My science teacher is kinda stupid.

[trollax]

She said evolutionist believe we came from mud and then she said rocks so she isn't consistent

 

[NiPah]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

Audio record class having debate on evolution, send to CNN, $$.

 

[trollax]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

She needs to stop smoking weed and watching the Flintstones, because a person in her position should know fucking better. The reason why I say this EVOLUTION and RELIGION are two different arguments. Hell both of them counter each other, it's basically like she tried to combine both concepts to sound "smart" yet her concept is more of a clusterfuck then believing we all came from Adam and Eve.

That made me chuckle ha ha ha.May I have a good source to study evolution I know a bit about it but I need a good paper on it

 

[DarkFenix]

Take great solace in knowing that I truly mean it when I say "lol, Americans"

I assume you're american because only in the "great" U.S. or A and of course few third world countries will someone like that be classified as a Science teacher and not batship retarded.

Yeah, one isolated incident definitely holds true for an entire massive country and millions of people. Nice job there, you really should us Americans, huh.

And someones personal beliefs instantly make them a bad teacher. I mean, I believe that Capitalism is the root of all the worlds ills, can I still teach Sociology from an unbaised perspective? Yes. Seriously, as long as her beliefs do not influence her lessons, it does not matter what she believes, AT ALL.

Not all RE teachers are non-religious (Even if they were non-religious that would be an issue, would it not?). Personal beliefs do not make a teacher good or bad, they do not make a person "Retarded" simply because they have a different version of events from you.

Sure, We might know they are wrong. But just because they believe something does not mean they are instantly an idiot.

I mean, Einstein was a christian. I know not all christians are creationists but... Well, pointing that out usually helps in these debates which, essentially, comes down to "She has faith and we think that faith is bullshit ergo she is a retard who should not be teaching"

This isn't a thread about whether she should hold true to her beliefs, this is a thread about if this woman should force her non-scientific views down the throats of the students in her SCIENCE CLASS

Also Einstein was Jewish

Just in response to the last bit about Einstein being jewish. He was born into a jewish family this is true but that does not make him jewish. Just as how a child belonging to christian parents is not christian. As a child one cannot truely comprehend all the different faiths instead most choose to adopt the faith of their parents. Einstein did not do this though. As proof I'd like to reference pg 36 of "the god delusion" by Richard Dawkins. Also if you read biographies of his life his religious views point him towards spinoza's god theory. just figured I'd clear that up. Cheers

 

[DalekJaas]

You need to report that to the school board, go through your parents. She is unfit to teach if the student's know she believes that nonsense. If she kept it to herself and taught facts then it wouldn't be a problem, but if she has voiced that opinion she needs to be fired.

The last thing the world needs are children being taught by religious nuts outside of the home, as they are can already be crippled enough by religious parents.

 

[Saltyk]

Seriously people. Grow up. Let a person believe what they want to believe. If she thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old, let her. If she thinks evolution is wrong, let her. As long as these beliefs do not hurt anyone or cause problems, they are harmless. Believing in God is not a mental illness. Please stop acting like it is.

That being said.
IF she is not teaching science theory in a science class, that is a problem. As a science teacher, she has a duty to teach scientific theory. She can state that people are allowed to believe as they wish on the subject, but they need to know the theory all the same. If she isn't teaching the theory properly, the OP needs to tell someone of authority. The principle or the school board would be a good start.

But as long as this belief is just a personnel feeling there's nothing wrong with it.

Things tend to cease to be "theories" when there is pretty much no conflicting evidence, and the overwhelming majority of the educated community agrees with them. Just because there are other contradicting ideas does not make it a theory. For example, I can say the sky is currently blue, just because another person says that no, the sky is purple, doesn't make what I said a theory.

You do realize that calling something scientific theory does mean you are denying it as being scientific fact, right? 90%+ of the things they teach you in science is scientific theory. Gravity? Scientific Theory. Relativity? Scientific Theory. Evolution? Scientific Theory.

From Wikipedia:
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.

 

[Furioso]

Take great solace in knowing that I truly mean it when I say "lol, Americans"

I assume you're american because only in the "great" U.S. or A and of course few third world countries will someone like that be classified as a Science teacher and not batship retarded.

Yeah, one isolated incident definitely holds true for an entire massive country and millions of people. Nice job there, you really should us Americans, huh.

And someones personal beliefs instantly make them a bad teacher. I mean, I believe that Capitalism is the root of all the worlds ills, can I still teach Sociology from an unbaised perspective? Yes. Seriously, as long as her beliefs do not influence her lessons, it does not matter what she believes, AT ALL.

Not all RE teachers are non-religious (Even if they were non-religious that would be an issue, would it not?). Personal beliefs do not make a teacher good or bad, they do not make a person "Retarded" simply because they have a different version of events from you.

Sure, We might know they are wrong. But just because they believe something does not mean they are instantly an idiot.

I mean, Einstein was a christian. I know not all christians are creationists but... Well, pointing that out usually helps in these debates which, essentially, comes down to "She has faith and we think that faith is bullshit ergo she is a retard who should not be teaching"

This isn't a thread about whether she should hold true to her beliefs, this is a thread about if this woman should force her non-scientific views down the throats of the students in her SCIENCE CLASS

Also Einstein was Jewish

So I was wrong about Einstein, apparently. I really need to check up on that history book, find out where that source comes from. Hmmm. Or I got my wires crossed, I mean, it is 3am. *sigh*

Regardless, at no point does the OP state that she pushed her views DURING THE LESSON. He simply stated that she HELD THOSE VIEWS and (Obviously) informed the pupils of her views (Not a very professional thing to do but whatever). As the OP has not stated if she has been TEACHING her views, one can assume that she is not (As it would risk her job to not follow the curriculum) and that as an only entity you are judging some poor woman based upon nothing other than her faith.

hell, she might be a wonderful science teacher. We simply do not have enough evidence to condemn her as a retard, bad teacher or anything similar. She simply holds these views. She does not necessarily teach them.

10th post down he says "She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson"

Edit: 18th post down he says "I live in backwards Kansas by the way she keeps saying the book(science is wrong) and the other book is right(bible)."

Well, It does influence her teaching. But you never know, it could all be a rather clever ploy. Perhaps it is a good thing she is making her students question evolution instead of having blind faith in science (Yes that was deliberate). For all we know this could be an elaborate double-ploy to make her students think more, she might not even be a christian at all!

Unlikely? Yes. But possible? Yes.

Even with all available evidence I would rather not insult the woman. I mean, the fact that she is teaching "Science" as a single principle shows that the OP is rather young (I mean, We split up teh sciences at around age 13 in the UK) and could just be bored and making things seem worse than they are to get attention on the internet.

I guess I am coming up with every possible explanation to avoid the conclusion that the American school system is a pile of shit that lets crazy people teach. I mean, if this is the case he should merely report the teacher for not teaching the class.

Things like this happen, I'm sure she sounded completely professional when being hired, and no one has bothered to report her/she hasn't been caught by any faculty, hell, this isn't even the worst case of insanity lately, we're now dealing with a celebrated coach (Jerry Sandusky) being accused (he is good as guilty really, not a single person is pulling for him because of the overwhelming preliminary evidence) of rape and molestation of up to 40 male children over the course of his career, with I think 10 stepping forward to testify, but that's not the worst part, the worst part is that multiple, MULTIPLE faculty CAUGHT HIM IN THE ACT and reported it to the school, and the school (Penn State University, a pretty well renowned college) did NOTHING to stop it, my point is that insane shit happens every now and then, and an unprofessional science teacher isn't really that "out of left field" when compared to the other insanities of the world

 

[I Have No Idea]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

The 6000 years part would suggest she's a Christian, the living-alongside-dinosaurs part would suggest she's an atheist, and the evolution-is-a-scam part would suggest she's a Christian again.


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[brainslurper]

Seriously people. Grow up. Let a person believe what they want to believe. If she thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old, let her. If she thinks evolution is wrong, let her. As long as these beliefs do not hurt anyone or cause problems, they are harmless. Believing in God is not a mental illness. Please stop acting like it is.

That being said.
IF she is not teaching science theory in a science class, that is a problem. As a science teacher, she has a duty to teach scientific theory. She can state that people are allowed to believe as they wish on the subject, but they need to know the theory all the same. If she isn't teaching the theory properly, the OP needs to tell someone of authority. The principle or the school board would be a good start.

But as long as this belief is just a personnel feeling there's nothing wrong with it.

Things tend to cease to be "theories" when there is pretty much no conflicting evidence, and the overwhelming majority of the educated community agrees with them. Just because there are other contradicting ideas does not make it a theory. For example, I can say the sky is currently blue, just because another person says that no, the sky is purple, doesn't make what I said a theory.

You do realize that calling something scientific theory does mean you are denying it as being scientific fact, right? 90%+ of the things they teach you in science is scientific theory. Gravity? Scientific Theory. Relativity? Scientific Theory. Evolution? Scientific Theory.

From Wikipedia:
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.

From the little dictionary on my dashboard:
Theory: a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
Evolution no longer fits this definition, as it has been thoroughly explained and proven countless times.
Gravity is somewhat a theory, as there is no thorough scientific explanation for WHY objects with more mass have a larger gravitational pull.

 

[Smeggs]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

Where the hell do you go to school?

Tell her superiors she is not doing her job correctly and is being offensive.

 

[Hal10k]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

The 6000 years part would suggest she's a Christian, the living-alongside-dinosaurs part would suggest she's an atheist, and the evolution-is-a-scam part would suggest she's a Christian again.


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I think she's using the creationist argument that dinosaur fossils are just the remains of the creatures wiped out in Noah's great flood or Eve's expulsion from Eden, or something like that. Hence, before that, humans coexisted with dinosaurs, all of whom were non-carnivorous for some reason.

I kinda like the theory. Anything that increases the odds of the Flinstones being re-released as a documentary is just fine by my reckoning.

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

leave her to her beliefs, unless she's actively teaching this to her students or is professing all her beliefs as the facts, she is in no way being a harm to anyone.

In complete agreement. Many people don't understand that personal beliefs are generally harmless. They can only be harmful if A. that person uses them to negative effects; or B. other people make a big deal about it.
As long as she keeps this to herself and outside the classroom (like teachers should), she's fine.

You. meet-

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

If Trollax isn't just trolling. big if

Then he has every right to be worried. To be a teacher of science you should not be voicing your opinions that have been dis-proven by science.

If you want to invalidate science that is currently held to be truth, such as evolution, then you should be working on that yourself. Not teaching your, as of now, unsubstantiated theories to students who need to know what is currently accepted as truth to pass tests.

The crazy thing is that evolution HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Its still only a theory because to prove it would mean to either find definitive proof that humans evolved from apes or to be able to observe an ape evolve into man. Neither of which we have found. Yes we have found things that substantiate the claim of evolution but there is still no 100% proof that what we found are actually ancestors of humans or a completely different species that has died out.

*edit* Oh yeah Creationism is more widely believed than evolution in the United States.

Crazy thing is that yes it has.

Evolution is simply the passing of traits from one generation to the next. It's why you have the same physical features as your parents.

But you are right about the early man fossils being from a different species. Their decendants DNA changed enough to qualify as a different species every few million years.

 

[shrimpcel]

Hang the heretic! Burn her at the steak! We can't have people with opinions and beliefs!(Okay, so she probably shouldn't be a science teacher, but still...)

"Burn her at the steak" has got to be the funniest error I've seen in a while.

 

[Smeggs]

Engage said teacher in scientific combat (i.e.- argue that's she's wrong as all hell... with SCIENCE!).

^Do as the duck says, assuming you have the necessary knowledge and wit to hold your own in a scientific arguement.

Anybody who denies years of research, study and hard evidence because "Teh bibal sais uderwise" is being an idiot. A blind idiot.

 

[Macgyvercas]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old

Ahh, the YECs. Try this (assuming she also believes that the universe is an age significanty less than 14 billion). Ask here how far the Andromeda Galaxy is from Earth (protip: it's 2.5 million light years. Light year is approximately 5 trillion miles). Then point out the fact that since the light we are observeing from the Andromeda galaxy started travelling 2.5 million years ago, how can the universe be under that age?

 

[Hal10k]

Seriously people. Grow up. Let a person believe what they want to believe. If she thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old, let her. If she thinks evolution is wrong, let her. As long as these beliefs do not hurt anyone or cause problems, they are harmless. Believing in God is not a mental illness. Please stop acting like it is.

That being said.
IF she is not teaching science theory in a science class, that is a problem. As a science teacher, she has a duty to teach scientific theory. She can state that people are allowed to believe as they wish on the subject, but they need to know the theory all the same. If she isn't teaching the theory properly, the OP needs to tell someone of authority. The principle or the school board would be a good start.

But as long as this belief is just a personnel feeling there's nothing wrong with it.

Things tend to cease to be "theories" when there is pretty much no conflicting evidence, and the overwhelming majority of the educated community agrees with them. Just because there are other contradicting ideas does not make it a theory. For example, I can say the sky is currently blue, just because another person says that no, the sky is purple, doesn't make what I said a theory.

You do realize that calling something scientific theory does mean you are denying it as being scientific fact, right? 90%+ of the things they teach you in science is scientific theory. Gravity? Scientific Theory. Relativity? Scientific Theory. Evolution? Scientific Theory.

From Wikipedia:
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.

From the little dictionary on my dashboard:
Theory: a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
Evolution no longer fits this definition, as it has been thoroughly explained and proven countless times.
Gravity is somewhat a theory, as there is no thorough scientific explanation for WHY objects with more mass have a larger gravitational pull.

The definition of "theory within the scientific community is different from the accepted layman's definition. A "theory", according to standard scientific practice, has to be supported by experimentation and generally recognized as a plausible explination for a phenomenon by the scientific community. Before that, it's just a hypothesis. Gravity is a theory; being pulled towards the center of the Earth by Cthulhu's intake of breath is a hypothesis.

I have absolutely no idea what the broad focus of this argument is, but I read your post and immediately though "Semantics-Man awaaaaaay!"

 

[utopaline]

THAT is not science. Tell her to go back to Sunday School to teach that. I have never read one single SCIENCE book that states that. She should not be teaching science. Not stupid, jsut mis informed as to what science is

 

[I Have No Idea]

I think she's using the creationist argument the dinosaur fossils are just the remains of the creatures wiped out in Noah's great flood or Eve's expulsion from Eden, or something like that. Hence, before that, humans coexisted with dinosaurs, who were non-carnivorous for some reason.

I kinda like the theory. Anything that increases the odds of the Flinstones being re-released as a documentary is just fine by my reckoning.

WHOA, I just realized that I was completely off when I said the living alongside dinosaurs thing suggested she was an atheist. WOW, how the heck did I miss that? I guess I was just initially confused by the calculus I'm supposed to be l studying.

 

[Kakashi on crack]

How can she be a science teacher if she holds those beliefs. They surely have to take some sort of test to be accepted as a teacher OF SCIENCE. Surely these things will have been picked up on and rectified.

Unless you live in one backwards ass town, I'm calling troll.

If a teacher has worked at a school for 4+ years they can more or less get away with anything short of physically assaulting/sexually harassing a student. (and they get even more leeway with each additional year they work at a school)

Probably a troll, but for the sake of the thread in the very slim chance that he isn't a compelte troll...

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

I was going to ask what course subject they teach. If they taught, for instance, chemistry or physics it wouldn't matter.

Going by this though, I'm assuming (because I'm not reading 3 pages) that your teacher is a biology teacher, somewhere between 8th grade and sophmore year level teaching, and if such is the case you need to report them to the principle under the basis of not learning the curriculum and bringing a religious bias into a learning environment. (assuming this by slim chance isn't a troll thread)