MovieBob's thoughts on the ME3 ending controversy

[The Human Torch]

Please. Nothing artistic about that heap of shit game. I've seen fine art students scribble down crap for 5 minutes that had more artistic expression than Mass Effect 3. The point of the abysmal ending was to "create controversy" not to "Further the gaming medium"

So this MOVIEBOB can just go home.

This, plus Moviebob has been declared bat-shit insane some time ago, when he decided to insult the people who watched The Expendables.

Moviebob may have tons of nerd knowledge, but he is so caught up in his own view on movie/anime/gaming "art", that everything is perceived as something holy the moment the ink leaves the writer's pen.

Videogames are not art, they are completely subjectable to change. Heck, Valve retconned the ending to Portal 1, so that they could fill the plotholes made by the beginning of part 2.

Mass Effect 3's ending should be changed and there will be no artistic integrity lost, because they had none to lose in the first place.

 

[Psychoninja7]

I have just lost a lot of respect for Moviebob.

 

[Racecarlock]

I'm really starting to lose my liking of moviebob. I can't comment on the whole mass effect ending thing since I only played through the first and jumped off at that point, but this is the same guy that must have whined for 2 weeks about scott pilgrim's low box office returns. Not to mention he keeps insulting the intelligence of everyone he doesn't like.

 

[Rad Party God]

While I respect MovieBob and I generally agree with many of his opinions... I guess I'm a bit dissapointed with his point of view in the matter, pretty much like everybody else that hasn't even played the freaking game for that matter.

They're all "oh, don't fret, this is a good thing for the industry as it has finally been taken seriously!", or "stop whinning and get a life!", or "meh, I don't care one way or the other".

I need to stroke a puppy to calm down a bit... but sadly, I had to put the puppy I picked up in the street to sleep (long story) and I can't stroke her anymore... a really, really sad week

 

[spartandude]

"a medium can produce ART or it can produce PRODUCT"

so a medium cant produce one thing that is art and another thing that is a product?
so assuming movie bob thinks movies are art i highly doubt hes still gonna count transformers as art but may count something like district 9 as art.

also "art" is very subjective. many people consider portal to be art where as i consider it to be a really good game. and i think Bioshock is art but others done
so this idea that its no longer art at all is very naive. and when did we go from "SOME games Can be art" to "ALL games MUST be art. and if ONE isnt we've set the medium back ten years!"?

 

[Arina Love]

Moviebob stick to movies, you know nothing about games, mass effect franchise and what made first 2 games great.

 

[projectpinkx]

I expected more from Bob. He lost me as a fan. No interest in any of his future submissions to this site.

 

[Arina Love]

Moviebob stick to movies, you know nothing about games, mass effect franchise and what made first 2 games great.

You obviously don't watch the Game Overthinker.

i do, my statement stands. He almost never know what he is talking about.

 

[Deadyawn]

I don't think this invalidates video games as an artistic medium for one very important reason. Their video games. Interactive media. The only form of storytelling in which the audience is litteraly involved. This makes it unique in many ways but what it means here is that players are more invested in their games than consumers of other media types.

The fact is that a player is an integral part of the experience, they must participate to drive it forward. Even though a game is crafted before a player can access it, they still have an effect on their own experience and are a part of the creative process. What is happening here is an (extreme) extension of that.

To be clear, I don't really have an opinion one way or another on whether the ending is bad or if it should be changed as I haven't played it.

 

[Monsterfurby]

It's not that I think that the ending was partcularly great.

I just think that thousands of people spending days whining over it on forums is an incredible waste of human productivity and time.

Think about it.

 

[Warachia]

Moviebob stick to movies, you know nothing about games, mass effect franchise and what made first 2 games great.

You obviously don't watch the Game Overthinker.

i do, my statement stands. He almost never know what he is talking about.

That's a pretty big statement.

And it's pretty accurate, probably the best thing to come out of that show is the people getting pissed off enough to pull out far more interesting arguments against him pointing out how most of his points (if not all) are wrong. The one episode I remember being really big for this was when he went off praising metroid other m.

 

[xPixelatedx]

I basically agree with bob on most his video game opinions and points.

Not this one, not at all. He doesn't really address the problem and seems to come to the defense of bio-ware simply because they are a 'game developer'. The sad thing is I know if this hit bob close to home he would have raged with everyone else on the planet. He just doesn't know enough about current games or Mass Effect to jump into this argument, the very fact that he said, "

How many more times do I need to explain that this has NOTHING to do with whether or not you "liked" the ending?

" shows that. Sorry bob, Mass Effect is all about cause and effect (hence the name MASS EFFECT). Let me put this in a way you can understand Bob: Having your choices mean nothing in Mass Effect 3 would have been like you getting to finally play Mario 3, only to find everything that made Mario games appealing was gone, and all that was advertised in commercials and the 'Wizard' movie was absent. The entire point and appeal of Mass Effect was cause and effect, and they took that away. People don't hate the ending because it's bad, they hate it because it is the only ending there is. People buy Mass Effect games to see the story unfold in different ways, and to connect the games together and see how their choices in one might effect the conclusion of another. I agree games are more then just a product, but when you reveal to your audience at the end 'you couldn't give two shits of effort now that you have their money', the fans can't help but start to treat this as a product. This is how people normally act when they feel they have been scammed.

Considering this has riled up gamers more then anything the industry has ever done in the history of gaming, perhaps you should have done a bit more homework before making and stating an opinion?

 

[hazabaza1]

That's just MovieBob, isn't it? Y'know, that 'anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot' kind of attitude?

 

[Findlebob]

I wonder if he has experianced the ending.