I liked it too!Gxas said:Everyone hated Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
I loved it.
I still don't know why people hated it...
Thank you for reminding me why I want to hit that man in the face with a hard piece of metal.no oneder said:Everyone (and I do mean everyone) hates Spiderman 3. They hate it with a vengeance, but it is in my Top 5 movies of that year. Heck, Top 10 of all my life. I really don't know why people hate it so much.
Worst of all, my two favorite scenes in the movie are the vortex of hate of most people:
Fair enough, but why? No one has a reason. They just... hate it.Canid117 said:Thank you for reminding me why I want to hit that man in the face with a hard piece of metal.no oneder said:Everyone (and I do mean everyone) hates Spiderman 3. They hate it with a vengeance, but it is in my Top 5 movies of that year. Heck, Top 10 of all my life. I really don't know why people hate it so much.
Worst of all, my two favorite scenes in the movie are the vortex of hate of most people:
I hated Spiderman 3 is because it felt rushed. Not for the Emo Peter Parker. I found that funny.no oneder said:Everyone (and I do mean everyone) hates Spiderman 3. They hate it with a vengeance, but it is in my Top 5 movies of that year. Heck, Top 10 of all my life. I really don't know why people hate it so much.
Worst of all, my two favorite scenes in the movie are the vortex of hate of most people:
I've watched that movie twice (Bought the Blu-Ray version) and I also love it.Gxas said:Everyone hated Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
I loved it.
I still don't know why people hated it...
The film's main issue was the number of villains - 2 would have been more than enough (in fact, having the New Goblin and the symbiote would have paralleled each other perfectly - Sandman is totally unnecessary), 3 tears it apart.no oneder said:Fair enough, but why? No one has a reason. They just... hate it.Canid117 said:Thank you for reminding me why I want to hit that man in the face with a hard piece of metal.no oneder said:Everyone (and I do mean everyone) hates Spiderman 3. They hate it with a vengeance, but it is in my Top 5 movies of that year. Heck, Top 10 of all my life. I really don't know why people hate it so much.
Worst of all, my two favorite scenes in the movie are the vortex of hate of most people:
Agreed.Nintendolover222 said:So did I. I didn't think it was as good as Casino Royale, but it was far from bad.Ahlycks said:I liked 007 quantum of solace.
I would have posted this as my answer to the thread, but I was ninja'd... Anyway, I have three main reasons that I think are the reasons people didn't like the film when it was released in the West. Bearing in mind that when it was released over here it was a pretty solid effort by Square Pictures to try and appeal to the mainstream audience and actually make a well-received mainstream film for the West.Gxas said:Everyone hated Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
I loved it.
I still don't know why people hated it...
The first point is the only reason I would accept, and even then I don't see it. I absolutely loved the animation. Not to mention James Woods (I'm a sucker for a well-voiced villain).Trivun said:I would have posted this as my answer to the thread, but I was ninja'd... Anyway, I have three main reasons that I think are the reasons people didn't like the film when it was released in the West. Bearing in mind that when it was released over here it was a pretty solid effort by Square Pictures to try and appeal to the mainstream audience and actually make a well-received mainstream film for the West.Gxas said:Everyone hated Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
I loved it.
I still don't know why people hated it...
1. The Uncanny Valley. Which is odd, because I have that film on DVD and I've seen it loads, and the characters have never once looked to me like they belong in the valley. They actually look like pretty realistic and well-designed CGI characters to me. Not creepy at all.
2. The 'Final Fantasy' tag. That alienated fans of the series who were pissed off to find it was set on Earth (albeit in the future) and didn't have any major links (at least, not the 'right' sort of links, like Moogles and Chocobos) to the games. It also alienated non-series-fans who felt it was more aimed at those who had played the games and enjoyed them, despite that not being true at all.
3. The fact that it's anime. Like it or not, unless you're aiming something at kids and it has the name 'Pokemon' or 'Digimon' somewhere in the title, it's not going to be successful in the Western film industry. A sad fact, but true, at least when FF: The Spirits Within was released. It's getting a bit better now with films like Ponyo and the like getting a better approach and marketing from the West, but there's still a long way to go, and anime is still generally seen as the domain of nerds and geeks. I can't even persuade my brother to watch any anime because he thinks it's really geeky, even though I've explained loads of times that watching anime is no different to him watching The Simpsons or Family Guy. They're both animated shows from a different country, after all (we're from the UK, for the record), the only difference is the style of art. He just doesn't care...
So yeah, those are the three main reasons I can think of. Sadly, when combined they led to a very lacklustre performance and set of reviews in the West, and the downfall of Square's film division (thus helping make their subsequent merger with Enix all the more vital for the company's survival). It's a shame, because it was a genuinely good film. It was simply a bit too ahead of it's time. Maybe when something similar is released in a few years, by that point anime will have found a much wider acceptance in the Western film industry, and maybe then we won't see such gems being heralded as a load of crap like this one was.
Ditto on that. On the other end, I really liked "Waterworld" and "Postman". I also preferred "Wyatt Earp" over "Tombstone". (Hrmmm, I guess I have a Kevin Costner thing going)TheLiham said:I really REALLY hate Avatar!
Same here, I enjoyed it a lot and was really surprised at the response. The uncanny valley is overrated.Aeriath said:I am similarly baffled. I enjoyed it more than Advent Children.Gxas said:Everyone hated Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
I loved it.
I still don't know why people hated it...
[small]I'm apparently weird for thinking FFIX was awesome too *shrug*.[/small]