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TheDstryr9 said:
Just gonna throw this out there, but someone already corrected me and I acknowledged it.SageRuffin said:
My BIG problem with X-men
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Dude he is powerful, I mean if you had to fight him in the middle of a city he can use all the metals around him to crush you or shield himself. Also any metal on youself (like a coat zipper or mobile phone) can be turn against you.
There probably more detail about his powers (I'm not a expect) like I think it's magnetic field that give him limited flight if he is near bit metal structure.
There probably more detail about his powers (I'm not a expect) like I think it's magnetic field that give him limited flight if he is near bit metal structure.
One things I dislike about the movies is that they never really showed Magneto's strength, except for that one scene in X2 where he breaks out of jail. He seemed like a much bigger threat in the comics. At one point he ripped the adamantium out of Wolverine. I hope in the next two movies they show more of his power.
Magneto's power is not weak! He has performed feats such as lowering Asteroid M/Avalon into Earth's atmosphere (Uncanny X-Men 304) which weighed millions of tonnnes. In X-Men 25 he created an electro-magnetic pulse that circled the entire globe, frying every active piece of electronic equipment which killed thousands of people in hospitals world-wide alone. (This was done as a "corrective" measure on his part as the world's governments had activated a system of satellites that skewed the planet's EM field enough that for Magneto, entering it meant death.)
The problem with his character is that his abilities (like just about any other X-man you could name) depend hugely on who is doing the writing at the time. Hell, am I the only person who remembers how god-like they made Iceman in the mid 90's? Not that I complained.
I realise that most people here are talking about the new movie, just wanted to provide some perspective from a long-time comic reader.
The problem with his character is that his abilities (like just about any other X-man you could name) depend hugely on who is doing the writing at the time. Hell, am I the only person who remembers how god-like they made Iceman in the mid 90's? Not that I complained.
I realise that most people here are talking about the new movie, just wanted to provide some perspective from a long-time comic reader.
My view is pretty much limited to the cartoons and the movies to be honest , but I think I got the main idea now . Still , as you guys said , it all depends on who is writing the comics .
It seems to me that you could make pretty much anyone become god like in a comic if you make some twists . Lets take ( random made-up mutant) Water Boy , his power is to conjure water for the football team . Next comic he can move entire lakes , then oceans , then he can drain the water from your body and kill you and in the last comic he is reveled to be the son of Jesus and destroys a planet just by looking at it . Get the picture?
It seems to me that you could make pretty much anyone become god like in a comic if you make some twists . Lets take ( random made-up mutant) Water Boy , his power is to conjure water for the football team . Next comic he can move entire lakes , then oceans , then he can drain the water from your body and kill you and in the last comic he is reveled to be the son of Jesus and destroys a planet just by looking at it . Get the picture?
When you consider our dependency on metal, I think it was quite a fitting thing for Magneto to be able to control. It was also the best power for someone to use against powerful X-men like Wolverine and Colossus... and you don't fuck with anybody who can potentially kill Wolverine.
Really?Gwarr said:
REalLy!?
I always thought of controlling magnetisum as being cheap as hell. you intantly take out most of the worlds military force, it took the US military two movies to realize that they should use plastic guns. And did you miss the moving the whole of the Golden Gate bridge in X3 (bad movie, yes, but still...)
Plus, you dont need to being powerful to be a threat, you just need to be able to pursuade a large number of mutants of varying power (but mostly very powerful) on your side; Which Magneto does in fucking spades.
Asteroid M is a giant asteroid Magneto built his base of operations on. He kept it in orbit using his powers of magnetism. He shifted the world's magnetic poles to confuse Xavier's mental powers (dunno how that works but it did) and he can at a moment's notice, stop your brain from functioning properly but slowing the iron in your blood stream.
Seriously, Magneto is in the top three of all time powerful mutants. (Phoenix doesn't count, she's cosmic.)
/geekout
Seriously, Magneto is in the top three of all time powerful mutants. (Phoenix doesn't count, she's cosmic.)
/geekout
He's not only disgustingly overpowered, he's also intelligent and ruthless to boot. He's originally the other half of Xavier's original think-tank, co-designer of Cerebro. He's also not really a villain in the traditional sense, more like an anti-hero. His experiences in WWII as a Jew left him with a bad taste in his mouth over how humans treat anything different from them. Magnetism is one of the strongest forces in the universe, btw, extremely complex and not limited to iron specifically.
I remember one comic where the Genoshans (anti-mutants at the time) shot missles that were mostly ceramic based materials and he STILL stopped them, dismantled them and destroyed the helicopters that fired them.
To say he's a weak villain because his ability is only as limited as your own understanding of magnetism and the universe... well... dude just read about it and you'll see.
Also note that he does wear the equivalent of a tinfoil hat to keep mind-readers out of his head... kinda funny when you think about it.
I remember one comic where the Genoshans (anti-mutants at the time) shot missles that were mostly ceramic based materials and he STILL stopped them, dismantled them and destroyed the helicopters that fired them.
To say he's a weak villain because his ability is only as limited as your own understanding of magnetism and the universe... well... dude just read about it and you'll see.
Also note that he does wear the equivalent of a tinfoil hat to keep mind-readers out of his head... kinda funny when you think about it.
but at the same time they dont bug you so much because in a well written character/ story your suspension of disbelief is can be put aside...like "The Force" in star wars (medichlorians never existed!!!!)Slycne said:
...until you realize the Magneto can use the iron in your blood cells as bullets, as seen in X-Men 2 (I think...)
Just assume thermodynamics and conservation of energy and matter don't apply. Next assume she has the ability to create or destroy water vapour and nitrogen without any energy transfer. Also assume she has the ability to create closed systems and control their volume. Based on the ideal gas equation she should have full control of the pressure and temperature in those systems. She would also have control of the humidity due to her ability to create and destroy water vapour. Using temperature, pressure and humidity she can control the weather.Jegsimmons said:
OT I think because Magneto isn't trying to just kill people we don't see the full extent of his powers. If he wanted to he could alter the magnetic field above a city flooding it with high energy particles that are usually deflected by the earths magnetic field.
Personally I don't see what you're talking about.
In a world of concrete and steel, where just about everything has something metallic in it, he seems like a particularly dangerous foe. You saw what he did with that Nazi coin in X-Men: First Class?? If you were talking on your phone, he could so much as twitch a muscle and send the sim card flying through your head. Not to mention his powers are magnetism, not purely controlling metal. Above that though, I think it's his ideals that make him the villain. That, and the fact that he's such a charismatic bastard that he can command the hearts and minds of millions.
In the end, what you're saying is kinda like saying "Why is that guy president? I could kick the shit out of him.". It's not what they do, it's what they say.
In a world of concrete and steel, where just about everything has something metallic in it, he seems like a particularly dangerous foe. You saw what he did with that Nazi coin in X-Men: First Class?? If you were talking on your phone, he could so much as twitch a muscle and send the sim card flying through your head. Not to mention his powers are magnetism, not purely controlling metal. Above that though, I think it's his ideals that make him the villain. That, and the fact that he's such a charismatic bastard that he can command the hearts and minds of millions.
In the end, what you're saying is kinda like saying "Why is that guy president? I could kick the shit out of him.". It's not what they do, it's what they say.
I don't know really. I've certainly given more pondering to how Superman can lift a relatively fragile plane without damaging it or doesn't pulverize someone he catches falling at high speed than I have Storm summoning some nearby thundercloud. Though I don't doubt that canonically reasons have been constructed for how she controls weather.Jegsimmons said:
Personally, I tend to only gripe when a work starts crossing the boundaries of their own internal logic.
Thats always been my problem with his powers.Twad said:
Magneto has always been the best xmen adversery. Only because of his storyline not his powers, his ideals fit with the theme of the comics better than any other adversery I had read while I was reading Xmen.
1 niche ability? Are you serious? Take a look around your room right now. Your computer, your TV, your lamp, even the metal in your clothing are all enough for him to completely destroy you with. In some versions he is even able to manipulate the iron in your bloodstream.
You want to shoot him? Good luck with those metal bullets of yours. Come at him with a knife? Not if it's made of metal you won't. His power makes him invincible to pretty much all conventional types of attack.
You want to shoot him? Good luck with those metal bullets of yours. Come at him with a knife? Not if it's made of metal you won't. His power makes him invincible to pretty much all conventional types of attack.
The problem I have is not with Magneto, but the name of the villain first class (Can't remember his name for some reason) who can absorb energy. Apparently it's kinetic energy he absorbs. I'm no physicist, but doesn't any object in motion have kinetic energy? Wouldn't that mean he's literally invincible to just about anything?
I'm no expert in any of this, so don't hold me to it.
I'm no expert in any of this, so don't hold me to it.