Moving the New 360 Can Damage Disks

[Cpu46]

The Wii does the same thing. Bottom line: Don't move the machine while it's on. That doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

Really? I had my Wii fall off of a three foot table and barely avoid crashing into the ground only because the wires were too short. The smash bros disk wasn't scratched in the slightest and there was no lag/break in the gameplay, we completed the round with it dangling a few inches off the ground then placed it back on the table and continued playing.

But as for the Xbox and PS3, why would you want to move it while playing in the first place?

 

[Nuke_em_05]

So... moving a device that has a plastic disk spinning in it at what? maybe 7200 RPM? On an unsecured tray... could maybe cause some instability in the mechanism and damage to the disk?

Weird.

As a consumer, I demand that Microsoft be held responsible for the laws of physics and mechanics that cause this behavior to occur when I... tilt a console in the middle of playing a game...?

Who does that?

Seriously?

 

[Xyliss]

Why would you anyway? It's never been a good idea, and there's no real reason to. If you need to move it that badly, switch it off or something.

 

[Zyst]

The issue is covered in detail [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems#Scratched_discs] on the unsurprisingly lengthy Wikipedia article on Xbox 360 technical problems. Microsoft apparently claims that "bumpers in the disk tray would cost 25 cents per console" and so naturally had to be left out.

Just whether it will affect all the new models is not clear.

source
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/06/16/xbox-360-slim-destroys-discs-if-moved/

 

[SovietSecrets]

Old news is old? This was the same with these 360s and how stupid are you to actually move the 360 while playing? Is it really that hard for people to keep it in an space where they dont accidently hit it or on this side not standing up?

 

[Jumplion]

Whether you think this is an unacceptable design flaw, or a consequence of using the device improperly depends on your point of view. Personally, I think that moving the machine while the disk is moving at its quickest is just asking for trouble, but that's just my opinion. Regardless, it shows that being careful with your consoles is a good idea.

Well, it depends on how you move it. If you move the entire console, like the poor feller right here, then you are just asking for trouble. It's similar to other consoles.

If, however, you accidentally just tap it or maybe scooch it a bit out of the way (maybe your controller was behind it, I dunno) and it chews up the disc, then that is an unacceptable design flaw. There's no reason why any electronic can't be durable.

Though, really, the amount of problems that the 360 has had is really sad when it has to have it's own dedicated Wikipedia page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems#Scratched_discs].

 

[whycantibelinus]

Who the fuck has to move a system while they are playing a game?! Never once have I been playing and thought, "You know, I think my xbox should really be in a different position RIGHT THIS SECOND!" This is a fucking non-issue.

 

[masher]

I don't know bout most people don't I don't tend to flail mah system around whilst it's in use, or ever for that matter. Neither do I do so with -any- of my systems.

XD "The Nintendo Wii! The system you -can- flail whilst in use!"

 

[Snotnarok]

If you move your console while your game is spinning you're a moron. Can't you wait to move it? Till you know it's off? I thought this was common sense.

It's like those goons at my college who bounced around with their laptops in their hands with rap blasting from tinny speakers and the next day wondering why their hard drives failed.

 

[brodie21]

that was a problem with the original too, it ate my gears of war disk, twice. now i just lay it down and dont touch it. if you move anything while its running you run the risk of fucking something up, why take the risk?

 

[johnman]

Keep your console on its side so you can put the disks in properly, and it cant get nudged either. I dont know where this idea of putting the disc in sideways came from, it seems monumentally stupid to me, you risk scratching the disc very badly if it falls out while the tray is closing.

He deserved it. I will tell you why.

If you have your Xbox 360 ( any version ) standing up like the picture then congratulations....for you are a IDIOT and are asking for trouble from the get-go. The PROPER way is to lay it down.
The MOST sad part is people FALL FOR IT. These idiots scream and yell and have no idea that they are the suckers that Microsoft are targeting.

You have to think logically. Lay it down and leave it alone. Pure and simple.

Then you will not have problems like this.

QFT

Why would you anyway? It's never been a good idea, and there's no real reason to. If you need to move it that badly, switch it off or something.

Factor in small children/siblings and spouses, pets, alcohol and trailing wires. Thats what most people seem to be missing

 

[Hexenwolf]

[HEADING=1]FAIL, MICROSOFT. FAIL.[/HEADING]
I mean, they may have fixed the Red Ring of Death issue, but isn't this worse?
However, I suppose most people don't really move their 360s whilst it's playing a disk.

This isn't something new, it's always been true with the Xbox. But why the hell would you move it while it's running?? If you destroy a disk this way, it's your own damn fault for not understanding how to properly treat electronics.

 

[Brain_Cleanser]

[HEADING=1]FAIL, MICROSOFT. FAIL.[/HEADING]
I mean, they may have fixed the Red Ring of Death issue, but isn't this worse?
However, I suppose most people don't really move their 360s whilst it's playing a disk.

Actualy, I read the "Red Ring of Death" fix was removing the red LEDs...

Anyway, I do consider ANY system that kills a disk a huge fail. I once knocked my Wii off the table it was on mid play, it fell about three feet, still works perfectly, the game didn't bust (I lost music for a brief period, but sound effects and everything still played perfectly), and there was nothing wrong with the disk at all, so yes, I can not say it any better myself, so I'll just quote it again:

[HEADING=1]FAIL, MICROSOFT. FAIL.[/HEADING]

 

[The Bandit]

[HEADING=1]FAIL, MICROSOFT. FAIL.[/HEADING]
I mean, they may have fixed the Red Ring of Death issue, but isn't this worse?
However, I suppose most people don't really move their 360s whilst it's playing a disk.

Well Microsoft proves, yet again, that they can't build a decent console. I mean, really? They should be able to fix this, nearly every other device out there can handle being moved while the disk is spinning.

You'd think that Microsoft would go out of their way to fix problems like these. Actually, they did fix it. There was no RRoD warning sticker on the original...

OK tell me one good reason you'd have to move your console while it's on, just one solitary rational reason.

Plenty of reasons: you're in the middle of something where you can't save and turn it off, you don't know that it can damage disks that way. Mainly it would be unexpected situations, like it getting bumped and tipped over or needing to be moved to escape damage or destruction from some other means. Point being: you shouldn't have to worry about your disks getting destroyed when the main purpose of the device is to read disks.

Your first sentence literally makes my head hurt. I have absolutely no idea what you're saying.

 

[Hexenwolf]

He deserved it. I will tell you why.

If you have your Xbox 360 ( any version ) standing up like the picture then congratulations....for you are a IDIOT and are asking for trouble from the get-go. The PROPER way is to lay it down. Even a rep from MS told me this when it first came out. Why they advertise it standing up? Simple. They do so because this way guarantees that some idiot will copy it.....ruin the disks or the machine itself ( It DOES hamper airflow believe it or not ) and then have to run and get ANOTHER copy of the game or the Xbox itself. It is business thinking....sad I know.

The MOST sad part is people FALL FOR IT. These idiots scream and yell and have no idea that they are the suckers that Microsoft are targeting.

You have to think logically. Lay it down and leave it alone. Pure and simple.

Then you will not have problems like this.

Anyone should be able to figure out that the original 360's were meant to lie down. If you just look at the damn thing, you'll notice the biggest vent is on the bottom, where it'll get blocked if you stand it up.

I'm not so sure about the new 360's though, they said the cooling system is completely different, (one big fan instead of two smaller ones), and it looked like the vents were on the sides in the pictures. Until I can examine one in person, I can't say for sure what the best way to keep it is, but it might turn out to be standing. However, in any scenario moving it while running will always be a bad idea.

 

[JayJayinMay]

Isnt it Soemthing to do with the disc falling of its Axis?

Anyway,i didnt this.Twice.Mine and My brothers copies of MW2.They got pulled up cause i had dangling wires.Its all better now.Thanks to the Escapist's advice,i got a second hand disc and downloaded it onto my brothers Xbox,so now he uses the broken disc and i use the second hand one.

 

[oktalist]

I would've assumed that moving any magnetic or optical media device while it is accessing would be a fast-track to data loss. Why is this surprising?

 

[scotth266]

Though, really, the amount of problems that the 360 has had is really sad when it has to have it's own dedicated Wikipedia page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems#Scratched_discs].

I find it very curious that there is no PS3 technical problems page listed every little technical problem that has ever occurred with the PS3, ever. Even the infamous Yellow Light Of Death is kept to less than a sentence on the PS3's main page. Other problems (such as the clock incident and the Other OS drama) get more of a mention.

That aside: all of the problems mentioned seem to have been from earlier models (I haven't even heard of anyone having that visual problem), and Microsoft seems to have made many efforts to reimburse people. The only people who bring up the 360's unreliability anymore are people determined to be curmudgeons.

What's the saying? Grass grows, birds fly, 360s made way back when occasionally fail and have to be fixed for free.

 

[Piflik]

I find it very curious that there is no PS3 technical problems page listed every little technical problem that has ever occurred with the PS3, ever. Even the infamous Yellow Light Of Death is kept to less than a sentence on the PS3's main page. Other problems (such as the clock incident and the Other OS drama) get more of a mention.

Thats because the PS3 doesn't fail nearly as often as the XBox...as stated in that same Article...