My next console

[Treeinthewoods]

So, first off let me state that my deciosions are not set in stone. The largest determining factor (whichever console most of my friends get) is still up in the air.

Still, I've been debating internally between the WiiU, PS4 or the Xbox One for a while here and I think I have a good idea which one i should buy.

First, I am the only so-called "hardcore" gamer in my household. My wife enjoys casual games and puzzle games and my daughter is three years old. I want to game with her but at this time "kid and casual friendly" is pretty much mandatory.

I am getting a nice HD TV finally so I am actually wanting something to watch Blu-Ray on, I got my wife on board for a new console since it's a Blu-Ray player I can do more with.

I love streaming Netflix through my console, super convenient and easy. This can be done on any console I am aware of at this time so it's an important feature but not a deal maker.

My home Internet is very speedy and reliable, I haven't been offline for the last ten years.

Backwards compatibility matters to me about as much as console color. I have admitted to myself that all my previous consoles (kept around if I ever wanted to replay a classic) are basically gathering dust in a box in my attic. I have limited play time these days so when I do play I am always happy playing something new and awesome as opposed to replaying something I already know in and out (even if it is awesome).

And so, I think I am getting an Xbox One. I like the PS4 but it lacks one thing, Kinect. Kinect is fun as hell, my wife loves the dancing games and all that crazy casual stuff. It's also worked great for my daughter to enjoy simple to play kids games and it keeps her from simply sitting on the couch all the time. It's got other features I think are cool like the TV and I am quite confident that any major games I get pumped about will be available.

Kid friendliness really is the deciding factor but the WiiU really doesn't do it for me as a gamer. I can see getting one down the line in addition to the Xbox One but nothing about it makes me crazy to play like the PS4 other two consoles.

And so, I guess the point of this thread is to see how people here feel about my decision based on my current gaming "profile." Perhaps I am unaware of the awesome level of kid and casual gaming on the PS4? Having to use a controller for everything really seems lame for dancing or work out games. Do you think either one of the other conses would fit my needs better?

I shouldn't have to include this but; no bashing. I am not implying any console is superior, just a better fit for me. Of course if cash wasn't a factor I'd get them all. Odds are I probably will end up with all of them but it's just determining which one is going to be first and hold the spot of honor in the living room instead of getting put in the office or my bedroom.

 

[The_Lost_King]

You are missing out on the only thing that makes a next gen console worth buying(for me), Infamous Second Sons. That is all I have to say. If you want an Xb1 then all power to you. I will be getting a ps4 if I get a next gen console(pc gaming ftw) but I am not you and you are not me.

 

[The_Scrivener]

You know they aren't out yet right? That currently you have 5% of the information you're going to have by the time they're actually released?

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

This might come off as bashing, but I'm being serious here.

How important is the concept of ownership to you? Do you think that paying for something should allow you to possess it, or would you rather everything in your life were rented temporarily?

Do you ever think about your fellow man? Do you empathize in any way with people who don't have a steady or speedy internet connection?

Do you think it makes sense for people to resell things they no longer need to other people? Or do you think everything should be resold back through the original seller so they can get a cut?

Buying an Xbox One is tacitly agreeing to erode consumer rights that have existed for decades. If you value a few Kinect games over said rights, by all means, step over the line Microsoft has drawn in the sand.

 

[Treeinthewoods]

You know they aren't out yet right? That currently you have 5% of the information you're going to have by the time they're actually released?

I will definitely research more as it becomes available but the purchase will most assuredly be a pre-order so with what I know now I am comfortable deciding.

This might come off as bashing, but I'm being serious here.

How important is the concept of ownership to you? Do you think that paying for something should allow you to possess it, or would you rather everything in your life were rented temporarily?

Do you ever think about your fellow man? Do you empathize in any way with people who don't have a steady or speedy internet connection?

Do you think it makes sense for people to resell things they no longer need to other people? Or do you think everything should be resold back through the original seller so they can get a cut?

Buying an Xbox One is tacitly agreeing to erode consumer rights that have existed for decades. If you value a few Kinect games over said rights, by all means, step over the line Microsoft has drawn in the sand.

I will go in order here:

Not as important to me as it is to others and I don't really see any way that the Xbox One results in me not being as to play whatever I feel like.

I don't care if someone else's Internet is spotty or terrible, clearly the console is not marketed to them. If my Internet was like that I wouldn't buy it either.

I have literally never traded or resold any of my games, I keep them as part of my collection whether I play them regularly or never at all. I don't really care what other people do with their games, if I was big on trade ins I wouldn't get an Xbox One.

Finally, I just don't agree that any of the new consoles are somehow eroding customer rights. I know very clearly how it works and what I like to do with my games and systems. And Kinect is just delicious icing on the cake. Basically, if I was the type to trade games or not have speedy Internet I wouldn't buy it because everything I have seen clearly explains how the Xbox One won't work well for that.

What I will do is play Blu Ray movies, play Halo 5 or whatever other sweet games my bro's and I boot up for game night, create valuable family time when we play more casual and party games together and allow Dance Central to keep house parties rocking even if the weather is lame without me having to buy an ass load of plastic instruments.

If I decide Sony or Nintendo can do those things better my purchase might change but it's really not looking good. The perfect end of "casual" and "core" is difficult to arrive at.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

It sounds like the only real reason you've chosen the Xbox One over the PS4 is the fact that the Xbox One has Kinect, and for some reason that's important to you.

Let me ask you a question then, did the kinect actually work on the Xbox 360?

The answer is pretty much no.

Do you trust that the new version of kinect will actually work as advertised?

Well, that's up to you. I personally wouldn't.

 

[Njaard]

Honestly, odds are almost all third party games of this console generation will be released across all platforms, so I hardly think the WiiU having too few hardcore games will be a problem.

If you factor in that games such as the new Zelda game, Bayonetta 2, the new Super Smash Bros game among many others will be released soon I'd almost say the WiiU has the lineup of games (or will have soon anyway) that will appeal the most to the hardcore gamer.

But then again, I'm mostly a PC gamer... I only play console games to get my Nintendo fix, and that, for obvious reasons, rules out any other console, so you can't exactly call me unbiased.

 

[suntt123]

And so, I think I am getting an Xbox One. I like the PS4 but it lacks one thing, Kinect. Kinect is fun as hell, my wife loves the dancing games and all that crazy casual stuff. It's also worked great for my daughter to enjoy simple to play kids games and it keeps her from simply sitting on the couch all the time. It's got other features I think are cool like the TV and I am quite confident that any major games I get pumped about will be available.

Bare in mind though, there haven't been any kiddie games announced for the kinect 2 (not yet at least) and it's not BC so you can't play Dance Central, Kinectimals, Sesame Street or the like.

 

[Treeinthewoods]

It sounds like the only real reason you've chosen the Xbox One over the PS4 is the fact that the Xbox One has Kinect, and for some reason that's important to you.

Let me ask you a question then, did the kinect actually work on the Xbox 360?

The answer is pretty much no.

Do you trust that the new version of kinect will actually work as advertised?

Well, that's up to you. I personally wouldn't.

False, played Dance Central and other Kinect based games, it worked great. Did everything it was sold as doing, only reason I didn't get one right away for my 360 was the fact that my daughter was too young to play it and my wife didn't seem that interested. I figured I could just play it at my friendly neighbors house until it was either on sale dirt cheap or came packaged with a new console. Guess which one happened first?

 

[The_Scrivener]

The Xbone could manufacture chocolate syrup directly into your mouth. It could polish and wax your car without zero effort. None of what it does matters if you can't own what you're buying. It's worthless. It is the essence of consumerism/corporatism gone completely wrong. The fact that the games look like the same boring junk is just icing.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

It sounds like the only real reason you've chosen the Xbox One over the PS4 is the fact that the Xbox One has Kinect, and for some reason that's important to you.

Let me ask you a question then, did the kinect actually work on the Xbox 360?

The answer is pretty much no.

Do you trust that the new version of kinect will actually work as advertised?

Well, that's up to you. I personally wouldn't.

False, played Dance Central and other Kinect based games, it worked great. Did everything it was sold as doing, only reason I didn't get one right away for my 360 was the fact that my daughter was too young to play it and my wife didn't seem that interested. I figured I could just play it at my friendly neighbors house until it was either on sale dirt cheap or came packaged with a new console. Guess which one happened first?

Yup, totally working as advertised. Kinect totally senses small movements. What? no, of course kinect understands complicated command inputs.

 

[Haefulz]

It sounds like the only real reason you've chosen the Xbox One over the PS4 is the fact that the Xbox One has Kinect, and for some reason that's important to you.

Let me ask you a question then, did the kinect actually work on the Xbox 360?

The answer is pretty much no.

Do you trust that the new version of kinect will actually work as advertised?

Well, that's up to you. I personally wouldn't.

He said the Kinect is important to him because his wife loves it. And the Kinect actually did work for quite a few games.

 

[Treeinthewoods]

The Xbone could manufacture chocolate syrup directly into your mouth. It could polish and wax your car without zero effort. None of what it does matters if you can't own what you're buying. It's worthless. It is the essence of consumerism/corporatism gone completely wrong. The fact that the games look like the same boring junk is just icing.

I really don't get what you are driving at. How do I not own a game for the Xbox One? Keep in mind, never trade in or lend out games because I keep my collection mint up until I pack it in a box and forget about it as a new console takes over. I want to play a game, the console plays the game... I don't get the concern.

It sounds like the only real reason you've chosen the Xbox One over the PS4 is the fact that the Xbox One has Kinect, and for some reason that's important to you.

Let me ask you a question then, did the kinect actually work on the Xbox 360?

The answer is pretty much no.

Do you trust that the new version of kinect will actually work as advertised?

Well, that's up to you. I personally wouldn't.

False, played Dance Central and other Kinect based games, it worked great. Did everything it was sold as doing, only reason I didn't get one right away for my 360 was the fact that my daughter was too young to play it and my wife didn't seem that interested. I figured I could just play it at my friendly neighbors house until it was either on sale dirt cheap or came packaged with a new console. Guess which one happened first?

Yup, totally working as advertised. Kinect totally senses small movements. What? no, of course kinect understands complicated command inputs.

Did I ever mention wanting to do anything really complicated? Kinect is a god send for casual games which is what my wife loves, in addition to The Biggest Loser work out "game" and the fun as hell dancing options and the kid games worked perfectly well. Also, nice video but my personal experiences are all positive. Sucks that whoever that was had a problem though, may e they should try Dance Central.

Either way, I was kind of hoping someone could come up with reasons a PS4 or WiiU might be a better option but you can't seem to come up with one. If all you are here to do is bash a console and talk down about Kinect you can try maybe one or two of the other "I Hate Xbox One" threads.

 

[Caiphus]

Sounds like the OP has made a decent decision.
I certainly won't get an Xbone based on recent news, but I don't care at all about the Kinect. If the recent news about lack of backwards compatibility/online check every 24 hours/kinect always being on/no used games doesn't turn you off, and it sounds like the OP doesn't care (and good on him for knowing what he wants), then yeah. Get an Xbone.

I'm not sure what previous console OP has. I'd be much more worried about backwards compatibility if I had a 360 because of the 360's apparent tendency to brick itself. But then again, that console will brick itself anyway. Whether the OP buys an Xbone or not doesn't change that.

I'd personally, if I was OP, go with a PC + Wii U combo because the internet in New Zealand is a bit shit, and the Wii U looks to have local multiplayer as one of it's main selling points. But that's me.

 

[fibchopkin]

Since what you're after is a gaming experience that will satisfy both your wife's casual gaming and your daughter's movement based games while still allowing you the freedom to play the big AAA releases- I'd definitely agree with your choice. Since you seem very interested in the T.V. and movie aspect of things, Xbone definitely seems to have a leg up over PS4. I am more into hard core games than your wife, but I'm not gonna lie, I LOVE me some Zumba Rush, and my Kinect has worked perfectly well for both that and Dance Central (great way to get a workout when the surf's lousy or I don't feel like going for a paddle). My five year old also has fun with the few games like Kinect Adventure and GO, Diego, Go! we have on our 360. The only thing I would caution is this- you may want to wait a while before submitting your pre-order. I know that you said backwards compatibility isn't an issue for you, but it'll probably take a while for the Xbobe to work out it's kinks, and it'll definitely take a while for publishers to put out quality kids games that take advantage of the new features. On the other hand, most of the big new titles coming out this year and in 2014 (Dragon Age, Witcher 3 etc) are coming out on the 360 as well as the Xbone, so you'll get a bit more use out of it if you hold back on preordering.

Personally, I've not thrown my hat into any ring as yet. I live on the windward side of an island and my connectivity is spotty during storm season, so I hate the idea that I might not be able to play some of my favorite titles if the internet's down. Plus, backwards compatibility and importing features are important to me and though I rarely trade my games, I'm concerned with the DRM and ownership issues that are implied. My overall advice to most people is to hold off on the preorder until Sony and Microsoft have hashed out all of those mechanics, because even if those features don't seem important to you, by the time they've worked out the kinks, they'll have improved the functioning of the systems overall.

 

[suntt123]

Did I ever mention wanting to do anything really complicated? Kinect is a god send for casual games which is what my wife loves, in addition to The Biggest Loser work out "game" and the fun as hell dancing options and the kid games worked perfectly well. Also, nice video but my personal experiences are all positive. Sucks that whoever that was had a problem though, may e they should try Dance Central.

Either way, I was kind of hoping someone could come up with reasons a PS4 or WiiU might be a better option but you can't seem to come up with one. If all you are here to do is bash a console and talk down about Kinect you can try maybe one or two of the other "I Hate Xbox One" threads.

If you're getting the XB1 for Kinect games you may want to hold out for now. No kid friendly/casual kinect games yet and it can't play XB360 ones on it.

I'd recommend the Wii U. It doesn't have a lot of games either atm but it can at least play Wii's games like Wii Play/Sports, etc. Plus, you can always count on nintendo to deliver kid friendly games that are still challenging and entertaining enough for adults, hardcore or casual.

Plus, Nintendo land is a hoot. But it's pretty much strictly multiplayer. Single player just isn't as fun. It also lacks any real online play so you gotta play local. It's still fun though, me and my brothers play it every now and again. It's basically a mini game collection like Wii Sports Resort but with a theme park theme where all the attractions are based around Nintendo IPs. Some of the games might be a little complicated for a 3 year old though.

 

[Splitzi]

Admittedly, the PS4 sounds like a better game console, but like you OP I will be going with the XB1. Like you I never trade in or sell my games, my sister loves the Kinect dancing games, and the Blu-ray is a great step up. The XB1 seems to be a more family oriented machine, marketed to those in their mid thirties or so with a steady job, solid internet, and a growing family. I'm actually surprised to see a XB1 post that isn't insanely negative. Just because the XB1 might be the right fit for your family doesn't mean you are trampling on the rights of all consumers like some suggested

However I would look into a WiiU down the line for your daughter to experience some great Nintendo kid friendly games, but not until a price drop and many more titles to be released. It's always good to start them off young with some Mario and Zelda. Also, if shes three your WiiU purchase probably won't be for another couple of years, probably mid gen or so, more games will be out and the console hate will have simmered down a tad.

If you decided to get a PS4 I think it would be more of a selfish (not meant negatively) decision, focusing more on yourself as a gamer versus your wives dancing and party games. However, they probably will have more exclusives which might appeal to you.(Final Fantasy, Persona, Killzone, etc...)

In summation, it seems that the XB1 will be a better choice for your family as a whole, delivering enough to satisfy you, your wife, and your daughter.

 

[bug_of_war]

This should be a good determining factor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA&feature=player_embedded

PS4 seems to be the way to go if you wanna be a console gamer.

I can see how some people could easily use the Xbox One, but for those of us outside America, it's FAAR too expensive for content that we wont be able to use from day one.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Finally, I just don't agree that any of the new consoles are somehow eroding customer rights.

How do you not see it? Sony came out and said they're not restricting what you do with your games. You can lend them to friends without restriction. You can buy and sell your games as you see fit. You won't have to connect to their servers every day for eternity. If XB1 isn't "eroding these customer rights", these features we've enjoyed for decades, I guess Sony is creating/granting them?

If you're willing to condone Microsoft's ideology in exchange for some Kinect games for your daughter, that's fine. MS hasn't pushed you far enough yet, so you persist as a potential customer for them. I hope very much that you are in the minority, and I hope that this console fails whether you buy it or not. That's the only outcome capable of forcing MS to reverse course.

 

[Tony2077]

well m$ seems like it on a new path frankly I'm done supporting them. the 360 and windows 7 are the last things i get from them unless they fix the problems