Music that its "acceptible" to like

[Parshooter]

Err, Queen?

Everyone likes Queen right? Or at least doesn't hate them.

You missed Shaun Of The Dead then.

Though I can't remember if it was so much hating Queen as it was their situation of a hoard of zombies outside.

 

[ImperialSunlight]

No. I refuse to accept Metallica as a music source. I'm not even a hater of that genre, there songs just plain don't end when they should.

The only thing I really don't accept as music is rap, and pretty much all Death Metal.

I don't know any universally liked music. I think everybody likes the uppity Reggae songs. Don't know anybody who hates "Don't worry be happy"

So you're saying that Metallica's songs are too long? I think they're on the shorter end of the scale, as far as metal goes... Also, I detest "Don't Worry, Be Happy", now you know someone who does.

 

[JonnyHG]

Ive noticed..that when it comes to music, theres alot of it you cant like without being put into some kind of steryotype or aparently its jsut crap

for example like some bands/style all of a sudden your a wangsty emo teenager twat, like electroic/rap and its "not real music" and your obviously an idiot..like metal and your just a weirdo (and its just screaming)like anything remotely pop and WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU??

see what I mean?

but there are however certain types of music that you can get away with liking, mainly classic stuff/classic rock, like umm....the beatles, queen, johonny cash..Metalica, bob dylan (yes I know I just butchered music genres but you get my point)

I guess there are reasons for this, one being that our taste in music matures, and some angsty or fluffy pop-hit no longer sounds as good or meaning fulas It did when you were younger

so for discussion value what music do you think is generally "universially" liked...AND more importantly, do your tastes fovour that kind of stuff?[/B]

persoanlly (and because of this I porbably have horrbile taste in music or whatever) I generally am not into "classic" stuff that everyone loves..sure its good (you know, so Im told) but its not somthing I listen too over and over again/love...(that said I do dig johnny cash)

plus this kind of "old-school eilitism" is somthign Ive always hated, whcih means I like certain stuff even less (Piano man by billy joel just shits me now..for some reason)

that said I think my taste in music is developing, and Im still branching out (like looking into more obscure stuff)

EDIT: and Ive just had another thourght, is that music also well liked, perhaps because of its mainstream apeal?

Music is organized sound. Rap is music. If you want to debate whether a certain piece is actually music, this would be a good place to start. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E

 

[Nazulu]

Nup, don't know anything universally liked, just the most popular out of all the people I've talked about music. That is classic rock, clasical music, rap, some kind of metal and anything that made it to MTV.

What I like? I like good music.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

No. I refuse to accept Metallica as a music source. I'm not even a hater of that genre, there songs just plain don't end when they should.

The only thing I really don't accept as music is rap, and pretty much all Death Metal.

I don't know any universally liked music. I think everybody likes the uppity Reggae songs. Don't know anybody who hates "Don't worry be happy"

So you're saying that Metallica's songs are too long? I think they're on the shorter end of the scale, as far as metal goes... Also, I detest "Don't Worry, Be Happy", now you know someone who does.

... I don't think this conversation is gonna go anywhere pleasant...

 

[Gloomsta]

I will say, however, that rap is not an acceptable form for anyone to like because it is almost OBJECTIVELY NOT MUSIC. Seriously, the only part of it people care about is the lyrics, which is just poetry. If the only important component of a "musical genre" is a non-musical component, how can you honestly classify it as music?

Rythm is a major aspect of music.Rap is rhymes in a rythm.

Oh and you dont understand Hip Hop if you think Rap is the main musical component considering there are things called a DJ,Beats and Samples.

The closest I've seem anything being universally acepted is Hip-Hop, due to me seeing people far outside its demegraphic liking it.

I agree lol, when ppl ask me about my music, i show them my Hip Hop/Trip Hop, but i dont mention all the wierd prog and metal that i listen too.

 

[Gloomsta]

The only thing I really don't accept as music is rap, and pretty much all Death Metal.

Is there atleast a good reason for this?

 

[damselgaming]

Life becomes a lot easier when you don't give a crap what people think of your musical tastes, or that of anything of that sort.

Just throwing that out there.

Here here!

I don't think I have discussed musical taste in a long while, I haven't got an issue with any kind of music so going to clubs etc isn't a massive issue. In fact only 2 of my friends even have a slightly similar taste in what we listen to in the car on the way to work.

 

[Jazoni89]

I find when you get into your twenties, you stop giving a shit about stereotypes, and just enjoy the music.

It has opened my eyes to tons of new stuff, some of it i wouldn't even dared listening to years ago. Stuff my seventeen year old self would of called Chav, or Sissy.

Seriously, it feels great to be free from teenage stereotypes.

 

[Rabish Bini]

Bob Dylan.

Nobody hates Bob Dylan, and if they say they do, they're quite frankly lying.

 

[ReinWeisserRitter]

Life becomes a lot easier when you don't give a crap what people think of your musical tastes, or that of anything of that sort.

Just throwing that out there.

Here here!

I don't think I have discussed musical taste in a long while, I haven't got an issue with any kind of music so going to clubs etc isn't a massive issue. In fact only 2 of my friends even have a slightly similar taste in what we listen to in the car on the way to work.

I'm personally picky about the music I listen to (it completely baffles at least one person close to me that I generally can't stand music with lyrics, as it turns out), but don't give anyone else grief for their preferences; most people don't care, and it's not my place to rain on their parade unless they're violently shoving it in my face anyway.

For the kids at home, it's no one's place to rain on anyone's parade on the subject, or any like it, by the way, assuming the "not violently shoving it in one's face" disclaimer is upheld. Feel free to politely tell them you're not interested elsewise.

 

[uzo]

Everyone likes Pachelbel.


Generally I find if you have kids you notice what kind of music is ... just ... fun. My son is 3 1/2 yrs old and has an extremely rare condition that has elements of autistim. And he LOVES Polyrhythm.


He also loves Alizee and her bum more than I do (and hotdamn do I like it!). EDIT: Her bum, I mean. (>.<)


Goddamn .. what is it about French women?

EDIT: Oh crap how could I forget?! This song is without a doubt thigh-slapping awesomeness made music: 99 Luftballons!

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

I like electronic music of most sorts. While dubstep, hardstyle, trance and techno and whatever are considered cool, happy hardcore is not. I like happy hardcore

 

[repeating integers]

People who think Rap cannot be music need to listen to Doctor Steel.

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Not your average rapper by a long shot (in fact, I don't like many rappers, though I don't dislike the genre as I once did), and also does songs like this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqYEp4OQUBI]. In fact, his genre has been described as "hip-hop industrial opera". But the songs I video'd are definitely rap, and they're also definitely music.

 

[Therumancer]

There is no type of music that is universally liked. The closest thing, by definition, is whatever qualifies as "popular music" for the time period.

I will say, however, that rap is not an acceptable form for anyone to like because it is almost OBJECTIVELY NOT MUSIC. Seriously, the only part of it people care about is the lyrics, which is just poetry. If the only important component of a "musical genre" is a non-musical component, how can you honestly classify it as music?

......I cant like rap because its "not music" by YOUR definition?

people care about BOTH the lyrics and the production....in a good rap/hip hop song BOTH are good

anyway I dont want to start a flamewar based on music preference

He's not saying your can't like it, simply that it's not music and doesn't belong in that catagory, and he's absolutly right. There has been a lot said about it over the years, and honestly with the slow realization that racism is dead as a mainstream phenomena your seeing things like Rap which were classified as music, and Ebonics which was classified as a language, are gradually losing their "above criticism" status and coming under a lot of review and will probably wind up being re-classified within maybe 10 years or so as politics and social trends catch up with reality.

Rap might be entertaining, but understand you can't even defend a lot of it as poetry aince you LITERALLY have "songs" that are nothing but a guy (or several) talking while there is a beat in the backround without any real attempt to rhyme.

Now, you would be correct that there are a number of rappers whose work has bordered on being music and singing as opposed to rhyme and poetry and those guys are the ones who can be trotted out to defend "rap as music" arguements, BUT they generally do not represent a majority and might point towards an eventual re-classification for those who can do that. Ultimatly I think Rap is heading towards being seen as a form of entertainment, but NOT a form of music.

Hip Hop oftentimes gets thrown in with Rap, but *IS* differant and as such would need to be evaluated on it's own merits, and really I think it's probably defensible as music despite what anyone might think about it.

Like it or not, years and years of people putting a beat in the backround and then stepping up on stage to rant about other rappers, killing or victimizing the white majority, the glory of crime, or whatever else, have REALLY tainted it, especially seeing as that kind of thing represents far more rappers than those who try and do anything musican with it. Rap has been used as a justification for what basically amounts to anti-social public speaking that can't even be called poetry that increasingly few people take it even remotely seriously as a form of music... and oddly, I think it's starting to *slowly* lose favor with black america as well as time goes on. As I said, give it a decade or so, and I suspect it won't be lumped in with music anymore, even if it will be classified as entertainment.

Also, again, argueing about whether it's objectively music or not is not a criticism of anyone for liking it, just what it's classified as.

 

[shadow_Fox81]

Dark side of th moon

you can dislike it i guess but you have to accept it.

i personally don't like the album

 

[AhumbleKnight]

If it was possible for any music to be universally liked it would have to be Queen. Not liking Bohemian Rhapsody is almost unheard of.

Off topic (regarding the what is/isn't music debate): Any genre is music (be it RAP or whatever). Not liking it or not understanding the appeal of it doesn't delegitimise it. Even though I loath samplers I can't say it isn't music just as I wouldn't say rap isn't music because it is just poetry(sometimes) to a cheap beat. Anything that employs rhythm as a form of expression is music.

Any and every genre has something I like. Some more than others of course I tend to like anything with a message/story/epic musical score/ or is just plain fun to listen to. I dislike songs that are about desire of money/bitches/ego stroking.

 

[Gloomsta]

He's not saying your can't like it, simply that it's not music and doesn't belong in that catagory, and he's absolutly right.

Are you saying rythm isnt part of music?

There has been a lot said about it over the years, and honestly with the slow realization that racism is dead as a mainstream phenomena your seeing things like Rap which were classified as music, and Ebonics which was classified as a language, are gradually losing their "above criticism" status and coming under a lot of review and will probably wind up being re-classified within maybe 10 years or so as politics and social trends catch up with reality.

You saying that rap and hip hop are highly praised just because people of african american descent make it?

Thats a pretty big assumption.

Rap might be entertaining, but understand you can't even defend a lot of it as poetry aince you LITERALLY have "songs" that are nothing but a guy (or several) talking while there is a beat in the backround without any real attempt to rhyme.

What you say here is baseless and without knowledge.

Now, you would be correct that there are a number of rappers whose work has bordered on being music and singing as opposed to rhyme and poetry and those guys are the ones who can be trotted out to defend "rap as music" arguements, BUT they generally do not represent a majority and might point towards an eventual re-classification for those who can do that. Ultimatly I think Rap is heading towards being seen as a form of entertainment, but NOT a form of music.

Wat is this i dont even...

Hip Hop oftentimes gets thrown in with Rap, but *IS* differant and as such would need to be evaluated on it's own merits, and really I think it's probably defensible as music despite what anyone might think about it.

Rap is the vocals, the MC-ing, Hip Hop is the beats and samples. Get your facts right.

Like it or not, years and years of people putting a beat in the backround and then stepping up on stage to rant about other rappers, killing or victimizing the white majority, the glory of crime, or whatever else, have REALLY tainted it, especially seeing as that kind of thing represents far more rappers than those who try and do anything musican with it. Rap has been used as a justification for what basically amounts to anti-social public speaking that can't even be called poetry that increasingly few people take it even remotely seriously as a form of music... and oddly, I think it's starting to *slowly* lose favor with black america as well as time goes on. As I said, give it a decade or so, and I suspect it won't be lumped in with music anymore, even if it will be classified as entertainment.

You dont have a clue how influential Public Enemy is on music do you?

Also, again, argueing about whether it's objectively music or not is not a criticism of anyone for liking it, just what it's classified as.

Objectively Rythm is an important aspect of music, Hip Hop and Rap have rythm, therefore it is part of music.

 

[Freaky Lou]

There is no type of music that is universally liked. The closest thing, by definition, is whatever qualifies as "popular music" for the time period.

I will say, however, that rap is not an acceptable form for anyone to like because it is almost OBJECTIVELY NOT MUSIC. Seriously, the only part of it people care about is the lyrics, which is just poetry. If the only important component of a "musical genre" is a non-musical component, how can you honestly classify it as music?

Please don't try and make observations about genres you obviously don't know anything about. It makes you look even dumber when you tell other people they aren't allowed to like it; because there's not many things more ridiculous than a condescending ignoramus.

Anyway, you have to find the right balance between mainstream tastes and elitist tastes if you want to be really k00l with your music. Personally, I say it doesn't matter, as would most anyone if you asked them about it. You like what you like. I personally don't generally like more than one or two songs by the same artist, so I have scatterings of individual tracks from countless albums.

There's no kind of genre consistency in my tastes either. Radiohead, Stray Cats, Voceros De Cristo, Wu-Tang Clan, Albinoni, Gershon Kingsley.

Don't worry about what other people think of your music; they don't have to listen to it unless they're in your car, and then they're getting a free ride so should shut up and be polite.

If it was possible for any music to be universally liked it would have to be Queen. Not liking Bohemian Rhapsody is almost unheard of.

I really do NOT like Bohemian Rhapsody. It's overlong and has a very annoying a capella segment. The rest is just nothing special imo.

Enough other people with credible opinions like Queen that I acknowledge them as a very talented band, and Brian May is one of the few guitarists whose solos are worth listening to. But I just do not like any of their songs (with the solitary exception of Killer Queen.)

 

[Vault101]

People who think Rap cannot be music need to listen to Doctor Steel.


Not your average rapper by a long shot (in fact, I don't like many rappers, though I don't dislike the genre as I once did), and also does songs like this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqYEp4OQUBI]. In fact, his genre has been described as "hip-hop industrial opera". But the songs I video'd are definitely rap, and they're also definitely music.

hey...this guy is pretty cool! and really different

anyway for rap I would also recomend Sage Francis....comapred to him most rappers pale in comparison

the thing with rap is I like it...but somtimes It feels like it gets bogged down in subject matter thats...really really boring after a wahile (drugs, hos, crime, "Im so awsome")