I guess, Can I interest you with the thought of shooting guns and serving your country?MaxTheReaper said:Fair enough, but I'd always be answering to someone.
That just isn't compatible with who I am.
God knows how I'm going to hold down a job.
I'm too lazy to read back. I guess it's time for me to find some hopeless smuck and try recruiting him. It's hard job when so many people hate their country or commitment.MaxTheReaper said:Yes and no, respectively.
I've always wanted combat training.
Anyway, I already plan on making a career of writing fiction - not as exciting, perhaps, but it works.
..How did we get on this subject, anyway?
I don't remember.
Urg... I can't stand when people get so po-faced about music. What the fuck is 'true' punk? I didn't realise there were any rules to go by which defined what punk is and isn't. Oh yeah, that's because that was the whole point! As for having hit every corner of the musical world, that's what experimentation is for and if you think that going backwards to go forwards is a good idea well... it isn't, as we would end up 'rehashing the same stuff'. You're not screwed at all, you just need to look at things more positively. What can you do to contribute to music? Rather than 'it's all been done so there's no point trying'.Lexodus said:That's because there is no such thing as modern 'true' punk. The punk movement is over, and now the problem for up-and-coming musicians such as myself is this; what is there left to do? We've already hit every corner of the musical world, and now it's just generally rehashing the same stuff. That's why you have so much shit saturating the market now. What I want to do is bring back a musical renaissance, if you will, in which the world will once again return to a day of punk, metal and classic rock, when guitar players were good, hair was big, and increasingly-anodyne pop bands were not churned out every five minutes. Basically, I'm screwed, but don't want to admit it.APPCRASH said:We try our best to ignore you. Anyway, It's not easy to find modern day punk. Sometimes you have to go back to the roots to find anything worth a damn. As long as pop-punk just keeps it's feet away from the emo cliff, I'll still listen to them.MaxTheReaper said:To be fair, I do not listen to "real" punk.
I am willing to admit that most of the stuff I like is branded pop-punk or alternative.
I'm okay with that, because it's what I like, and fuck anyone who wants to make an issue of it.
And hey, someone's gotta hate them - it's not like they realize how stupid they are.
Alright, let me stop you right there. Punk was a movement of rebellion against society at the time, not just a musical genre. The reason you can't find true punk anymore is because that movement is OVER. Until we have another social revolution (although we really don't have that much to complain about now), true punk cannot be revived.SmartIdiot said:Urg... I can't stand when people get so po-faced about music. What the fuck is 'true' punk?
I say that, because if we look at what we've done in the past we can see what they did well and adapt it to suit our current situations, i.e advancements in technology, ideals etc.SmartIdiot said:As for having hit every corner of the musical world, that's what experimentation is for and if you think that going backwards to go forwards is a good idea
but rehashing the same stuff from a few decades ago would at least be a breath of fresh air from rehashing the same stuff from five minutes ago.SmartIdiot said:well... it isn't, as we would end up 'rehashing the same stuff'.
I was making a funny.SmartIdiot said:You're not screwed at all, you just need to look at things more positively.
I can perform Bat Out Of Hell in interpretive dance whilst entirely nekkid (of course, this would mean I'd have to be rather smashed)SmartIdiot said:What can you do to contribute to music?
I never said there was no point trying; in fact, quite the opposite. I said that I was screwed, but I didn't want to admit it (which generally means, 'I'm not going down without a fight in which I take a sizeable chunk outta your leg'.SmartIdiot said:Rather than 'it's all been done so there's no point trying'.
It was a rhetorical question. I know what punk was and still is. Yes, the first wave was over back in the early 80s, but since then there have been more waves, not to mention hardcore.Lexodus said:Alright, let me stop you right there. Punk was a movement of rebellion against society at the time, not just a musical genre. The reason you can't find true punk anymore is because that movement is OVER.
Are you having a laugh? I might suggest 'Grey Britain' by Gallows, a fantastic punk album that also accurately points out everything that is wrong (with Britain at least) at the moment. There is a LOT to get riled up about these days and there always will be. You are correct though, true punk cannot be revived because it isn't dead.Lexodus said:Until we have another social revolution (although we really don't have that much to complain about now), true punk cannot be revived.
Fair enough.Lexodus said:I say that, because if we look at what we've done in the past we can see what they did well and adapt it to suit our current situations, i.e advancements in technology, ideals etc.
Not necessarily. Often people will seek out the roots of current music and find their way back to the dinosaur bands. I see where you're coming from here and I agree that too many bands at the moment just seem to be ripping each other off. However people will notice if bands start ripping off music from a few decades ago. Just look at Oasis, everyone knows they just go through their Beatles back catalogue and decide which song they're going to steal next.Lexodus said:but rehashing the same stuff from a few decades ago would at least be a breath of fresh air from rehashing the same stuff from five minutes ago.
I suspected as much, but I risked it anyway.Lexodus said:I was making a funny.
Really?Lexodus said:I can perform Bat Out Of Hell in interpretive dance whilst entirely nekkid (of course, this would mean I'd have to be rather smashed)
I guess it was just the way you came across in your post. However you did admit it in the end so... feel better.Lexodus said:I never said there was no point trying; in fact, quite the opposite. I said that I was screwed, but I didn't want to admit it (which generally means, 'I'm not going down without a fight in which I take a sizeable chunk outta your leg'.