Moving the New 360 Can Damage Disks
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Yeah, but these days people have to be told to use their common sense so the don't void the warranty or something.Nouw said:
What are people talking about? "If you move the wii the same thing will happen". Maybe the one I have is VERY special because I can not count how many times someone has yanked the thing from standing to on it's side while playing because they pulled their game cube controller back. I'll make a you tube video of me doing it if I have to, to prove a point. Can someone provide me with a story of it happening to them with their wii?
What are people talking about when they say "You can also destroy wii disks this way". I can't count how many times while playing brawl with my friends that someone has tipped it over by yanking their controller. Maybe the wii I've played on is very SPECIAL! Probably not though. Can someone provide me with a story of this actually happening to them or are people just saying shit as usual?
Uh sorry for double post. I had read more replies after my first one and searched the thread for my reply and couldn't see it. I mean wtf? I used ctrl F!
Uh sorry for double post. I had read more replies after my first one and searched the thread for my reply and couldn't see it. I mean wtf? I used ctrl F!
I cam see it now.
Your new puppy is running around, happy as can be. Your cat hunches next to the Slim, fearful. The puppy notices the cat and jumps at it. The cat jumps and topples the Slim. You watch, transfixed, as the console falls and ruins that game you waited several months and coughed up many dollars for.
The next day there are two fresh mound of dirt in your backyard. Damn dirty animals.
Your new puppy is running around, happy as can be. Your cat hunches next to the Slim, fearful. The puppy notices the cat and jumps at it. The cat jumps and topples the Slim. You watch, transfixed, as the console falls and ruins that game you waited several months and coughed up many dollars for.
The next day there are two fresh mound of dirt in your backyard. Damn dirty animals.
Thank-you. You've just helped me figure out why MS designed their console to be vertical. After decades of consoles being horizontal, MS was the 1st to come up with the *bright* idea of making theirs vertical. That never made sense to me. We never saw a vertical VCR, DVD player, or any other home theater component. Why a vertical game console??? Now, I see it's the perfect design to get gamers everywhere with children and pets to buy the same game more than once. Even if it was covered by warranty it'd inflate the number of games sold, which is good for their reputation. MS is following this train of thought by making a new 360 that's not compatible with the old 360's hard drive, power brick, or even memory cards.Eruanno said:
My 360's provided me with countless hours of gaming fun, but I hate MS more & more because of continued crap like this.
By the way people, I agree nothing reading a disc should be moved while it's being used, (excluding mobile devices,) but if a company's going to make a product be vertical, they should be able to have half a brain and realize accidental tipping over just became a real possibility, unlike any DVD player that's always horizontal. Portable CD players never scratch the disc. A mechanism already exists to protect a spinning disc from damage when the player's moved. MS revised the 360's design. This was the perfect time for them to fix one of their design flaws. That's why people are mad this problem still exists.
.."slot-in" cd-roms solved this for "high speed" drives in 2001. You have tray players with the same solution as well. ..a clamp with rotating parts on both sides of the disc, more or less, instead of just a spindle. Then they'd have a mechanism for stopping the read if it was interrupted, spinning the drive back safely, etc.VanityGirl said:
..honestly, I don't think anyone has made cd/rw drives with trays that doesn't have a mechanism like this in a long time. I know it was pretty much standard when they started making rw drives for cd-roms, because stability and buffer under run protection was important. ..I mean, it's the inevitable shocks and vibration in the box that typically is the problem. That the disc won't slip out of the clamp if you turn it sideways... that's just silly. I mean, the drive must have read-errors like crazy when it starts to get well used..
..well, at least it doesn't spin out of the box and decapitate people by accident.WanderFreak said:
How is this even news? This is just good common sense.
What kind of psychopath intentionally moves their console while it's on? Thanks to generously long congtroller cables/wireless pads, there's no excuse for it.
As for things accidentally knocking it over? Well that might happen if you're daft enough to leave it standing on the floor, as opposed to a solid table or just lying it flat.
Don't blame Microsoft for your lack of common sense.
What kind of psychopath intentionally moves their console while it's on? Thanks to generously long congtroller cables/wireless pads, there's no excuse for it.
As for things accidentally knocking it over? Well that might happen if you're daft enough to leave it standing on the floor, as opposed to a solid table or just lying it flat.
Don't blame Microsoft for your lack of common sense.
I just got a 360 last December, which broke right away, and picked up a wireless adapter a few months ago.
Talk about a fail purchase.
Maybe I should have waited for the slim?
Talk about a fail purchase.
Maybe I should have waited for the slim?
microsoft no longer supports wired controllers. In fact the old official ones are relics.joshuaayt said:
My bad, I edited that. Never be awake for 48 hours at a time kids.The_root_of_all_evil said:
What I mean to say was, "Any other console, you can pretty much do a full Waltz with while the console is on, and the disk will be fine. They should have fixed this just in case of accidents. My little sister has accidentally dropped my Slim PS2 10 times and it still works to this day."
The only two consoles in my memory that could be moved while a disc was spinning was the PSX and the Gamecube.
Why? Because the disks clicked in there. Just like portable CD players. 360 discs are free-floating on the spindle. They are NOT meant to be moved! They are also moving, like, wicked fast. Something that's spinning quickly LIKES to stay the way it is, moving it causes it to act counter to the direction it's being moved, which in the case of a floating disk slams it right into the tray. Centripetal force and what-not.
Not moving the console is frickin' common sense, people.
Why? Because the disks clicked in there. Just like portable CD players. 360 discs are free-floating on the spindle. They are NOT meant to be moved! They are also moving, like, wicked fast. Something that's spinning quickly LIKES to stay the way it is, moving it causes it to act counter to the direction it's being moved, which in the case of a floating disk slams it right into the tray. Centripetal force and what-not.
Not moving the console is frickin' common sense, people.
Hmm, yes, why would anyone move any electronic device with a dvd/blu-ray in it, be it a console or otherwise, especially from a horizontal to vertical position, anyway?
Not exactly leaping to Microsoft's defence here, but this just sounds like a really, really stupid thing to do.
Not exactly leaping to Microsoft's defence here, but this just sounds like a really, really stupid thing to do.
Hmm, let me see...
On the one hand, we have the argument that you shouldn't try to move any electronic device while there is a disk spinning inside it. This is correct.
Then we have the argument that if Microsoft is going to bother making a whole new version of Xbox 360 they might as well solve a problem like this, as accidents happen. This is also correct.
I don't know, Microsoft just seems to enjoy the reputation of trying to be as cheap as they can get away with.
On the one hand, we have the argument that you shouldn't try to move any electronic device while there is a disk spinning inside it. This is correct.
Then we have the argument that if Microsoft is going to bother making a whole new version of Xbox 360 they might as well solve a problem like this, as accidents happen. This is also correct.
I don't know, Microsoft just seems to enjoy the reputation of trying to be as cheap as they can get away with.