saved your ass/someone else's ass before or do you trust a newbie?
Yes, it is the same thing, only the aspect of life differs.

The only thing that can make people see a completely new movie with no recognizable actors/directors/producers/etc. is a good marketing campaign.
For example, "Blair Witch Project".

 

[Ignatz_Zwakh]

All the time. But then again, I do see plenty of films based on pre-existing works.

 

[Lionsfan]

People like what they know? That's my guess to this. And I'm not sure I like the plagiarism tag, given enough time you could theoretically find out that everything was based off of something else. Common themes don't make it plagiarism

 

[Melon Hunter]

People like what they know? That's my guess to this. And I'm not sure I like the plagarium tag, given enough time you could theoretically find out that everything was based off of something else. Common themes don't make it plagarism

Exactly. A brief unintentionally lengthy dive into TVTrope's archives will show you that there are common themes and tropes that link huge numbers of fictional works together. Yes, Avatar was a pretty straight mash-up of Dances With Wolves and Pocahontas in SPACE, but that doesn't really qualify it for plagiarism any more than the countless fantasy books that use the same initial setting of the hero being a clueless young man in a village in the arse-end of nowhere. Truly original settings are very, very rare and usually so off-the-wall not many people will like them, ironically because they can't really find anything to relate to it by.

 

[Lionsfan]

People like what they know? That's my guess to this. And I'm not sure I like the plagarium tag, given enough time you could theoretically find out that everything was based off of something else. Common themes don't make it plagarism

Exactly. A brief unintentionally lengthy dive into TVTrope's archives will show you that there are common themes and tropes that link huge numbers of fictional works together. Yes, Avatar was a pretty straight mash-up of Dances With Wolves and Pocahontas in SPACE, but that doesn't really qualify it for plagiarism any more than the countless fantasy books that use the same initial setting of the hero being a clueless young man in a village in the arse-end of nowhere. Truly original settings are very, very rare and usually so off-the-wall not many people will like them, ironically because they can't really find anything to relate to it by.

TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife]

Hell if we really wanted to, we could probably find justification that everything has just been ripping off of Gilgamesh [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh] or the few stories older than that.

 

[Dr Jones]

A New Hope was the first Star Wars movie, it was original.

It ripped off a lot of 50's and 60's movies/TV shows so you can technically call it plagiarism.

Ripping off is a bit too far, borrowing aspects more like. Lucas took some basic ideas from other stories, and cliches. That's what Lucas does, that's what he is good at. Taking the stuff he grew up with (cliched movies from the 30-60ies and mashing their aspects together), Star Wars is just a combination of all sorts of different stories, samurai stories (lightsabers and such), Wizard of Oz, The Hidden Fortress etc. It doesen't rip entire storylines from something..

Also Star Wars Episode 1 is marked as literature/comic, I might be wrong, but isnt it an original piece?

 

[DoPo]

It's episode IV, because a dozen years ago, it was changed. For about two decades before that, it was episode I.

I saw it no later than 1992 and it was Episode IV even then (it was strange to me because I couldn't find the previous episodes anywhere).

Hey, you know what, I checked and indeed you are correct. It was changed at the end of the 80's.

Which is weird, because when I watched it for the first time (on good ol' VHS) it didn't say Episode IV. The original trilogy cassettes I watched showed just that - a trilogy. That was back in...'95 or '96, I think. I only learned they were changed when Phantom Menace was announced, so '98, I believe. I just assumed they were changed then.

 

[Nouw]

While I do like adaptations, I also like originals. It just comes down to quality and whether or not it interests me. The fact that it was 'based on' something already existing doesn't change anything for me.