Moving the New 360 Can Damage Disks

[Glaive_21842]

There are plenty of ways an 360 can get knocked over and/or jostled that aren't exactly intentional. Earthquake, somebody bumps it, friend gets overly excited with a wired controller, etc. This is why most people i know have their consoles lieing down unless they have some sort of enclosure that allows them to safely do otherwise.

Of course, none of the above fixes grim_ace's earthquake problem...

Now, I've had Wiis and PS2s fall over on me a few times and the games came out fine. Of course, Wiis and PS2s are far weaker machines that aren't spinning their disks nearly as fast, so i really should be comparing the 360 to the PS3.

So, for the sake of arguement, can anybody claim that they've lost a game due to a PS3 being moved/jostled/earthquaked? If so, is the PS3 just as "dangerous" for your disks as an 360? If it is just as bad, then is there anything that can be done outside of a warning sticker? If the PS3 is a more stable machine, then does Microsoft have more work to do in making a better system, or does the 360 technology make this problem unfixable?

 

[Neurowaste]

This just seems like a common sense to me. The Xbox 360 is spinning these disks faster than a drunk ballerina spins and somehow people think it's wise to move it upwards or sideways or carry it around while this is happening? I say too bad if their disc gets ruined and learn your lesson. Of course if it's an accident like my Rockband 2 disc, then it can be aggravating, but I just returned it and told target it came like that

 

[Zealous]

Mmmm... Slim.
Well that sucks, it'd have though MS would have fixed that, but it's another cash cow...

 

[Replay107]

I thought this "put the console on it's side" thing was a fairly modern phenomena, a way to save surface room etc, was the PS2 the first? My 360 just stands there on it's side like a permanent fitting, I have no need to move it. I'm scared to move the thing when it's off let alone when a disk is spinning, in case the motherboard melts or something like that.

I just can't imagine why someone would need to move it whilst it's on...to make immediate room for your wife giving birth, maybe? Apart from that, I don't think I'll ever be in that much of a rush to get my xbox out of the way, without switching it off that is.

 

[Enemy Of The State]

Will it kill the console or just the disc?

Generally just the disc. The drives themselves are pretty resilient. There's always the possibility that a particularly bad bump could cause the disc to damage the drive optics though, or possibly shatter the disc entirely (especially if it was already damaged in some way), which would require a replacement drive.

Thanks, just wondering if it was that bad. Don't want to invest in something that will Seppuku (see wikipedia) itself.

 

[scotth266]

Snip.

Now that you mention it, given that people can compact a 360's innards to fit within laptop sizes, that really isn't such a far-off idea.

 

[lordgazoontite]

a simple question: would you turn your pc on its side if you had a disk in it. of course not that would be stupid and as most people have stated all you need is common sense to realize its stupid.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Don't forget laptops ... alot of laptops can wreck your disc if you're on an overly bumpy ride whilst they are spinning.

I would have thought a guy that is supposed to know about new tech would be clever enough not to move a device that has precision optical drive whilst the thing was operating.

That's about as stupid as turning a laptop upside down whilst it's copying information from a DVD.

 

[slopeslider]

This is a stupid design choice made to save money. The $199 wii has a proper disc reader, it sucks them in place and holds them firmly from moving, as does ps3 and car stereos.
WHy is the xbox still using last gen tech? Heck even my gamecube wouldn't scrach games, the games were pushed over a buttont-hing to keep them from tilting at all.

 

[Lancer723]

Why would you move any console while the disk was spinning?!

Pretty much this. I've seen normal 360s do this, a friend of mine ruined his his halo 3 disk at a LAN party doing exactly this.

Common sense, people.

 

[Digikid]

He deserved it. I will tell you why.

If you have your Xbox 360 ( any version ) standing up like the picture then congratulations....for you are a IDIOT and are asking for trouble from the get-go. The PROPER way is to lay it down. Even a rep from MS told me this when it first came out. Why they advertise it standing up? Simple. They do so because this way guarantees that some idiot will copy it.....ruin the disks or the machine itself ( It DOES hamper airflow believe it or not ) and then have to run and get ANOTHER copy of the game or the Xbox itself. It is business thinking....sad I know.

The MOST sad part is people FALL FOR IT. These idiots scream and yell and have no idea that they are the suckers that Microsoft are targeting.

You have to think logically. Lay it down and leave it alone. Pure and simple.

Then you will not have problems like this.

 

[Wintermoot]

its a design failure news like this damages 360 sales so fixing hit improves sysstem sales but on the other hand there IS a warning sticker ON THE TRAY so its both ands fault

 

[teutonicman]

Why would you move any console while the disk was spinning?!

Pretty much this. I've seen normal 360s do this, a friend of mine ruined his his halo 3 disk at a LAN party doing exactly this.

Common sense, people.

Ugh.... since I failed at embedding the image, here http://media.photobucket.com/image/common%20sense/Rigeldust/common-sense.jpg?o=1 .

 

[DPutna17]

Everyone who thinks this is a design flaw is blaming Microsoft for it. Shouldn't u be blaming Samsung, Hitachi, BenQ and Lite-on who are the companies that actually make the drives.

 

[AgDr_ODST]

uh no shit. thats NEVER a good idea. and if do its your fault not microsofts

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

A strong restricter could be in order but who knows what problems that could cause in the system, and 8000 rpm is alot compared to 2000.
Edit: I all ways thought it was a magnetic restriction.

Woah, I didn't know that ... 133 revolutions per second at fastest optical read? That's pretty darn quick. I have alot of respect for my Xbox now.

So at fastesdt optical read, an xbox disc is rotating at .... 180 kilometres per hour (112 miles). Sweet ....

Now imagine if you could harnass that power and make it shoot dvds are that rotating speed as well!

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Wow, it's almost like moving a sensitive piece of electronics that has a thin piece of plastic spinning at thousands of RPM is a bad idea or something...

What makes you think that?

 

[Gamegodtre]

Wow, it's almost like moving a sensitive piece of electronics that has a thin piece of plastic spinning at thousands of RPM is a bad idea or something...

well i would think it would be a no brainer that a fast spinner thing confined in a tight space should not be tilted but..... who knows

 

[Jamash]

It's a good thing the 360 S comes with a 250gb Hard Drive and the ability to install games as standard.

If people can resist the urge to move their console during the first installation period and during the brief disc check (when initialising a game from the HDD), then there shouldn't be any problem since there won't be much spinning of the disc at all.

However, if people insist on not installing their games and on moving their consoles when the discs are spinning, then they've only got themselves to blame, as there's no excuse for their failings.

 

[SilentBobsThoughts]

It was the exact same with the old 360, so I don't get what people are fussing about?