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Hristo Tzonkov

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I suggest finding some middle ground.Like you doing a bit of pot and she cutting down.Pot isn't really a drug because it doesn't fuck up your life unless you have absolutely no will.It can turn into a lifestyle however.Meh it's still better than if she was an alcoholic right?
 

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Saelune said:
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I just worry they want pot to become TOO legal.
LOL What?
Obviosuly we are not there yet. But lets say pot does get legalized. Lets say any guy can go into a store and buy some weed. Ok. Fine. Its also used in medication. But what if we get to a point where pot is so freely used that its almost expected to be used sometimes. Even if pot is legal, I dont think kids should be smoking it. It should atleast be treated as smoking cigarettes is now.
Bullshit. Cigarette smoking has been here for years and it was never "expected" of you to smoke. Hell, as it stands, cigarette smoking is declining world wide. The only reason teenagers smoke and do drugs more often than your average adult is because teenagehood is a time of experimentation. You can do everything an adult can with barely any consequences. Of course they're going to experiment. It's the only part of their life when they can AFFORD to experiment. Do you think you can still get pissed drunk and do crazy shit after you're not a teenager? Fuck no. The only reason most people DO drugs is because of the stigma associated with it. The fact that it's illegal is what attracts so many people to them. People are naturally curious, smart ones more so. It's no wonder so many people smoke weed.

Look at the Netherlands. Weed is tolerated there to the point of being able to smoke it freely in caffee's and shit. Most people expected weed smoker rates to rise but ironically, they're falling. What does this mean? It means that the only way to combat drugs is to legalize them. Fighting them the "conservative way" has only wasted millions of dollars on fighting a war where no victory was possible. Those millions of dollars could have been put to better use.

Let's also not forget the amount of jobs and money legalizing drugs could bring in. Specialized drug stores that sell drugs all over the world? Hells yeah. It would create millions of jobs and, if taxed correctly, could fucking bring in billions of dollars. It would end this goddamn recession that's been hanging around for the past 4 years.

So basically, legalizing drugs would stop the war on drugs, get rid of that pesky violent, crime ridden drug industry that's currently running the business, make drugs more innacessible to teens/kids, create more jobs and bring in billions. What more incentive do you people fucking want to legalize drugs?
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
Saelune said:
Tipsy Giant said:
Saelune said:
I just worry they want pot to become TOO legal.
LOL What?
Obviosuly we are not there yet. But lets say pot does get legalized. Lets say any guy can go into a store and buy some weed. Ok. Fine. Its also used in medication. But what if we get to a point where pot is so freely used that its almost expected to be used sometimes. Even if pot is legal, I dont think kids should be smoking it. It should atleast be treated as smoking cigarettes is now.
Bullshit. Cigarette smoking has been here for years and it was never "expected" of you to smoke. Hell, as it stands, cigarette smoking is declining world wide. The only reason teenagers smoke and do drugs more often than your average adult is because teenagehood is a time of experimentation. You can do everything an adult can with barely any consequences. Of course they're going to experiment. It's the only part of their life when they can AFFORD to experiment. Do you think you can still get pissed drunk and do crazy shit after you're not a teenager? Fuck no. The only reason most people DO drugs is because of the stigma associated with it. The fact that it's illegal is what attracts so many people to them. People are naturally curious, smart ones more so. It's no wonder so many people smoke weed.

Look at the Netherlands. Weed is tolerated there to the point of being able to smoke it freely in caffee's and shit. Most people expected weed smoker rates to rise but ironically, they're falling. What does this mean? It means that the only way to combat drugs is to legalize them. Fighting them the "conservative way" has only wasted millions of dollars on fighting a war where no victory was possible. Those millions of dollars could have been put to better use.

Let's also not forget the amount of jobs and money legalizing drugs could bring in. Specialized drug stores that sell drugs all over the world? Hells yeah. It would create millions of jobs and, if taxed correctly, could fucking bring in billions of dollars. It would end this goddamn recession that's been hanging around for the past 4 years.

So basically, legalizing drugs would stop the war on drugs, get rid of that pesky violent, crime ridden drug industry that's currently running the business, make drugs more innacessible to teens/kids, create more jobs and bring in billions. What more incentive do you people fucking want to legalize drugs?
From the first sentence you mistook what I said. I never said people are expected to smoke. However people ARE expected to drink. Its ture really. You are epxected to drink to celebrate love and romance and on dates, you drink for holidays, and to socialize. But I dont like it. And know what? I dont want to get high. (I also dont want to get lung cancer, but this is not a cigarette argument, similar as it may be)
I do realize legalizing it can reduce it. I likely would not bother voting for it to be or not be legal and just let it play out, but doesnt mean I want to partake.
But like I said, from your first words you misunderstood me. I am not some crusader for OR against pot. But I dont like it. If I controlled the world would I want pot in it? No, but I also wouldnt want most modern pop musicians in it. But I dont control the world so it is irrelevant in the end.

Side note, I also hate pot heads. Good or bad or neither, pot heads treat pot in a way that just bugs me. But the same can be said of sport fans and beer fans.
 

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Saelune said:
From the first sentence you mistook what I said. I never said people are expected to smoke. However people ARE expected to drink. Its ture really. You are epxected to drink to celebrate love and romance and on dates, you drink for holidays, and to socialize. But I dont like it. And know what? I dont want to get high. (I also dont want to get lung cancer, but this is not a cigarette argument, similar as it may be)
I do realize legalizing it can reduce it. I likely would not bother voting for it to be or not be legal and just let it play out, but doesnt mean I want to partake.
But like I said, from your first words you misunderstood me. I am not some crusader for OR against pot. But I dont like it. If I controlled the world would I want pot in it? No, but I also wouldnt want most modern pop musicians in it. But I dont control the world so it is irrelevant in the end.

Side note, I also hate pot heads. Good or bad or neither, pot heads treat pot in a way that just bugs me. But the same can be said of sport fans and beer fans.
Moderate alcohol intake has a positive effect on the body you know. Also, I disagree that you're "expected" to drink. As an adult your drug intake is entirely dependent on you. If you give in to peer pressure then yeah, you're going to feel that way. However, part of being an adult is dealing with peer pressure.

I understand that you don't like drugs but disliking every pothead and assuming they all think the same about drugs is a pretty rigid position.

Anyways, I'm sorry if I misunderstood your opinion. My argument still stands though.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
Saelune said:
From the first sentence you mistook what I said. I never said people are expected to smoke. However people ARE expected to drink. Its ture really. You are epxected to drink to celebrate love and romance and on dates, you drink for holidays, and to socialize. But I dont like it. And know what? I dont want to get high. (I also dont want to get lung cancer, but this is not a cigarette argument, similar as it may be)
I do realize legalizing it can reduce it. I likely would not bother voting for it to be or not be legal and just let it play out, but doesnt mean I want to partake.
But like I said, from your first words you misunderstood me. I am not some crusader for OR against pot. But I dont like it. If I controlled the world would I want pot in it? No, but I also wouldnt want most modern pop musicians in it. But I dont control the world so it is irrelevant in the end.

Side note, I also hate pot heads. Good or bad or neither, pot heads treat pot in a way that just bugs me. But the same can be said of sport fans and beer fans.
Moderate alcohol intake has a positive effect on the body you know. Also, I disagree that you're "expected" to drink. As an adult your drug intake is entirely dependent on you. If you give in to peer pressure then yeah, you're going to feel that way. However, part of being an adult is dealing with peer pressure.

I understand that you don't like drugs but disliking every pothead and assuming they all think the same about drugs is a pretty rigid position.

Anyways, I'm sorry if I misunderstood your opinion. My argument still stands though.
I love music, especcially alternative rock. I dont hate all pot heads.
And while you stand by yours, I still stand by that you are socially expected to drink, even if it is only the occasional glass. As someone who DOES NOT DRINK, it is more apparent to me perhaps. It will come up often in my life where I will be given drinks or offered them, and I will decline. Now it should just end there, and I have no problems with that. But then people will wonder why. Often they will try to convinve me to drink, or think me odd for not doing it. I even have met people with views that people who do not drnk at all are just wrong and weird. While Im hoping this is a rare POV, its still a negative one that is against me. Most of my issues with all these substances all comes from me not doing them, and wanting people to respect that. I am willing to live and let live if you comply too.
 

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Saelune said:
I love music, especcially alternative rock. I dont hate all pot heads.
And while you stand by yours, I still stand by that you are socially expected to drink, even if it is only the occasional glass. As someone who DOES NOT DRINK, it is more apparent to me perhaps. It will come up often in my life where I will be given drinks or offered them, and I will decline. Now it should just end there, and I have no problems with that. But then people will wonder why. Often they will try to convinve me to drink, or think me odd for not doing it. I even have met people with views that people who do not drnk at all are just wrong and weird. While Im hoping this is a rare POV, its still a negative one that is against me. Most of my issues with all these substances all comes from me not doing them, and wanting people to respect that. I am willing to live and let live if you comply too.
I will comply. It's your choice to not do any drugs and I respect that. I believe a person should be able to do what they want with their bodies and that includes not doing any drugs. I've never experienced this sort of peer pressure before but that's probably because when I do go out I go with my friends and they've never pressure me into anything. Everything we did together, including weed, was done so because all wanted to and we never bullied/pressured someone in our group to follow through. In fact, we all agreed to smoke weed because we were curious and we all stopped together.
 

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Unless you want to start taking pot too then GTFO.

Not like she'll be good for a long time partner anyway, her brain is going to rot awaaay.
 

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Detrimental eh? So you're military or a government worker or something like that? No? Well then, maybe detrimental might be too harsh of a word.

Some people never grow out of the pothead lifestyle. I have many friend and relatives who never quite 'grow up' and I use the term 'grow up' only because I can't think of anything better to use.
 

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Depends on exactly how close you are to you're GF, My GF and me do pot once or twice a month, but here it's legal. Drugs have always been discriminated, ofcourse you have dumbshits that do meth or heroine and those ruin everything you have indeed. But just some pot won't harm you (apart from the legal thingy)
 

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I'd smoke it with her, but that's just me.

If you feel so strongly against it just tell her. At the end of the day if drugs mean more to her than her boyfriend, it ain't going to get far. The least she could do is smoke it less I'm not on about completely stopping it altogether.
 

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Tell her you don't like that she smokes so much, and discuss! If you're enjoying the relationship, don't 'throw the baby out with the bathwater', a little discomfort from having to raise a potentially touchy subject will be rewarded with a feeling of resolution or at least of progress, you'll know where you stand and what might need to happen next, you make it sound like you can manage to talk to her without sounding like an authoritarian douche. :)
 

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VGC USpartan VS said:
he just isn't... I don't know what to say. He just dosen't WORK.
I know what you mean.

Some scientists say it really screws you up developmentally and whenever I get even close to mentioning that to some people I know (who grew up with it) they get really defensive and angry. "But it hasn't done anything to me!" but how are they supposed to know that they haven't turned out completely different to the way they should have done? It's infuriating.
 

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its not a problem, just make your feelings about not wanting to do it clear and she should be fine, dont be an ass about it though. saying things like: "it can ruin your life" or "i dotn want to be associated with that lifestyle" are very stupid things to say
 

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As somebody who has been involved with reformed potheads, I'll say this: That shit will fuck your head for life and make you very random and unpredictable. Get out before you get too heavily invested. Though I totally understand your thinking here, whether you see it as fair or not (because you knew it before you got together) isn't the point. If you don't feel right in the relationship, that's what matters.
 

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So what's the problem? I am a pothead as well. Why do people hate them so much?

I wish I had a girlfriend that was a pothead...
 

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So what's the problem? I am a pothead as well. Why do people hate them so much?

I wish I had a girlfriend that was a pothead...
Troll?
 

Latinidiot

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Just ask her not to do it when you're around and you'll be fine. If she won't even do that, well, than you've reached an impasse.
 

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I'd stay away from it as much as possible. Hate to say it but you should probably dump her. It's not the sort of culture you want to get invovled with, I've seen a few people go downhill fast once they started drugs.
 

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Spot1990 said:
I hate that "pot is a lifestyle" (I will be calling it weed from now on, pot is very American and feels weird for me to say) thing. Personally I don't like pot. Don't like the taste and don't like how lethargic it makes me. I prefer alcohol myself. I do however think weed is a perfectly fine drug if you want to do it yourself. But if you treat it as a lifestyle you either have a serious issue and need rehabilitation (imagine if I was to claim vodka as my lifestyle) or you're a douche who doesn't have a lot else going on for yourself. (bearing in mind I'm in favour of it's legalisation).

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Nothing good comes out of drugs
I disagree, good times, good stories (if you can remember them but if someone else has to tell you about them chances are it's an even better story). Anyway, no good come from skittles or coca cola other than the taste. Now you can argue that bad things come from it, but that's not the original point made. But personally I'm a bit of hedonist so I regard good times as a pretty important upside (I'm speaking mostly about alcohol here though, very rarely smoke weed myself and have had limited experience with other drugs.)
That didn't make them good people. It doesn't sound as though she's some kind of genius, and as a rule it just makes people unpleasant to be around. Even if she is a genius, then unless he's willing to stick around for the money with someone who he doesn't like.