MW3 Minor Spoiler, (A Death scene)

[HK_01]

Wow, that scene was just so....bad. Full of clichés. As to what I think of it: Not really bad. I see what they're trying to do and it's quite common. It's also not very violent, you don't actually see her die and it's not like the player is made to kill a kid, it's just a cut-scene.

 

[tendaji]

It's more about how CoD is forcing another "shock" scene into their game in order to achieve more free publicity to sell it. It's not controversial to gamers, but media eat up this stuff, giving Activision lots of free advertising. MW4 will include raiding an orphanage for the blind in which terrorists have taken the little orphans hostage and start executing them.

 

[gcninja]

Was that Ghost and Gaz's voice actor in the end there? Jesus, you think they would've used him enough.

it had to be gaz's. Ghost died in the MW2 remember? He was burned to death after retrieving data from makarovs house.

 

[Dominic Burchnall]

When attacks like this happen in reality, there is a significant chance that children will get caught up in it. Yes, it's terrible when it happens, but youth does not grant invunerability, and when you're essentially making a game about World War Three, it would be unrealistic to suggest that ordinary people wouldn't be affected like this. It's life, it's what happens. There's no point in trying to shy away from it, pretend it doesn't exist.

 

[hazabaza1]

Was that Ghost and Gaz's voice actor in the end there? Jesus, you think they would've used him enough.

it had to be gaz's. Ghost died in the MW2 remember? He was burned to death after retrieving data from makarovs house.

Notice how I said 'and'. They're the same voice actor, I just think it's a new character.

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Plus, I think that bullet to the face that Gaz took would have been fairly lethal as well.

 

[Chaos1228]

The Call of Duty series is desensitizing people to violence and death. Their games are aimed at an immature audience that will think killing everyone who is not the same as you is the right thing to do.

Bull. Im very mature, play those games, and don't think that at all. Don't make ignorant statements like that without some evidence to back yourself up.

OT: This wasn't very necessary at all. I know they are trying to make you hate the bad guys, but it would have a greater effect if it was a large crowd instead of just 3 people.

 

[gcninja]

Was that Ghost and Gaz's voice actor in the end there? Jesus, you think they would've used him enough.

it had to be gaz's. Ghost died in the MW2 remember? He was burned to death after retrieving data from makarovs house.

Notice how I said 'and'. They're the same voice actor, I just think it's a new character.

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Plus, I think that bullet to the face that Gaz took would have been fairly lethal as well.

I do apologize, I did not realize that. And if shooters have taught us anything, a bullet to the face is as deadly as a bite from a newborn puppy.

 

[imnot]

HOLY SHIT!
I think I saw some green!!!

OT: That was hilariously bad.

 

[monkey_man]

Pffft. Call that a death Scene? there was just a big explosion, no biggy. I wonder WHY, CoD thinks it needs to shock people, there's no real reason to do that. I think it's just telling us what a dark and grim game it is, so people will stop bullying it. To no avail of course, most (sane) people recognize it for what it is. Glorified gun violence, in a prettily wrapped package. Where half the present has to be found first. And the other half has to be bought.

That's why I'm going to buy BF3! The same bloody thing, only focused on team (and helicopters,tanks, and massive destruction)! HAHHAHAHAA TRY AND STOP ME. (at least, I hope it's based on team, I haven't played battlefield since 2, and that one had at least a slight idea of a team's importance)

And yes, the Dead Island thing was more shocking, But I didn't care for that either, Nor did I like the game. Too bland. There must be a connection >

Ooh and Prey had scenes with kiddies too! I did like those scenes a lot. I am just Evil like that. Liked Prey as a game too. Dem Connections be everywhere!

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

Why do people seem to think this is in the game to cause controversy? Plenty of games, movies, tv shows, and whatnot have had scenes where kids die. It's not that big of a deal. Its not like you kill the kid or anything, its just there to make you mad and establish who the bad guys are, while driving home that whole "war sucks" message the games have.

Glad somebody else understands this. Ever since the COD franchise steered away from "SUCK ALLIED LEAD, NAZIS" and focused on fictional, morally ambiguous, politically-motivated conflicts (barring WaW), the tone of the series has shifted dramatically from tales of somber, heroic sacrifice, to "everything's gone to shit and it's all because of war". The first three games were respectful and reverent in their treatment of the subject matter, likely because they focused on real events and sacrifices of real people that were made for the greater good; now that the narrative is entirely of their own making, however, they've trended towards putting their games in settings rife with conflict for the sake of giving the players battles to fight, but also make certain that they convey what a terrible world it would be to live in.


It's easy to dismiss the developers as including all these atrocious things for the sake of mere shock value, but after a lot of critical analysis, I feel that's not giving them nearly enough credit; it really all strikes me as the makings of a subtle cautionary tale woven into a production that is, by necessity, entertaining above all else. To quote Destructoid (regarding the infamous level "No Russian" where you shoot up an airport full of civilians):

Brad Rice argues that such a harrowing scene takes the will to fight out of him, that it makes him question if such a fight is worth the lives as stake. I can only see that as statement in favor of the game, rather than in condemnation of it. That a game could so powerfully affect Rice's state of mind, simply through watching it passively, is quite an amazing achievement if you ask me. Perhaps Infinity Ward hopes to raise and possibly answer the questions Brad throws up ? is such sacrifice worth it? Should we fight such dirty battles for the greater good? How much loss of civilian life is acceptable in the name of American security?

 

[hazabaza1]

Was that Ghost and Gaz's voice actor in the end there? Jesus, you think they would've used him enough.

it had to be gaz's. Ghost died in the MW2 remember? He was burned to death after retrieving data from makarovs house.

Notice how I said 'and'. They're the same voice actor, I just think it's a new character.

Spoiler

Plus, I think that bullet to the face that Gaz took would have been fairly lethal as well.

I do apologize, I did not realize that. And if shooters have taught us anything, a bullet to the face is as deadly as a bite from a newborn puppy.

'S'all good. But don't forget, it was a cutscene. In shooters, everyone suddenly loses their superpowers in cutscenes.

 

[pwnatornr1]

FUCKING FINALLY, we can move past this shit.
fable 2, fallout 3, i could go on forever.
i get my knickers in a twist when i can't kill 'em, especcially if it's a realistic game.
seriously.

 

[Lt. Vinciti]

I came across this very randomly, http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2011/11/modern-warfare-3-child-death-outrage.html or http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dZhRNAeE9rk

Please take a minute to judge the video. You watched it ? Good, Okay as we can clearly see in what appears to be MW3 a child is killed by a bomb blast. Will this cause unnecessary controversy ? and what are your opinions ?

My opinion: I honestly don't have a problem with it, it's sad and a little disturbing but really I don't see it crossing any limits, the player is not actually interacting in anyway it's really just a cut scene and their have been far worse things in games then this so I'll happily let it pass.

I laughed.

I laughed...because they are trying harder to be HARDCORE for their HARDCORE fans

 

[Simeon Ivanov]

Is it wrong that I laughed my arse off at that?
It was so abrupt, it was hilarious.

It's almost as if they took Yahtzee's words to heart.

"Hmm...it seems shooting hundreds of innocent russians wasn't enough. What can we do to 1up that?!"

"Blow up a little girl. Imagine how FOX would cover that!"

Actually, I laughed too ... BOOM! Out of fucking nowhere!

 

[Sagacious Zhu]

This has "trying too hard" written all over it. After the nuke in MW1, it seems like the developers are trying to shoehorn "shocking" imagery into every game they make. At this point, it's starting to come off as cheap pathos.

If they follow this trend, then MW4 is going to have a scene where a bus full or orphans collides with a semi-truck carrying unloved pound puppies and the player has to put them all out of their misery with a well placed shot to the head.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

Meh, it was only a tourist.

In all seriousness, that didn't seem too bad. Like someone else said earlier, MW1 nuked a city where tons of unseen children died. Homefront killed a kid's parents right in front of...it which I found to be in poorer tastes. This wasn't as funny as I would have thought though so I guess this was just a fail all around. I don't see why the father died though, maybe he dropped the camera in shock but he seemed far enough away from the blast radius to have lived.

The bomb that actually went off was a gas bomb. At the end of the video they said that the gas had reached downing street which is quite a way away than where the people were in that video. So its probably likely that he died from either the gas, or the massive explosion.

Clegane]

My opinion: I honestly don't have a problem with it, it's sad and a little disturbing but really I don't see it crossing any limits, the player is not actually interacting in anyway it's really just a cut scene and their have been far worse things in games then this so I'll happily let it pass.

Its not the fact that they killed a child, the issue is, if you watch the full clip (which I think has by now been thoroughly purged by Activision) it just randomly skips to the cutscene half way through the mission. It's absolutely pointless and only there for a cheap controversy boost. No wonder it was 'accidentally leaked.' That's why I have an issue with it, its pathetic really.

Also, old news... Yawn.

The scene in this video was part of the CoD series' loading screens. They normally never put Cutscenes in the actual missions, they put the cutscenes and FMVs in the middle of each of the missions. So basically, your point is invalid!

OT: I dont really care honestly, It's quite a good way to show us why you are going to be fighting in london. It's quite clever since they didn't just cop out and just make the bad guys invade london, they had a gas bomb blow up and then you have to stop it spreading, or minimize the casualties. Still, this will probably be in FOX News sometime seeing as its a CoD game which means it will be sold to millions of little children, thus warping their fragile little minds.

 

[lacktheknack]

It'll be marginally controversial. Which is hypocritical.

I don't remember the great controversy of Uwe Boll's Auschwitz.

http://www.elseptimoarte.net/imagenes/noticias/12657.jpg

(This scene ends exactly how you think it does.)

Or the climax of Silent Hill 3, which combines gory teen abortion with baby-eating and some major artistic license with biology.

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The CoD scene is positively tame.

 

[kazeryu]

I've seen worse (dead island trailer) but I don't like.

 

[TheRussian]

The Call of Duty series is desensitizing people to violence and death. Their games are aimed at an immature audience that will think killing everyone who is not the same as you is the right thing to do.

Bull. Im very mature, play those games, and don't think that at all. Don't make ignorant statements like that without some evidence to back yourself up.

OT: This wasn't very necessary at all. I know they are trying to make you hate the bad guys, but it would have a greater effect if it was a large crowd instead of just 3 people.

Huh, that's what I get when I don't log off the Escapist and my roommate decides to propagate his misinformed opinions through my online personality.

 

[SnakeoilSage]

Sounds like a childish ploy to bring attention to the game.