My Sister Is Reading Animal Farm; Why I Don't Hate Twilight

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000Ronald

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or alternatively, Do We Need To Be Told Banned Book Lists Encourage Reading?

Clearly we do. Or I did at least. Hold on, let me backtrack.

My sister reads Twilight. Fair enough, lots of high-school girls do (I hear) and I'm not the sort of person to tell someone what they can and can't do if they know where I sleep. Anyways, she comes home one day and has to explain to my mother that the book has been confiscated because it's "too sexy" and that she needs to go get it from the school. Which my mother... didn't. She hates going up to the school, y'see.

My sister responded by looking up a national banned book list [http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html] and deciding to read every single one of them. And she wasn't kidding about it. The next day I found her in the living room reading Animal Farm[footnote]I was so happy I cried[/footnote]. Being...well, a smartass, but let's say "inquisitive"...I asked her why she chose that book.

"It's a book about animals, and it's not that big." she said. "I thought I'd start out easy."

So I shook my head and explained to her that the use of animals was meant to be allegorical, and that the book was (probably) about how Russia turned into a Socialist hellhole. She shrugged it off, telling me again that it was "A book about animals."; a couple days later, she comes into my room almost crying because, "They killed Boxer." So we talked about the book for awhile, and she decided she wanted to read more books by George Orwell; I told her the only other one I knew of[footnote]Barring Homage to Catalona[/footnote] was 1984, which was probably worse. And she read it anyway. And it hasn't stopped there.

Here is a list of books my little sister has read thanks to Twilight (and religious fanatics)

-Animal Farm by George Orwell

-1984 By George Orwell

-The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain

-The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

-The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne

-Forever by Judy Blume

-To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee(currently)

And she's planning on reading The Color Purple next, because it's Mom's favorite movie.

TL,DR: I don't like Twilight, but if it gets people to read To Kill A Mockingbird, I'll hand the book out on the streets. Knowledge is fucking power.
 

Sean Hollyman

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Why did they take it off her, I mean it's her property, and it wasn't as if she was walking round announcing it's sexyness, right? That's like confiscating someone's Pokemon game because it's too violent!
 

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Very similar to Harry Potter ( well, HP is actually quite good, but whatever), anything that gets people into reading more is a-okay by me.

And if we need sexy vampires and wizards to get people to read animal farm and catch 22, well, that's a price i'm willing to pay.
 

TheIronRuler

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That is an incredible story you can use in a cocktail party to have other people laugh out loud. I liked it a lot, hurr hurr, quite brilliant if I may say so myself. Oh yes, I would like some more wine please.

*holds glass out to the waiter pouring red wine from a bottle*

It's hysterical. You can slowly make your sister into an independent person capable of criticizing what she is exposed to. Her sheer brass balls and defiance are also excellent qualities a person can have, and with an older sibling such as you I'm certain she will end up just fine.
 

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MisterShine said:
Very similar to Harry Potter ( well, HP is actually quite good, but whatever), anything that gets people into reading more is a-okay by me.
If I may ask, why?

I've heard this a lot, and until recently just sort of accepted it, that kids/people spend too much time in front of the computer or TV instead of a printed page, and this is somehow bad.

Now, there are certainly crap TV and internet stuff around, but printing the stuff out doesn't make it more informative.
 

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Animal Farm is on the banned book list? That's weird. Here in the UK it's one of the books on the syllabus for English literature.
 

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Lethos said:
Animal Farm is on the banned book list? That's weird. Here in the UK it's one of the books on the syllabus for English literature.
You could have opened OP's link, you know, it clearly says "Books Banned at One Time or Another in the United States". Also, you may notice that The Adventures of Tom Sawyer is there too - I'd have thought this casts some doubt on how current that list is.

thaluikhain said:
MisterShine said:
Very similar to Harry Potter ( well, HP is actually quite good, but whatever), anything that gets people into reading more is a-okay by me.
If I may ask, why?

I've heard this a lot, and until recently just sort of accepted it, that kids/people spend too much time in front of the computer or TV instead of a printed page, and this is somehow bad.

Now, there are certainly crap TV and internet stuff around, but printing the stuff out doesn't make it more informative.
I don't think what's implied is "Need more reading for the sake of reading" but rather "Some of these books are really good and people are missing out by not reading anything".
 

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Just wait until she gets to Naked Lunch. It's going to be hilarious, believe me.
 

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ravenshrike said:
Lethos said:
Animal Farm is on the banned book list? That's weird. Here in the UK it's one of the books on the syllabus for English literature.
The banned book list includes all books that have been banned anywhere at any time in the US for any reason.
Ah I see. And according to Wikipedia it was banned during WW2. Makes sense now.
DoPo said:
You could have opened OP's link, you know, it clearly says "Books Banned at One Time or Another in the United States". Also, you may notice that The Adventures of Tom Sawyer is there too - I'd have thought this casts some doubt on how current that list is.
Could of. Didn't. I'm an 18 year old at the end of summer vacation. It's against the law for me not to be lazy.
 

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Wait...
The US have banned George Orwell and Mark Twain? And The Scarlet Letter too?

"Yeah, they're great authors and all but we don't want kids to learn about difficult subjects. They could start asking questions after that. QUESTIONS!!!
No honey, no one called people niggers in the 1800's, that's just the author's imagination. What's adultery? Erm... that's when you're an adult, yes, exactly".
 

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Lethos said:
Animal Farm is on the banned book list? That's weird. Here in the UK it's one of the books on the syllabus for English literature.
Its isn't only the right who likes to ban books.

-Animal Farm by George Orwell

-1984 By George Orwell

-The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain

-The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain


Those four, its only the left have problem with them. Orwell attacks the totalitarian left, which no on the right has a problem with. Mark Twains works are often attacked on the grounds of racism, again a favourite bugbear of the left.
 

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Lethos said:
Animal Farm is on the banned book list? That's weird. Here in the UK it's one of the books on the syllabus for English literature.
I think here the teachers would be like `You're reading for fun?! Awesome!`. At least at my old school.

OT- My sister was a manager at a bookshop for a long time, and a few books annoyed her when they came out (like the Da Vinci Code, because people would insist it was fact not fiction and in the wrong section), but she was kinda okay about Twilight because it tended to get people reading more things and she could recommend them some better stuff when they finished it.
So yeah, I think encouraging people to read more is good even if it comes from a silly sparkly vampire source.
 

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Great story. Anyway that someone starts getting into reading is great.

Looking at the the banned book list, I'm saddened but unfortunately not surprised about books being on the list for the subject they discuss. But then I see the likes of Little Red Riding Hood and James and the giant peach on the list. WTF is wrong with them? Why ban Roald Dahl?
 

000Ronald

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The Artificially Prolonged said:
Great story. Anyway that someone starts getting into reading is great.

Looking at the the banned book list, I'm saddened but unfortunately not surprised about books being on the list for the subject they discuss. But then I see the likes of Little Red Riding Hood and James and the giant peach on the list. WTF is wrong with them? Why ban Roald Dahl?
I don't think there's an institution that has decided that these books CANNOT be read, it's more that somewhere in the country, whether it's in one backwoods school or a state mandate, has decided that these books are unsuitable to be read by children. I actually pointed that out to my sister, and she said she didn't care. She likes reading.

And that makes me happy.

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GunsmithKitten said:
Misnomer; Animal Farm was not a critique on socialism, it was a critique on BOLSHEVISM.

Orwell himself was an avid socialist, but he despised Soviet communism and especially Stalin's USSR.

Think about it; Snowball's ideas were extremely socialist, yet where they were employed, they actually worked. Things only went south when Napoleon wanted all the credit and power for himself.
Oh, yes, I'm aware of that, but I personally feel that the book was, on whole, about the ultimate failure of socialism, in the same way 1984 was about the failure of...well society, but more democracy. They're both cautionary tales, a story you tell so that people understand that the story is one that could actually happen. In knowing that, and more importantly how, something can fail, it is more easily prevented.

Also, aren't you the guy who said a person can't like Lima beans unless you're willing to die for them?
 

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*sniffle* I cried when they killed Boxer too, that poor equine allegory for Stakhanovite workers :(
 

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How old is your sister? At this rate she's going to be a fucking genius. I loved Animal Farm but thought it was a bit heavy-handed; especially towards the end. Same deal with 1984. To Kill A Mockingbird is one of the greatest books I've ever read.

I actually didn't mind Twilight and read the entire saga - Breaking Dawn was Meyer's great masturbating climax.

EDIT: confiscating books is disgusting and as I've read Twilight I can say that there's fuck all sex in it. Even in the final book, the first sex scene is skipped over and it stays that way.

The fucking author is Mormon for Christ's sake.

Sorry I'm getting pretty worked up.

Disclaimer: Twilight is not a book worth reading.
 
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I'm glad someone young is reading awesome literature; I just hope she's mature enough to understand the underlying themes. Animal Farm & 1984 are good, if a little heavy-handed; I personally prefer Brave New World to 1984. She should read Catch-22. That book is fucking brilliant.