So,I have been pvping in dark souls,and every other person i run into has infinite health,or infite divine blessings(items that restore full health,and cure nearly any status ailments with a short animation that is extremely hard to stop,which you normally only get a few of.) It's very discouraging,and I was curious,what other games have multiplayer ruined by people that screw with the game?
Multiplayer that is ruined by hackers/modders/cheaters.
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Isn't Dark Souls ruined by lag even if no one is glitching?
I thought the whole invade system was kind of dumb because I built my character for PvE, not PvP (my spells were useless as they were easy dodged by human players), so I didn't care about fighting other people to begin with. Plus, when anyone did invade my game, they had much better equipment then me. It just seemed the whole system was meant to basically troll other players more than anything. I just then ended up signing out then right back into PSN every time someone invaded my game.
I thought the whole invade system was kind of dumb because I built my character for PvE, not PvP (my spells were useless as they were easy dodged by human players), so I didn't care about fighting other people to begin with. Plus, when anyone did invade my game, they had much better equipment then me. It just seemed the whole system was meant to basically troll other players more than anything. I just then ended up signing out then right back into PSN every time someone invaded my game.
Na,the lag isin't too bad unless I'm fighting someone from the other side of the earth,at least that is what I have seen. Also what you ran into sounds like a twink,which also quite scummy but not what I was talking about,I meant going to known pvp areas and making yourself unkillable.Phoenixmgs said:
Minecraft. Griefers have ruined the game, giving us flying unkillable players with X-ray vision who can find your base through hundreds of blocks of stone and either blow it up or fill it with infinite lava. Vanilla SMP is virtually unplayable to anyone not using third party mods.
Because the internet.Xukog said:
Some people just get off fucking things up for others. I don't personally understand the mental attitude required to gain enjoyment out of dicking someone over but there is never a shortage of them.
PvP griefers in almost every MMO on the planet
Team killers in FPS with friendly fire on
People who have obviously lost the game but drag it out by hiding buildings over the map in RTS
Don't get me started on MOBAs.
Every genre on the face of the planet has it's own form of MP assclowns and is why I generally only play co-op games and PvE servers in MMOs.
I read about lag back stabs in PvP, I never got into it myself. I know there's like specific PvP areas though. I was mainly saying that the invade system was kinda dumb because invaders are going to be built for PvP while the person being invaded most likely has their character built for PvE.Xukog said:
but noone plays vanilla one anyway. most play in tekkit and other servers that lcosk down the mods to what server uses and actually installs thme for you if you dont have them. this removes the whole xray modders. well msot of them anyway, the smart ones get around but there arent many smart people around to begin with.Asclepion said:
I saw people like this. they failed since the serve simply took the chunksin and didnt choke. eventually they gave up, but the "onlinemap" looked awkward from then on.Asclepion said:
Oh right,to be honest I forgot about that,don't see it that often,woops....Phoenixmgs said:
And as far as the invaders being built for pvp,well this I know is gonna sound dickish but, don't stay human/go online then? I mean,invasions are built in to the game,if you don't want them to happen,kindle the bonfire then kill yourself near it so it's easy to get your stuff back. That is what I do on characters that are not pvp-ready. Or if you need a phantoms help, you can't get invaded again for...ten minutes I believe if the invader kills you? (not 100% on that) should be plenty of time to get back to the boss.
I preferred my character being human just for appearance purposes. And, I just signed out of PSN and back in to get rid of invaders. I liked the messages and co-op part of the game, but the whole invading thing just comes off as the game allowing players to troll others and really nothing else.Xukog said:
Does the ps3 not have an offline mode? if it does,why not do that instead of wasting peoples time? Or just flat out play without your ps3 connected to the internet. Hell,when people disconnect,my game freezes sometimes,then it feels like someone just screwed me over.Phoenixmgs said:
I said I liked the messages left and co-op part of the online, why would I then want to play offline? I get invaded just waiting for another player to summon me so I can beat a boss again, then I have to put my sign down and wait again. If you're a developer you have to limit (as much as possible) a player's ability to be an asshole because when in an online environment, people will be as much as an asshole as they can possibly be. The whole invasion system is bad because of that.Xukog said:
Ok,my bad I must have forgotten that you wrote that.But why are you in human form if you want others to summon you? You can be hollow and be summoned. And yeah,people can be assholes,but provided they are not somehow cheating,then they are not really doing anything wrong when they attack you. Yet you kind of are if you force them to disconnect from you.Phoenixmgs said:
Wait, is that PC or PS3 version?Xukog said:
I ask because I normally wouldn't think it should be possible to cheat like that on a PS3.
I'm less and less interested in multiplayer every time I play. And people don't even need to be cheating or griefing.
Lag screws the experience up about 70% of the time all on its own. And since my schedule is widely erratic I don't even try to maintain friends lists. And random people ruin gaming about 75% of the time.
The stupid ones, the ones who say such stupid things you have to mute them, the ones who leave their mic open so you hear everything going on in their houses, and pros (people are head and shoulders better then every other player every single match).
I can remember a time when I used to stay online all night gaming. Now I cannot remember how long its been since I played 3 matches in a row before shutting it off.
Thank god for single player.
I think the preview for The Division looks incredible. But not in my wildest dreams do I think the experience will be anything like that once its filed with random people.
Lag screws the experience up about 70% of the time all on its own. And since my schedule is widely erratic I don't even try to maintain friends lists. And random people ruin gaming about 75% of the time.
The stupid ones, the ones who say such stupid things you have to mute them, the ones who leave their mic open so you hear everything going on in their houses, and pros (people are head and shoulders better then every other player every single match).
I can remember a time when I used to stay online all night gaming. Now I cannot remember how long its been since I played 3 matches in a row before shutting it off.
Thank god for single player.
I think the preview for The Division looks incredible. But not in my wildest dreams do I think the experience will be anything like that once its filed with random people.
I used to play Lineage 2 all the time. It is an old MMO that had hackers and bots came in straight away but they were no problem. This is because the game had hardly any beginner protection rules so you could kill any time. The bots didn't have much of chance. It was really fun actually, especially if you could bate mobs and get them to kill the bots so they drops items.
However, the rules of the game changed so there is hardly any punishment and so the bots and hackers took over with most places over run by damn computer groups or rich jerks who spent a lot of money only really high enchanted gear. Most MMO's have to go through with such people and it's a real shame. I can't play most because of this problem so I'm waiting till there is one with the old rules or just scrap trade altogether.
However, the rules of the game changed so there is hardly any punishment and so the bots and hackers took over with most places over run by damn computer groups or rich jerks who spent a lot of money only really high enchanted gear. Most MMO's have to go through with such people and it's a real shame. I can't play most because of this problem so I'm waiting till there is one with the old rules or just scrap trade altogether.
S4 League, an awesome game brought down by the fact that a hacker can literally kill everyone in the match with a click/press of a button, play god mode, disconnect people and not get kicked out of rooms.