Really? Including that part mentioning the minor Deities from the Halls of Asgard in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe? And the second coming of the Great Prophet Zarquon?arragonder said:
Movies saying that Atheism is true.
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Well it's not entirely unfeasable that you could make a film that centers around an Athiestic way of thinking (if we can have plots that boil down to 'because God said so' then I'm sure we could have someone come up with a way to make 'there is no God' interesting).Daystar Clarion said:
I think the only major problem would potentially getting it green lighted and approved in somewhere very pro-Christian in it's beliefs like the US.
Jurassic Park???
Creationists deny that dinosaurs existed (i think, correct me if im wrong) so saying that they did exist is somewhat atheist.
Creationists deny that dinosaurs existed (i think, correct me if im wrong) so saying that they did exist is somewhat atheist.
i dont know about movies but you could always read
Where God Went Wrong
Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes
Who is this God Person Anyway?
great read if you can find them
Where God Went Wrong
Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes
Who is this God Person Anyway?
great read if you can find them
Mmm, I don't think that you could really make the case that His Dark Materials is atheistic. They explicitly show angels and God himself. It's far more accurate to say that the series is misotheistic or maltheistic rather than atheistic.PedroSteckecilo said:
I've see some independent films to that effect but they tend to come off as smug in the same way that pro-faith films come off preachy. I'm Catholic but I enjoy some variety in my movies.
It's hard to approach atheism without requiring some belief structure in the idea. An atheist movie might have to have some extended dialogue/monologue to explain its position and then have no one bring up a counter argument. And why can't you counter? I cannot think of fool-proof argument to deny the existence of some sort of higher power.
Does that mean that I'm saying the Judeo-Christian-Islam idea of God exists? No.
Stephen Hawking not too long ago said that this universe doesn't need a God. And I tend to agree. As much as the forests do not need the hand of a gardener to grow, we do not need the hand of God.
Also, believing in evolution does not make you atheist.
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy had plenty of references to God existing. He even left a message on a mountain saying, "We apologize for the inconvenience".
Does that mean that I'm saying the Judeo-Christian-Islam idea of God exists? No.
Stephen Hawking not too long ago said that this universe doesn't need a God. And I tend to agree. As much as the forests do not need the hand of a gardener to grow, we do not need the hand of God.
Also, believing in evolution does not make you atheist.
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy had plenty of references to God existing. He even left a message on a mountain saying, "We apologize for the inconvenience".
That's the only major release I can think of. One of the primary themes of the 7th Seal is the absence of god, but I wouldn't quite call it atheistic.Michael Delvey said:
No, because non-Christians are a minority in this country, no matter how much the fundies want to cry otherwise. Did you see the outcry over the Atheist billboards and bus signs? Have you heard how certain politicians demonize "secular" people?
It would cause a shitstorm, if it got much attention at all.
And further, I imagine it would be rather hard to make interesting.
It would cause a shitstorm, if it got much attention at all.
And further, I imagine it would be rather hard to make interesting.
well i would like to say i apologize, as i actually haven't seen the movie, it's just a couple of my "pro-atheist" friends always reference that movie anytime anything religious is mentioned. So i have no idea what is wrong with bill mahr...RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
but also, just curious about your post...
you had whiskey, and tea, and a sammich? That is the oddest combination i have ever heard of
and weekend book? it's tuesday night where i'm at....
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It's pretty much straight up atheist, dude. Case in point:Trololo Punk said:
Paul comes out of the bathroom and responds to Kristen Wiig's character spouting "created in God's image" stuff with, and I quote "how do you explain me?"
The thing that got to me was, here is this movie character railing against a fictional creationist strawman, and yet the character himself is a fictional CG alien who uses his own fictional existence within the narrative of the movie as one of his main arguments against the existence of God. Please note that I have been 100%, past-the-point-of-no-return atheist for at least the past decade, and will not suffer any creationist spouting garbage like irreducible complexity, the blind watchmaker, the shape of a banana or any other baseless, anecdotal horseshit arguments they can come up with. This also means that I hold any atheist arguments to the same standard, regardless of whether it's real life or fiction.
In short: I like you Simon Pegg and am a fellow atheist, but keep your brow-beating about atheism out of my good-time sci-fi/buddy/stoner/action/road movie, especially if you're not going to add anything meaningful to the conversation.
I can't think of any films that literally say "Atheism! ATHEISM!", but I'd say most of the films I watch have no involvement whit religious beliefs, and given that Atheism is the belief in no deities then a film not having involvement with them would be an Atheist film.
Who cares whether or not a movie says God is or is not real? When you watch a movie, you enter a world hand-crafted by a group of people, and these people get to dictate the laws of the universe. One of these laws may be that "God does/does not exist." I'm an atheist, I sure as shit couldn't care less whether or not that law is true. Because it's just fiction, and it's someone else's universe.
I was gonna go somewhere else with this, but it kinda got away from me =/...oh well.
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I was gonna go somewhere else with this, but it kinda got away from me =/...oh well.
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Poor Captcha is sick =( Or perhaps just hungry.
Athiesm isn't a belief so a film dedicated to showing athiesm as "right" would come across as empty. But for the sake of fun I'll bite with The Shawshank Redemption.
I'll look at two key things, Andy's Bible and Red's parole hearings. Andy's Bible is the obvious one. The warden, a heavily religious yet crooked man, praises Andy for reading it, saying redemption lies within it. Which is true but not in the way he means it as Andy is using it to hide his rock hammer. The message of this, as I read it, is that redemption can't be found in the pages of a book, it has to be a proactive effort by the one seeking it. Andy tried seeking redemption through higher means but the only thing that worked was relying on himself. To me that is a very "athiest" stance if there is such a thing.
To back this up we have Red, who's constant failed parole hearings serve as almost a calendar for the film. Each time he tries to appeal to the parole board with what he feels their sense of redemption is. The final time Red gives up trying to appeal to them and shows he accepts what he did and it doesn't matter if they think he's redeemed or not. And it works. This again shows that seeking redemption through higher means is pointless and it can be only found in ourselves.
So make of that what you will. Movies like this are easy to look too much into
I'll look at two key things, Andy's Bible and Red's parole hearings. Andy's Bible is the obvious one. The warden, a heavily religious yet crooked man, praises Andy for reading it, saying redemption lies within it. Which is true but not in the way he means it as Andy is using it to hide his rock hammer. The message of this, as I read it, is that redemption can't be found in the pages of a book, it has to be a proactive effort by the one seeking it. Andy tried seeking redemption through higher means but the only thing that worked was relying on himself. To me that is a very "athiest" stance if there is such a thing.
To back this up we have Red, who's constant failed parole hearings serve as almost a calendar for the film. Each time he tries to appeal to the parole board with what he feels their sense of redemption is. The final time Red gives up trying to appeal to them and shows he accepts what he did and it doesn't matter if they think he's redeemed or not. And it works. This again shows that seeking redemption through higher means is pointless and it can be only found in ourselves.
So make of that what you will. Movies like this are easy to look too much into
I don't know about all atheists, but I don't believe in a "soul" or any sort of continuation of consciousness past brain death. Hence, I don't care what happens to my body since I won't be able to experience it anyway. On a side note, I'd like to be cremated when I die, not because of any beliefs or traditions, but simply because I believe traditional burial to be a pointless waste of space.Horny Ico said: