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Kotaku said:
As of today, thousands of sex offenders will no longer be able to log onto online gaming platforms, thanks to a joint operation between New York State and some of the world's biggest video game companies. In a statement issued this morning, it's been revealed that the New York Attorney General's office has been working with Microsoft, Sony, Apple and other video game companies to ban registered sex offenders off of the those entities' network platforms.

New York law requires that convicted sex offenders surrender all e-mail addresses and internet screennames to the state, which then provides the information to websites. Those sites can sweep the matching usernames off their rolls, with the aim of creating a safer web environment for underage users. "Operation: Game Over" marks the first time that the law has been implemented with video games. From the press release:

As a result of Operation: Game Over, 3,580 accounts of New York state sex offenders have been purged - or their communication privileges suspended - from the gaming platforms owned by Microsoft, Apple, Blizzard Entertainment, Electronic Arts, Warner Bros. and Disney Interactive Media Group.
http://kotaku.com/5899463/new-york-state-just-banned-3500-online-gamers-who-are-all-sex-offenders

So this is pretty interesting. Can't say I'm surprised, though, I didn't see it coming certainly. Perhaps other states should follow? What do you think?
 

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This is kinda weird. Why are they punishing people beyond their court sentence?

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?
 

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Zhukov said:
This is kinda weird. Why are they punishing people beyond their court sentence?

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?
Because hating on sex offenders is good for politics. Don't see how these types of things are constitutional. We, as a society, see sex offenders as more dangerous than murderers.
 

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Zhukov said:
This is kinda weird. Why are they punishing people beyond their court sentence?

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?
Becuase in America anything sexual is 100000000X worse then the harshest most brutal murder one can commit.
 

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On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with.
Considering that being drunk and taking a piss in public (i.e., a common youthful indiscretion) is a sex crime in America, I think this is taking it a little too far.
 

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RJ 17 said:
"Operation: Game Over". Heh got a decent chuckle out of that title.

As for do I agree with it? Ehhhhhhhh. I can see what they're protecting against, I agree with what they're wanting to do. But as a conservative I'm against most forms of governmental regulation. On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with. And if I had a young child that played on XBox live, I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Hey, maybe we should just put all the sex offenders on an island then?
 

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RJ 17 said:
Zhukov said:
Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?
Murderers don't typically talk about their penises to 12 year olds.
Are you really saying that murder is better than talking about a penis? Man, that's pretty fucked up but it explains why politicians get away with persecuting sex offenders.
 

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RJ 17 said:
"Operation: Game Over". Heh got a decent chuckle out of that title.

As for do I agree with it? Ehhhhhhhh. I can see what they're protecting against, I agree with what they're wanting to do. But as a conservative I'm against most forms of governmental regulation. On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with. And if I had a young child that played on XBox live, I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Hey, maybe we should just put all the sex offenders on an island then?
They do, in some communities. Sex offenders can't live with in X miles of things like schools/libraries/etc., so occasionally these laws essentially confine all the sex offenders to an island or something.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
RJ 17 said:
"Operation: Game Over". Heh got a decent chuckle out of that title.

As for do I agree with it? Ehhhhhhhh. I can see what they're protecting against, I agree with what they're wanting to do. But as a conservative I'm against most forms of governmental regulation. On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with. And if I had a young child that played on XBox live, I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Hey, maybe we should just put all the sex offenders on an island then?
They do, in some communities. Sex offenders can't live with in X miles of things like schools/libraries/etc., so occasionally these laws essentially confine all the sex offenders to an island or something.
That's not the same thing and you know it and you totally missed the point. I really fuckin hate how it's ok to persecute certain groups. Sex offenders, smokers, etc...

It's like people in those groups aren't people at all and can have rights removed without backlash. I would say this ban is a civil rights violation.
 

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RJ 17 said:
I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Well then don't let your kids online ever, or send them to school, because that actually sounds incredibly tame.
 

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Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
RJ 17 said:
"Operation: Game Over". Heh got a decent chuckle out of that title.

As for do I agree with it? Ehhhhhhhh. I can see what they're protecting against, I agree with what they're wanting to do. But as a conservative I'm against most forms of governmental regulation. On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with. And if I had a young child that played on XBox live, I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Hey, maybe we should just put all the sex offenders on an island then?
They do, in some communities. Sex offenders can't live with in X miles of things like schools/libraries/etc., so occasionally these laws essentially confine all the sex offenders to an island or something.
That's not the same thing and you know it and you totally missed the point. I really fuckin hate how it's ok to persecute certain groups. Sex offenders, smokers, etc...

It's like people in those groups aren't people at all and can have rights removed without backlash. I would say this ban is a civil rights violation.
It's really, really important to remember that many sex offenders actually raped or molested little children and that those offenses are nothing like smoking a cigarette.

What is wrong with all of you?
 

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Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
RJ 17 said:
"Operation: Game Over". Heh got a decent chuckle out of that title.

As for do I agree with it? Ehhhhhhhh. I can see what they're protecting against, I agree with what they're wanting to do. But as a conservative I'm against most forms of governmental regulation. On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with. And if I had a young child that played on XBox live, I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Hey, maybe we should just put all the sex offenders on an island then?
They do, in some communities. Sex offenders can't live with in X miles of things like schools/libraries/etc., so occasionally these laws essentially confine all the sex offenders to an island or something.
That's not the same thing and you know it and you totally missed the point. I really fuckin hate how it's ok to persecute certain groups. Sex offenders, smokers, etc...

It's like people in those groups aren't people at all and can have rights removed without backlash. I would say this ban is a civil rights violation.
I agree with you. It's amazingly stupid that we slap, for instance, people who get drunk and take a leak in public, 15-year-olds who have sex with other 15-year-olds, and so on with stupid arbitrary restrictions for the rest of their life. Now, child molesters, I'm pretty okay with telling them they can't live near schools.
 

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fookolt said:
Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
RJ 17 said:
"Operation: Game Over". Heh got a decent chuckle out of that title.

As for do I agree with it? Ehhhhhhhh. I can see what they're protecting against, I agree with what they're wanting to do. But as a conservative I'm against most forms of governmental regulation. On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with. And if I had a young child that played on XBox live, I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Hey, maybe we should just put all the sex offenders on an island then?
They do, in some communities. Sex offenders can't live with in X miles of things like schools/libraries/etc., so occasionally these laws essentially confine all the sex offenders to an island or something.
That's not the same thing and you know it and you totally missed the point. I really fuckin hate how it's ok to persecute certain groups. Sex offenders, smokers, etc...

It's like people in those groups aren't people at all and can have rights removed without backlash. I would say this ban is a civil rights violation.
It's really, really important to remember that many sex offenders actually raped or molested little children and that those offenses are nothing like smoking a cigarette.

What is wrong with all of you?
Just like it's real important to remember that many murderers killed someone, sometimes even children and sometime more than one person. Yet, you don't call for them to be cut off from society every time a politician or some hate group can find a new way to do it.

People don't realize that by letting government get away with shit like this, it sets a precedent that may one day come back to get them.

Surely you have heard the whole "First they came for the Jews..." thing?
 

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Crono1973 said:
fookolt said:
Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
RJ 17 said:
"Operation: Game Over". Heh got a decent chuckle out of that title.

As for do I agree with it? Ehhhhhhhh. I can see what they're protecting against, I agree with what they're wanting to do. But as a conservative I'm against most forms of governmental regulation. On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with. And if I had a young child that played on XBox live, I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Hey, maybe we should just put all the sex offenders on an island then?
They do, in some communities. Sex offenders can't live with in X miles of things like schools/libraries/etc., so occasionally these laws essentially confine all the sex offenders to an island or something.
That's not the same thing and you know it and you totally missed the point. I really fuckin hate how it's ok to persecute certain groups. Sex offenders, smokers, etc...

It's like people in those groups aren't people at all and can have rights removed without backlash. I would say this ban is a civil rights violation.
It's really, really important to remember that many sex offenders actually raped or molested little children and that those offenses are nothing like smoking a cigarette.

What is wrong with all of you?
Just like it's real important to remember that many murderers killed someone, sometimes even children and sometime more than one person. Yet, you don't call for them to be cut off from society every time a politician or some hate group can find a new way to do it.

People don't realize that by letting government get away with shit like this, it sets a precedent that may one day come back to get them.

Surely you have heard the whole "First they came for the Jews..." thing?
Murderers rarely go back into the general population like sex offenders do. We already cut them off from society.

And it's really, really insulting to compare the Holocaust to making sure sex offenders don't rape children.

This isn't the slippery slope some of you are trying to make it out to be.

Should the list be better maintained? Absolutely.

Should it go away or should we let sex offenders near schools? Nope.
 

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fookolt said:
Crono1973 said:
fookolt said:
Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
RJ 17 said:
"Operation: Game Over". Heh got a decent chuckle out of that title.

As for do I agree with it? Ehhhhhhhh. I can see what they're protecting against, I agree with what they're wanting to do. But as a conservative I'm against most forms of governmental regulation. On the other hand when it comes to sex crimes, I believe - obviously this meaning what follows is opinion - that you can never be fully rehabilitated. You'll always have the urges to be naughty with people/things you shouldn't be naughty with. And if I had a young child that played on XBox live, I wouldn't want some jackass coming on the mic and asking my kid if he likes going to the gym and watching guys work out, or if he likes professional wrestling, or if he likes movies about gladiators.
Hey, maybe we should just put all the sex offenders on an island then?
They do, in some communities. Sex offenders can't live with in X miles of things like schools/libraries/etc., so occasionally these laws essentially confine all the sex offenders to an island or something.
That's not the same thing and you know it and you totally missed the point. I really fuckin hate how it's ok to persecute certain groups. Sex offenders, smokers, etc...

It's like people in those groups aren't people at all and can have rights removed without backlash. I would say this ban is a civil rights violation.
It's really, really important to remember that many sex offenders actually raped or molested little children and that those offenses are nothing like smoking a cigarette.

What is wrong with all of you?
Just like it's real important to remember that many murderers killed someone, sometimes even children and sometime more than one person. Yet, you don't call for them to be cut off from society every time a politician or some hate group can find a new way to do it.

People don't realize that by letting government get away with shit like this, it sets a precedent that may one day come back to get them.

Surely you have heard the whole "First they came for the Jews..." thing?
Murderers rarely go back into the general population like sex offenders do. We already cut them off from society.

And it's really, really insulting to compare the Holocaust to making sure sex offenders don't rape children.

This isn't the slippery slope some of you are trying to make it out to be.

Should the list be better maintained? Absolutely.

Should it go away or should we let sex offenders near schools? Nope.
First of all, I am not talking about the holocaust but you knew that. The point is to let you know that it never stops with the first target group.

Secondly, are you saying it's ok to prevent murders from playing games online because they may come into contact with their next victim? Did you know that many murders are crimes of passion? Not really that different from the conditions where child molesters/rapist commit their crime is it?
 

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This has got to be the silliest things law makers have done (in a while at least...there have been some doosies).

As our friend Kahunaburger has already pointed out, sex offenders are not always considered that because of molestation/rape. Things like public urination and streaking can be considered sex crimes and you can get put on this list if they really feel like pressing it.

Not to mention that you are now punishing the criminal AFTER their punishment has already been served (a reason I think the registry should just go away but that's a different argument).

Lastly, I'm not sure how many sex offenders are going online to Xbox Live with the hopes that they run into someone they feel like raping tonight AND has a Mic so the can convince them AND lives in the area AND is someone dumb enough to get tricked into going into his windowless van/"pet & candy shop".
 

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Not to mention that you are now punishing the criminal AFTER their punishment has already been served (a reason I think the registry should just go away but that's a different argument).
Absolutely and why do we ONLY do this to sex offenders? I sometimes wonder why we treat sex crimes worse than murder.
 

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Hello Mr Godwin, nice to see such a familiar face in here

Anyway, contrary to popular belief most sexual abuse offenders are people close to the victim, often being either a relative or a friend of the family. Banning known sex offenders from using online communities with their known e-mail addresses seems in this light, next to a bit excessive, quite pointless.