Murders' of Goth have their sentences reduced, WTF!?
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I think they should be sent to the roughest prison in the world to serve out their sentences. Also the fact that they laughed when they were in court shows they are not even sorry for what they did and dont deserve a reduced sentence.
Its worrying that this sort of victimisation still happens now. Its also worrying that me and my boyfriend have been followed home 3 times by chavs in the past year, although they think we're emos rather than goths
Its worrying that this sort of victimisation still happens now. Its also worrying that me and my boyfriend have been followed home 3 times by chavs in the past year, although they think we're emos rather than goths
Sophie Lancaster should have been allowed to have a life.TheDean said:
These people took it away from her and her family and though we can't experience the pain of the family she was actually taken away from us as a society too.
Sophie will never be able to get married or have children, never be able to see her mother, father or any other member of her family. She'll never be able to have a hug from anyone, go out with her friends or enjoy her life. Sadly she died in terror while being brave and honourable by trying to help another person.
I don't believe in the death penalty, I believe these murderers have the right to life but they gave up on the right to live in our society.
Oh god I read about the murders a while ago and its terrible. These cunts killed a innocent woman and nearly killed an also innocent man and they get their sentence reduced! All because these two people looked different from them. After those years are up those thugs can live a 'normal' life but the family and friends of that poor girl may never recover from what happened.
wow wtf beat her up cos she was a goth fuck, i mean you dont see metalhead kicking the shit out of emos and england jail time suck i mean a man ran over a 4 year old boy and the boy was on his bommit and he never stoped not even when the kid fell off he kept on driving and he was let go the guy skiped a red light killed a 4 year old boy missed the mum tho and got nothing i mean for that u should get a punishment not to be sent free with no damage done to his lisance.
That's pretty horrible, but only one of them had their sentance reduced but it's still bullshit that that poor girl was killed in the first place. It's appaling.
Nice reference, Futurama is awesomemintsauce said:
We don't have jocks in England. They're called 'chavs' here.Gxas said:
Reading the wikipedia article on this tragedy pulled my emotional strings, even. The world seems pretty orderly whenever you're out and about, but it's things like this that remind you that chaos is just around the corner.
Before i begin let me preface this by saying that was well-said. however, criminals have rights. They are still a part of our society. Everyone can do something wrong. Everyone can change. it doesn't take long for you to become an entirely different person. I'm not the same person i was when i was a baby with the goo-goo-gaa-gaa, and i'll be a different person when i'm like 90.beddo said:
Don't forget i hate what they did, and i'd love to punch them in the face if i saw them; but you can't just say "you made a mistake, you get removed from society forever". That's not fair. Yes, it wasn't fair on the gril who died- but bad things happen--everyone dies, it's part of life. Ok so she shouldn't have died young perhaps, but what's done is done; there is no point lingering in the past.
THEY KILLED SOMEONE FOR NO GOOD REASON WHAT SO GOD DAMNED EVER Sorry to put this in caps and bold but jesus christ.TheDean said:
Going by your logic i could kill someone just to see what the hell its like and to put me away for life would be 'unfair' sorry but no.
I agree that prisoners have rights. I in no way accept the ideas of corporal or capital punishment. However, all people who are incarcerated lose their freedom of movement and freedom of association as well as some other rights as a punishment.TheDean said:
Some people can never change the way they are because of simple biology. Some people who are psychopathic will remain so indefinitely.
Back to my point though, your point loses credibility here:
If this is the case then we could say well you can never come back to society, it's not fair but it's a part of life, what's done is done.
Ignoring this though I still disagree with you. This girl was removed from society forever, why spare the perpetrators of the act from the same fate? I think that weak punishments such as the one they are subject to do not to justice to the crime.
I would perhaps accept a complete rehabilitation but only after a significant amount of time. For example say the punishment is 40-60 years then if, and only if they have been rehabilitated they could be reintroduced into society.
Quite frankly, the kind of mentality it takes to perpetrate this sort of crime belongs to the kind of person whose life has no inherent value, and on that basis I fully support the death penalty and wish it would be brought back in this country. All too often, innocents are murdered by those who should not be kept alive. And I held this belief even before a much less publicised incident claimed the life of my cousin.
It makes me sad to hear this news. I don't understand how someone could do that to another person. What were these kids thinking? What was going through their minds as they kicked this poor girl to death? What did she do that made her deserve to die? It is really sad to think that even though it seems our world has become more civilized in the past few hundred years, the truth is that there has been more killing going on than any other period in history. I just don't understand why its so hard for people to live together.
My heart goes out to the guy to be honest. I mean you could understand him maybe being able to take on one, but unless your Bruce Lee taking on two or more people at the same time would end you up with a seriously beaten ass. The fact that people actually attack others due to their dress sense is beyond me. I guess I can consider myself quite spoiled due to where I live since I haven't heard of that happening here in quite a while, but seeing something like this is a good slap of reality for me. I don't know how to comment on British law because I don't live there, but if people get away with (on top of the whole discrimination of redheads that I've heard earlier,) there is something seriously fucked up with culture in that sense.
40-60 years? do you know how long that is? A couple of years is fine, but i know if i was in jail for 60 years that would just plain suck. how awful would that be? you'd waste away your life. And like i said-- people change. Maybe not everyone, but most people. We shouldn't still be punished for things we did years ago. What's done is done. move on.beddo said: