MW 2 : Just a bad game ?

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Dudemeister

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TB_Infidel said:
After reading many reviews of MW 2 and seeing it get scores of 9.0 + from almost every reviewer, I naturally presumed that MW 2 was going to be a very good game, when in fact it is a fairly poor game and shows most reviewers to be nothing more then fan boys.
Why is your opinion automatically fact?
It doesn't show that they're all fanboys, it shows that they like the game and you don't.
 

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Mazty said:
scnj said:
TB_Infidel said:
After reading many reviews of MW 2 and seeing it get scores of 9.0 + from almost every reviewer, I naturally presumed that MW 2 was going to be a very good game, when in fact it is a fairly poor game and shows most reviewers to be nothing more then fan boys.
I stopped reading here. Just because they had a different opinion than you doesn't make them fanboys.
However unfounded praise makes them fanboys...
But who decides the praise is unfounded? If they believe that the game deserves the praise they give it, it's their opinion. You may disagree, but that's tough shit really.
 

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well if thats what you think but, When it comes to spitscreen multiplayer MW2 is jesus. me and my friends have been playing it non-stop since it came out. so i challenge you to find a better splitscreen fps
 

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Well I played it on the Xbox and...I actually enjoyed it (sorry if that isn't reassuring to the PC gamers amongst us, I had fun on a game that you lot will probably hate).

Fair enough if you didn't like it, there were some parts of the game that pissed me off (the Favela in particular) but I don't think that the game was 'bad' strictly speaking, it just wasn't for everyone.

I have said it before and I have no doubt that I will say it on at least twenty seven more occasions before the end of the year on this forum alone, just because you do not like a game it doesn't mean that said game is bad (games and the opinions that people have of them are highly subjective).
 

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TB_Infidel said:
So, please tell me how did people over look all these faults and give it such good reviews?
Bribes. Here is an example [http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=seanmalstrom.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joystiq.com%2F2009%2F11%2F10%2Freview-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2%2F]. Take a look at the disclaimer at the end of the review. These, my friend, are the "wonderful" game journalists.
 

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I personally loved the whole thing, and to be honest I don't understand why everyone is so peeved about the short campaign. IW probably realised that nearly everyone who loved the first Modern Warfare loved it for the multi-player, so that's what they focused on this time round. I can see why people with no online capabilities would be upset about the game, but nowadays not many people don't have access.
 

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Mazty said:
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Pacifist Chris said:
Why did it get 9.0+? same reason Halo 3 did
Because they were decent games with a sturdy multiplayer fanbase on the console? Am I the only one who belives that Halo 3 deserves the score it got?
Yes, you are the only one.
Alright then. Good to know that the entire world sent one person to tell me that.
And another. Halo 3 = dated on it's release. Enough said and for a topic that's been done a billion times over.
I also agree, Halo 3 was a giant dissapointment
 

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TB_Infidel said:
*Snip*
So, please tell me how did people over look all these faults and give it such good reviews ?
Please try to keep posts objective and no fan boy spams.
You, sir, are awesome.
Though, I'd say I'm a CoD fan, not a fan-boy. : P

Played CoD1, 2 and 4 (Treyarch's "CoD" games don't count, obviously) and love them, doubted CoD4 for some time because they strayed away from the WWII setting making me wonder "A CoD set in modern times? A recipe for fail.", where I was mistaken. However, as that real CoD fan I'd dare say I am, I despise MW2 for its shortcomings and IW's horrid choices.

Hence, lately, I've started playing CoD1 and 2 all over again. It's a nice nostalgia..

If I ever actually try MW2 (Do not want to, as everyone and their dog plays it, and I want to set an example), it will be the single player, and for one reason only... Captain Price : |
XD
 

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I came from the position of only briefly playing mw1 and not particularly enjoying it, from this stance I was hoping for mw2 to suck hard so I could taste the bitter tears of all the many MANY fanboys around the internet. Two things happened which made me buy the game, 1. the trailer looked awesome 2. Sainsburys sold it at a ridiculously reduced price so I picked it up figuring I could sell it for more after I tested it.

So I went into singleplayer expecting to dislike it but you know what? I found it great fun, the story is pretty poor yes, and short yes, but never has a game got my adrenaline levels up like this one has. Its boiled down fun.

The icing on the cake is that even though I enjoyed it most fanboys can't stop moaning about what IW have got wrong... mmmm bitter tears. Anyone who bought mw2 and then complains about the story being too short is an idiot. There were clues around... like all over the internet, it really wasnt a big secret. If you need a game you can spend your entire free time on buy an mmorpg subscription and we'll all be happier.
 

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TB_Infidel said:
After reading many reviews of MW 2 and seeing it get scores of 9.0 + from almost every reviewer, I naturally presumed that MW 2 was going to be a very good game, when in fact it is a fairly poor game and shows most reviewers to be nothing more then fan boys.

Now I begin my list of what is wrong with this game.
Firstly the campaign is far to short. Being able to complete an FPS in one sitting is sometimes expected, but to have a campaign only 5 hours long, on the second hardest difficulty is a joke. Why do game developers think it is fine to produce games with shorter and shorter campaigns?

After completing the campaign so quickly,I decided to go onto the mutliplayer and this is where the real faults of MW2 show. My first gripe is with the lobby system. Why the hell did they get rid of dedicated servers?! No FPS has had private host servers for years and for a very good reason. The amount of lag experienced in a standard match is ridiculous and its makes for an incredibly frustrating experience, and that is if the host does not disconnect and you have to wait 30 seconds to find a new host, or the game closes. Also due to a poor lobby system, the player can not choose the map and this leads to numerous players leaving lobbies which results in a 5 minute wait to start a game.

To make this game even better, you also two very badly designed mutliplayer game mechanics. The first problem is fairly common - over powered boosts and power ups. These come in the form of helicopters, air strikes etc. These just make the game very hard and annoying. The second problem I've have not seen in an FPS for a very long time - limited peripheral vision. It is not very noticeable in the campaign, but in the mutliplayer it is a disaster and results in you missing people anywhere beyond 45 degrees to your left or right. This also causes people to camp in corners of rooms and to run around with the knife - at what point did MW2 become Counter-Strike?

There are a few more problems I could delve into about MW 2, but ill just quickly note them to save time: Average graphics, terrible voice quality for mutliplayer, small number of people allowed per game and a generic game which does nothing new.


So, please tell me how did people over look all these faults and give it such good reviews ?
Please try to keep posts objective and no fan boy spams.
I think you missed all the MW2 news like a month ago. Welcome to November 2009! Hope it doesn't take you too long to get acclimated.

Ya none of this is news and you should have looked into the game more before buying it.
he said no fanboy remarks moron
 

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anyone who says it's a bad game is foolish really. it isn't a bad game. it's a good game. it just wasn't what people have hoped for. having played it (quite a lot) i can say that it's good, at least in my opinion. everyone just thought it would be super amazing compared to the first. which it wasn't. but it is by no means a bad game.
Wow, please be more vague.
I'm foolish because it's good in your opinion - either explain how its a good game, or go away and stop following reviews as you obviously don't have the capacity to make your own decision about a game.
 

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TB_Infidel said:
After reading many reviews of MW 2 and seeing it get scores of 9.0 + from almost every reviewer, I naturally presumed that MW 2 was going to be a very good game, when in fact it is a fairly poor game and shows most reviewers to be nothing more then fan boys.

Now I begin my list of what is wrong with this game.
Firstly the campaign is far to short. Being able to complete an FPS in one sitting is sometimes expected, but to have a campaign only 5 hours long, on the second hardest difficulty is a joke. Why do game developers think it is fine to produce games with shorter and shorter campaigns?

After completing the campaign so quickly,I decided to go onto the mutliplayer and this is where the real faults of MW2 show. My first gripe is with the lobby system. Why the hell did they get rid of dedicated servers?! No FPS has had private host servers for years and for a very good reason. The amount of lag experienced in a standard match is ridiculous and its makes for an incredibly frustrating experience, and that is if the host does not disconnect and you have to wait 30 seconds to find a new host, or the game closes. Also due to a poor lobby system, the player can not choose the map and this leads to numerous players leaving lobbies which results in a 5 minute wait to start a game.

To make this game even better, you also two very badly designed mutliplayer game mechanics. The first problem is fairly common - over powered boosts and power ups. These come in the form of helicopters, air strikes etc. These just make the game very hard and annoying. The second problem I've have not seen in an FPS for a very long time - limited peripheral vision. It is not very noticeable in the campaign, but in the mutliplayer it is a disaster and results in you missing people anywhere beyond 45 degrees to your left or right. This also causes people to camp in corners of rooms and to run around with the knife - at what point did MW2 become Counter-Strike?

There are a few more problems I could delve into about MW 2, but ill just quickly note them to save time: Average graphics, terrible voice quality for mutliplayer, small number of people allowed per game and a generic game which does nothing new.


So, please tell me how did people over look all these faults and give it such good reviews ?
Please try to keep posts objective and no fan boy spams.
Aside from the lack of dedicated servers and length of campaign, I completely disagree with you.

Air support isn't overpowered, you just have to take it down, which isn't that hard with a stinger missile or 2. No idea what you're talking about with the limited peripheral vision, I can see everything just fine. And it's an FPS, pretty much ANY shooter has people who sit around and camp in corners.

Graphics are better than most games, the voice quality is purely dependent on the mic of the user, too many people would just be a clusterfuck of deaths. Don't know what to tell you about the "generic game" bit, seeing as that's just your opinion.

I respect how you feel about this game, but I kindly disagree with you, in short.
 

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Well saying a game is too short is not criticism
It is if you've paid less for a game and gotten more out of it. To put it in perspective: the Pokemon games cost, what, thirty bucks? I still play them. I also picked up Oblivion GOTY for less than launch price; I've logged hundreds of hours in it. Mass Effect? Twenty bucks, and it gave me more than thirty hours of fun. Even arcade games like Shadow Complex didn't cost as much as a retail game and it gave me more gameplay than most $60 shooters.

Now, take the people who paid at least sixty bucks for MewTwo (I pity those who bought the CE), and that's horribly imbalanced.
 

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Should have known it would have been on PC. I can't comment on the other points really except the first.

Although I really enjoyed the campaign, it was stupidly short and easy, including veteran, I suppose though if the only gripe you have with a game is that you want more of it it's not really a complaint.

TB_Infidel said:
The first problem is fairly common - over powered boosts and power ups. These come in the form of helicopters, air strikes etc. These just make the game very hard and annoying.
I don't understand that either, although they are overpowered, this is because they are hard to get a nine kill streak I believe for a decent helicopter that takes more than one rocket to take down, although they may seem overpowered they are fairly easy to take down, especially in comparison to world at war's tank's.

I honestly have no idea why it is rated so high, but I think this will turn into Halo, which is no way a bad thing, if the single player is gonna stay as good as it is story wise I'll happily buy it, even if it is a little short, the multilayer can get a bit annoying and hectic at times though.

EDIT: Almost forgot, average graphics? I don't think so, I'm a console gamer so I can't comment on the PC version, but compared to cod 4 and WAW this is at a much higher quality, even compared to other games around at the moment like Dragon Age origins it is a lot better graphically.
 

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Ok, the whole shortness argument was very well answered by Russ Pitts in his review, that being, yes, the campaign is short time wise, but definetly not short on "oh sh!t" moments and fun game play.

As for the multipayer, the lobby system is the same as it was in MW1. Lag only happens for two reasons, 1) you have a bad internet connection, or 2) a bad host. Reason 2 isn't as big a deal as everyone makes it out to be, (at least on the PS3 its not). Yes, its annoying when you have to connect to a new host, but, I've clocked in over a days worth of online play and only been reconnected to a new host 3-5 times. So, in the over 200 games I've played, thats not a bad fail rate by any stretch of the imagination.

As for the Perks/Killstreaks being overpowered, idk what you're talking about. The online play is very well balanced, so I think you're just complaining because you died too much.

Now, for the rest of your complaints, I', positive you're just making stuff up, either that, or the PS3 version is radically different from anything else. That limited view is just stupid, its the same view as any other FPS. Very few people run around with the sole purpose of knifing, and camping in corners has become standard fare since regenerating health was introduced.

So, stop whining and making up stupid complaints about a perfectly good game.
 

Elsarild

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most of your compliants are those of standard noewbish complianths that i don't normally bother with.

But nontheless, the dedicated server has been over a month long debate with IW and if you didn't see this comming before you bougth the game, too bad, you didn't research enough i guess.

And for the killstreaks that is just pety, so what? getting a seat in a AC130 takes 11 kills, meaning, it is for people who know how to aim and shoot, therefor meaning that people know how to play the game, makeing you a very whiny person.

third, for a view angel, first of all, like any other game this can be changed in the config_mp file, so if you played the other games in the series you would have known this.

This is just a another hate review of MW2, because of people not reading into the stuff.