Moviebob's Text Review of Batman v Superman and oh boy he is ANGRY!!!

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Vigormortis said:
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You might as well ask water to stop being wet or fire to turn down the heat a little. Whiny fan boy manchild is Bob's schtic. To expect anything else from him is kind of silly...
Pretty much, which has always made me wonder why he has such a devoted fan base.

But then I remember that there are actually people who are unironically fans of those two ass-hat man-children known as Tim and Eric, and I lose just a little hope for the future.

Millennials confound me, even though I am one.
I thought people born in the 80s were Gen X people.

People born in the 90s is Gen Y people

And people born in the 2000s in Millennials.
 

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Eh, if Bob tore the movie to shreds, my own reaction tends to veer closer to an apathetic grumble.

"Hey, LEAM, what'd you think of BvS?
- Iunnoeeeeaaargh?" *insert non-committal shrug*

It's forgettable. Entirely and completely forgettable. There's no real passion, no sense of fun, no genuine interest, and you can feel how the DC Grimdark approach is castrating the concept. The Marvel flicks know how to make their schtick fun to watch and wholly embrace their dumb and cheerful Popcorn Flick basics, even while tackling modern political discourse or considerations of ideology.

I left the theatre feeling more sad for everyone involved than angry or even outraged. Eisenberg deserves better, Affleck sure as fuck does deserve better, so does Cavill and God - if Gadot's had a thankless introduction to the Hollywood blockbuster machine, this is it.

So I can't work up Bob's hyperbolic rage or his sense of betrayal, mostly because I never even had the slightest hope for the movie. Warner just doesn't know how to handle a superhero license, and Snyder hasn't ended up with a lightning-in-a-bottle project since his Dawn of the Dead remake. Even Watchmen felt like a depressive slog.

What really saps my energy is how I have a cousin who's so devoted to DC and anything they print that he won't be able to see past the fact that it's his two favourite characters duking it out onscreen. Every other conversation we have has him fanboy over the basic concept, to the point where the flick might as well be two hours of Batman and Superman Lego figures being thrown at each other. Zero objectivity, zero critical distance.

Samtemdo8 said:
I thought people born in the 80s were Gen X people.

People born in the 90s is Gen Y people

And people born in the 2000s in Millennials.
Correction: anyone born between the late-eighties or the mid-nineties is a Millennial. The term doesn't refer to your decade of birth, but to the decade in which you reached adulthood. At 32 years old, I'm a Millennial, having been born in 1983.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
I thought people born in the 80s were Gen X people.

People born in the 90s is Gen Y people

And people born in the 2000s in Millennials.
I wasn't referring to Bob. I was referring to the fan bases that seem to enjoy these kinds of whiny man-children, most of whom are comprised of millennials.

And nowadays I mostly lump gen-x'ers and onward under the label of 'millennials', which is technically correct as the term refers to the point when the person reaches adulthood.

Is that fair? Not at all, but generalizations rarely are.
 

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Vigormortis said:
Samtemdo8 said:
I thought people born in the 80s were Gen X people.

People born in the 90s is Gen Y people

And people born in the 2000s in Millennials.
I wasn't referring to Bob. I was referring to the fan bases that seem to enjoy these kinds of whiny man-children, most of whom are comprised of millennials.

And nowadays I mostly lump gen-x'ers and onward under the label of 'millennials', which is technically correct as the term refers to the point when the person reaches adulthood.

Is that fair? Not at all, but generalizations rarely are.
Well I am certainly the Anti Millenial since I don't own an Apple Phone/Tablet or use Facebook and Twitter.

And I certainly don't listen to Dubstep :p

My music tastes are mostly Thrash Metal and Classical Music. (Though I listen to other genres)
 

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I remember back when MovieBob at least tried to be professional. Sadly, around the time he began mixing politics with his work, he fell off the wagon hard. His new videos show how badly he needs an editor (before we look at the reviews for his book at least) and how, instead of doing a Jim Sterling and maintaining a similar image to himself when he was still here, he just fashioned an echo chamber for himself.

His old reviews used to be interesting, but now all he does is make video reviews for things that stir him up and there's almost never any middleground or surprise. He either reviews things he can't shut the hell up about and incredibly incessant in either defending it or proclaiming it from the rooftops, or stuff where he knew going in that all that he was going to put out would be pure vitriol.

I would say I'm disappointed, but to be honest, his own lack of self-awareness and almost dogmatic attachment to this attitude has removed any semblance of caring for the guy, and that's before we get into his politics.

It's not that I expect him to like BvS: I'm fairly impartial to either 'side' of the superhero cinematic universe since all I want is just a good movie as I have no attachment to these characers, but I'd like to have thought that he wasn't so far gone that he wouldn't at least just express some hope for this turning out good, even if he seems to be so damn attached to MCU that he still thinks Agents of Shield is worth a damn.

But that's debating opinion and is in my mind, useless.
 

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That's a really bad review.

Not "bad" as in "rates the film negatively." Bad from a technical perspective. It's just a mess of over-the-top profanity and almost wilful ignorance of the film's (admittedly flawed) good parts. He's just...I miss Moviebob back when he used to actually talk and write about things in a considered and comparatively fair manner. He is actually a good film critic, despite this review showcasing his best efforts to the contrary.

I didn't think the film was perfect; I thought it could have been great, and with even small changes in pacing and script it could have been a lot better. But it's definitely not as bad as he's painting it. Maybe people have forgotten what a bad comic book movie actually looks like? Are we getting spoiled by all the Deadpools and Iron Mens? Have we forgotten Fantastic Four? Spiderman 3? X-Men: Origins?
 

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bastardofmelbourne said:
That's a really bad review.

Maybe people have forgotten what a bad comic book movie actually looks like? Are we getting spoiled by all the Deadpools and Iron Mens? Have we forgotten Fantastic Four? Spiderman 3? X-Men: Origins?
No, Bob (and Screen Junkies to a lesser extent) likes to hear himself ***** about anything made by DC/WB. And here's the thing, I hate Iron Man 2 & Thor: Dark World. Age of Ultron was very disappointing. How disappointing? I still have yet to pick up the DVD for it. So Marvel never does everything right like some other people claim.
 

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I think this review [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE4YgpkRGtI] by the HISHE guy is a lot more honest and reasonable about the film. If anyone's actually on the fence about seeing it, then the first spoiler-free couple minutes of that video are the best summation of this film I've found on the internet so far.
 

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A lot of his points/opinions are dead on to mine (mind the colorful language and overall downer mood), so all I can say is that I hope the unrated director's cut 3 hour Blu-ray of this movie redeems it.
No, No, No. I thought that for a split second that the 3 hour cut would fix it but then I quickly realized there's so many scenes that don't need to be there already that more runtime would only make this thing worse. There's no point to the Africa or Capitol scenes already. Man of Steel, itself, was enough of a setup for this film (Superman being a danger to Earth) and the end of Man of Steel was shown in this anyways. Why is Lex using weird ass bullets that are just bullets? Just so Lois has something to do. EVERYTHING is so contrived. Why is Batman branding people? Then, it's said that being branded means death in prison. But why would "normal" criminals kill criminals caught by Batman? And, didn't Batman sorta just return to being Batman (as this is based off The Dark Knight Returns) so this branding thing is new thus how would it even be concluded that being branded would get you killed? Almost nothing makes sense, even the little things.
Yeah, you're probably right. Unless they release a completely different film altogether, while keeping much of the action, I'll still probably get dozy from seeing this film, no matter how 'amazing' those extra 30 min and different movie rating might be.
 

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The Enquirer said:
I miss when he wasn't such a curmudgeon. It was way more approachable and unique. I started to get sick of him when he started really soapboxing more than, well, whatever it was I watched him that week to see.
Yeah, I'm with you. I liked his videos very much when he was talking about (video game) things he really enjoyed instead of stuff that got him pissed off. He's gotten so jaded, unimpressable and biased that he sucks out the fun for people who don't expect every movie or video game to redefine the genre.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
GestaltEsper said:
This isn't even Bob at his angriest. You guys see his video for Pixels? Fant4stic? The Visit?
It's certainly at his most unprofessional.
I'd still say that goes to The Visit. At least here he didn't constantly refer to Goyer and Snyder as disappointments and spend the entire ending telling them to shove the movie up their asses. This was "Fuck this movie," whereas The Visit and Pixels were "Fuck the people involved in this movie."
 

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Most of us knew it wasn't going to be a very good movie. We saw the trailer for Doomsday. We knew then. Some of us even knew before hand when there was talk of including Flash and Aquaman. Even before, when it was revealed Wonder Woman was going to be in it. We knew then that they were ham-fisting all they could in to the movie in a desperate attempt to catch up the Marvel.

Bob, and a hundred other professional movie critics called out the movie for these reasons. Almost all of their reviews critique the movie pretty much the same. But you know why Bob was so angry in his review? He loves the characters and the medium. There are very few critics who are actually invested in such a deep way. Now while you may not agree with his reviews, you should be happy that there are fans of the culture who are out there professionally reviewing the movies. Does it make sound like an angry fanboy? Yes. But show me a fanboy who hasn't gotten angry over something they enjoy.
 

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008Zulu said:
Most of us knew it wasn't going to be a very good movie. We saw the trailer for Doomsday. We knew then. Some of us even knew before hand when there was talk of including Flash and Aquaman. Even before, when it was revealed Wonder Woman was going to be in it. We knew then that they were ham-fisting all they could in to the movie in a desperate attempt to catch up the Marvel.

Bob, and a hundred other professional movie critics called out the movie for these reasons. Almost all of their reviews critique the movie pretty much the same. But you know why Bob was so angry in his review? He loves the characters and the medium. There are very few critics who are actually invested in such a deep way. Now while you may not agree with his reviews, you should be happy that there are fans of the culture who are out there professionally reviewing the movies. Does it make sound like an angry fanboy? Yes. But show me a fanboy who hasn't gotten angry over something they enjoy.
That would be a lot more moving and convincing if he were not perpetually as enraged. You know 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf'? He's just the boy who cried a lot.