MW3 rage. Oh, how unique.

[ElPatron]

From a realism point of view, it actually makes sense that a shotgun that's over 100 years old doesn't do as well as all the new-fangled high tech gizmos found in a game titled "modern warfare."

If you get shot by 12ga buckshot, doesn't matter what gun shot it.

I know people will rage at me for saying this, but a shotgun is a glorified tube. All it does it keeping the lead/steel shot going straight in a contained space so that the burning poweder can propel it forward at good speeds.
And that's why I love them.

Why are you aiming for the legs?

Perhaps his view was not parallel to the ground for some reason? You know, people also use the Y axis one in a while.

Since it was a shotgun, taking buckshot to the legs is sure incapacitation because of the multiple hits at close range countering the lower damage multipliers in the legs.

That's why he didn't bother to aim to the chest.

It's an isolated happening, he didn't say "I always aim for the legs and I have found that it's not effective".

I was also disappointed that the M1014 didn't return

Urgh, I love that gun. The Benelli M4 with the military stock is one of the prettiest shotguns to have "tacticooled".

And the 4 shot tube actually balances the weapon, I just think the gun should have a shorter magazine tube (like in BF3) until you attach the "Extended mags".

 

[StBishop]

Im still dissapointed that we dont have a perk that gives you a big ballistic armor.

Like 35% less damage but can sprint very little.

(or something)

that would be cool

i dont play cod that much though

I see someone likes to camp and feels he needs to soak up extra damage while sitting in a corner like a boss.

Hey i see someone who like hairy men bum. Give a call by the end of the month sailor.

(fuck you)

1. You've been reported (presumably multiple times)
2. You may wish to avoid personal attacks. It's against the rules. Name calling also makes all relevant arguments you have seem less valuable due to the immaturity they're accompanied by.
3. Prejudice is an ugly thing. It makes you seem closed minded or ignorant. It'll help everyone (mostly you) if you try to drop your prejudices or at least keep them internal.
4. I'm not having a go at you. Believe it or not, I'm trying to do you a favour by replying to you rather than just reporting and moving on.

Im not fond of being insulted for no reason over a something i said about a game. This guy started stupid shit for no reason and i have all the right in the world to call him out for it.

I think we have a difference of opinion on a number of things.

Firstly. Someone saying you camp, that's not an insult; it's an observation, and a fair one at that. The set up you described is perfect for camping and I'm sorry but assuming you're a camper based off of the only information given isn't just a fair assumption, it's the best and most logical one.

Next, you don't actually have the right to personally attack people on these forums. It's actually a condition of signing up to these forums that you follow our rules. One of which is posting in a respectful way. inb4 Freedom of speech.

There's a difference between calling someone out on "insulting" you and this:

Hey i see someone who like hairy men bum. Give a call by the end of the month sailor.

(fuck you)

I recommend you re-evaluate your approach to conversing on these forums. It'll make it more enjoyable for everyone.

 

[lRookiel]

My CoD rage is how somebody with a slightly better connection than you can beat you because all 10 of your shots didn't register while 2 of his did.

Yeah, pretty much the same here. I hate how the server has a 'host' with perfect connection and they are usually the one who gets the best score aswell -.-.

 

[C2Ultima]

So the gun is dreadful. So was the Olympia on Black Ops, and that's what made it fun to use, especially when I went 21-5 over people using the Famas.

 

[ediblemitten]

Aw, the 1887 is crappy? WHAT A SHAME. After MW2 I have no pity for people who ***** about that piece of overpowered garbage.

 

[Discord]

Nah dude the 1997 is out, Everyone And I mean EVERYONE uses the Striker. I mean come on you play with a shotgun enough and you can get a perk that gives is extra damage or range, it's just silly.

Everyone is kinda upset about the FMG akimbo more in my opinon (Which proves my point, "Do not pay attention to the stats"). I think most of the maps and guns are geared toward SMG's and Shotguns. Personally I always thought it was annoying so that's why half my classes are Sniper Rifles and Maybe the rare MK-14 or Type 95, I just don't like getting up close anymore because everyone seems to break out the FMG or the Striker and just spray, spray, spray.

I rather strike from a distance

 

[shadow.humper]

Why are you aiming for the legs?

Perhaps his view was not parallel to the ground for some reason? You know, people also use the Y axis one in a while.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. I didn't ask you, but your opinion was very helpful, as I was not aware of the third axis known as "Y" by many people.
I would had concluded he was a midget had you not pointed it out.
Since it was a shotgun, taking buckshot to the legs is sure incapacitation because of the multiple hits at close range countering the lower damage multipliers in the legs.

That's why he didn't bother to aim to the chest.
There are high damage multipliers in the chest, which can counter 'surviving-a-shot' if you hit him right..
INTERESTING FACT YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR #1: The damage multipliers in the head are even higher than that.
INTERESTING FACT YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR #2: The gun being held by the the enemy model has no damage multiplier applied to it.
Hey, I'm not saying he can't aim for the legs, I was just asking why he did.

 

[ElPatron]

I was not aware of the third axis known as "Y" by many people.

Y is the second axis, Z is the third.

There are high damage multipliers in the chest, which can counter 'surviving-a-shot' if you hit him right..

How many shot does the shotguns in MW3 shoot? 8? 9? Either way, even with low multipliers 4 hits would be enough.

INTERESTING FACT YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR #1: The damage multipliers in the head are even higher than that.

If he had time to aim for the head, he would. Irrelevant.

You shoot as soon as you have a good target in sight. He had a shotgun, and the legs were in his sights.

I wouldn't waste time aiming at the chest, I would expect a kill from 4-5 close range hits out of 8. Or 9, I don't know.

 

[Kahunaburger]

This is why everyone needs to get on the Tribes: Ascend beta. You know how RMB in MW games is the "aim down sights" button? In Tribes: Ascend, RMB is the jetpack button.

 

[McNinja]

Haha, wait until you try the Spas 12. I cried when I saw what had been done to it. I got 3 hitmarkers hitting people from knifing range.

MW3 is a shit game, period. Assassin is OP as fuck due to no Stopping Power, the maps are a clusterfuck in all the wrong ways, the spawns are broken, the gun balancing is atrocious.... Its just a really, really bad game, and it shows. Higher sales than any other game, but less people playing it than COD4 in its day.

Play MW2. And by that I mean Alteriw, not the mess that is the original online.

And out of all things you choose to complain about, you pick the Model 1887? Really? You don't have any qualms etc.

aaand the floodgates have opened.

It is a shame, though, that killstreaks should be overpowered, for something that's just supposed to add an extra dimension to the multiplayer gameplay for it to just devolve into a 'race for the rocket launcher' type thing;

This pissed me the fuck off. Seriously. If anyone can tell me why ScrubbyMcNoobPants over here, going 2-35, should be able to shoot down my 17 killstreak, I would be much obliged. This really bugged me in Black Ops and MW3.

I actually agree. I actually made all of my five classes in MW3 have Stingers, and more often than not I shoot down Attack Choppers before they can really do anything. Well, either that or I die. What I love is when the dude says "enemy UAV/HIND/Pave Low spotted!" and I whip out my Stinger, scan the entire sky, and see nothing. I put the Stinger away, and the Chopper comes around the building and puts a few dozen rounds in my face. Or when I hear "enemy UAV spotted" and there's no UAV in the sky. At all. I've literally run around an entire map with my stinger pointed at the sky and there was nothing in it.

On the subject of Attack Choppers, I had one experience that really shows how terrible this game really is. I was playing on Fallen, and the enemy called in a Hind. I was about to go indoors when suddenly HOST MIGRATION appeared. Then, as the game was counting down (i'm still unable to move at this point), the Hind came around the corner of the building, and the nanosecond the game started, it raped me with bullets. That was the most unbelievable BS I have ever witnessed in regards to Killstreaks.

I would say this game should be burned, but saying this game should be burned would be an insult to fire.

Trust me, it's not as bad as the "game" that insult was first used for.

I read that review. It was awesome. I think FATAL and MW3 are both abominations, but just for different reasons: FATAL is simply an abomination of words and ideas that must be destroyed, and MW3 is an abomination of programming and terrible mechanics.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

From a realism point of view, it actually makes sense that a shotgun that's over 100 years old doesn't do as well as all the new-fangled high tech gizmos found in a game titled "modern warfare."

If you get shot by 12ga buckshot, doesn't matter what gun shot it.

I know people will rage at me for saying this, but a shotgun is a glorified tube. All it does it keeping the lead/steel shot going straight in a contained space so that the burning poweder can propel it forward at good speeds.
And that's why I love them.

Except 100 years ago they didn't use the same gunpowder that they use today, so a hundred year old shotgun still wouldn't be as powerful.

 

[ElPatron]

Except 100 years ago they didn't use the same gunpowder that they use today, so a hundred year old shotgun still wouldn't be as powerful.

Gunpowder is stored in the shell, not in the shotgun itself.

You're not making any sense, some people have done $30 kill-sticks that can contain the pressure of a shotgun shell, and they are as "powerful" as a modern shotgun.

Can I ask you if you ever shot several types of shotguns? Because if you compare them, even a difference of 100fps between different barrels is not going to matter when a 3" shell was unloaded on someone.

 

[The_Lost_King]

Any body else think it's ridiculous that shot guns got moved to primary then nerfed it doesn't make sense Nerf if secondary buff or keep the same if moving to primary what part of this confused infinity ward?

 

[Terminate421]

Im still dissapointed that we dont have a perk that gives you a big ballistic armor.

Like 35% less damage but can sprint very little.

(or something)

that would be cool

i dont play cod that much though

Trust me when I say that would kill any form of balance.

Call of Duty is supposed to be a spawn-kill-spawn sort of deal. Its fun but changing health or damage output AT ALL has lead to nothing but misery. Call of Duty 4 is the only game that got the effectiveness of the guns right, why can't they learn from it?

Black Ops came close but the problem was hit detection and the flow of how the guns worked. Seriously, am I the only one who feels that in a Treyarch game I am not even using a gun? But some sort of Air Pellet gun?

Oh yes, but for MW3,

The Type 95 and MK14 are so overpowered it flies through the roof. What happened to the FAL? It was perfect, nice power with enough recoil to hold people away from using it too much.

Type 95 is like if the FAMAS from MW2 got steriods, GAH! FMG'S are so inconsistent for me its annoying.

Oh, and the Striker, spray and pray more lead farther than anything else?

I do hate how they NERFED the M16 to the point of uselessness, when a gun like that takes 3 bursts to kill someone, thats a problem. Two at the most.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Except 100 years ago they didn't use the same gunpowder that they use today, so a hundred year old shotgun still wouldn't be as powerful.

Gunpowder is stored in the shell, not in the shotgun itself.

You're not making any sense, some people have done $30 kill-sticks that can contain the pressure of a shotgun shell, and they are as "powerful" as a modern shotgun.

Can I ask you if you ever shot several types of shotguns? Because if you compare them, even a difference of 100fps between different barrels is not going to matter when a 3" shell was unloaded on someone.

I understand that it's contained in the shell, but that doesn't mean that a shotgun that's over 100 years old can use modern shells. There's a very good chance that it would explode in your hands.

 

[ElPatron]

I understand that it's contained in the shell, but that doesn't mean that a shotgun that's over 100 years old can use modern shells. There's a very good chance that it would explode in your hands.

If a shotgun barrel was meant for 12GA, it will shoot those pressures. It is not made out of PVC tube.

Yes, there are loads that will burst older shotguns. But those loads:
-- Are loads not used by the military. Most of them are actually "novelty" loads that not even regular shooters buy. I sincerely think anyone who falls for that marketing is stupid. The only understandable reason to try them is exactly that. Trying them after you have heard so many jokes about them.
-- Can also burst more modern shotguns not rated for those pressures.

A M1 Garand will fire modern loads too, and it was never meant for that.

Can you experience and read some more about guns before trying to "school" me?

 

[chrono16]

What sniper rifle are you using? I have no problem getting One Hit KO's with the uhh ASSR rifle i think its called. And my crosshairs are never off. Its got a 1.5% damage multiplier from the i think lower chest all the way up. so anywhere in there is instant death.

The L118A, it's default appearance looks like this-

I'm just probably having a delay problem, but I do have great connection with no lag spikes or the sort. Perhaps the perks I have chosen for it needs improvement, mind if you tell me how you snipe with what perks you go with? I'd appreciate that very much Zoidberg chrono16.

I use the AS50, with Blind Eye Pro, Assassin Pro, and Marksman Pro. I use claymores and smoke grenades and magnum for secondary. Im no expert sniper but this gets the job done for me. Hope that helps =)!

 

[LetalisK]

More OT: The changes made to 3, especially with the re-structuring of the kill streaks has made the game much more balanced and the new level designs which discourage (although of course cannot eliminate) the camping that plagued 2 have made the game much more user friendly. It now comfortably fits into the 'easy to get into, hard to master' sweet spot of game difficulty, instead of 2's 'hard to get into, glitch to master' zone.

I never understood this sentiment. I never felt MW2 was that camper friendly save for one map. Of course, what I was comparing it to in my head was CoD4, which is Camp Campington with its level design.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

More OT: The changes made to 3, especially with the re-structuring of the kill streaks has made the game much more balanced and the new level designs which discourage (although of course cannot eliminate) the camping that plagued 2 have made the game much more user friendly. It now comfortably fits into the 'easy to get into, hard to master' sweet spot of game difficulty, instead of 2's 'hard to get into, glitch to master' zone.

I never understood this sentiment. I never felt MW2 was that camper friendly save for one map. Of course, what I was comparing it to in my head was CoD4, which is Camp Campington with its level design.

See I never played CoD4 online, so wouldn't know how bad that was for camping, but 2 definitely had 'hotspots' on each map that players and even whole teams would race to occupy. The plane on terminal, the crane on highrise, the cargo containers in skidrow, the bunker in wasteland, the rooftop overlooking the market in Karachi, the cliff top in Afghan, I could go on but I think you get my drift. It perhaps slants my view that I used to play Hardcore Team Deathmatch in MW2, in which people were understandably more cautious, but I found camping to be a real issue in 2. Maybe it was my fault for playing Hardcore, but it always seemed that some areas of each level were specifically designed for easy defence - and you could bet your bottom dollar that someone on the enemy team would set up there with a LMG and not move for the rest of the game.

 

[Dizzle26]

Eh. Don't get me started on the Striker. The way people fire it makes me look like I'm recovering from hand surgery. x_x Seriously. You can't fire it super fast -without- a modded controller. I've tried it. It doesn't respond as fast as you can pull the trigger. Hell, the MK14 does.