My Sister Is Reading Animal Farm; Why I Don't Hate Twilight

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Imthatguy

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Fuck Yeah... Some people have to stumble into intellectualism I guess.

Also... 1984 and Animal Farm are very clear that its Authoritarianism that is wrong not socialism. (Ninja'd I know)
 

Shadow flame master

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Well at least someone in high school is reading for fun. I commend your sister for that.

Hopefully she won't dislike reading like I do.
 

Rainforce

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why is animal farm/1984 banned?
shouldn't it be the #1 freedom propaganda and example of where not to go polit...........oh, the US. It's also banned in china,I guess. :)

EDIT: also apparently a clockwork orange/etc.
so...all the good books in the world are BANNED?
oh wait, only "Banned at One Time or Another"
 

Woodsey

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'And she's planning on reading The Color Purple next, because it's Mom's favorite movie.'

I tried reading that for my English Lit class and had to give up after about 40 pages. I understand why it's written the way it is but it make me want to fucking scream.

1984 I read recently and loved it (as much as you can love a book that goes the way it does), although it's a little odd now to see so many terms packed into the novel that have entered everyday speak.

albino boo said:
Those four, its only the left have problem with them. Orwell attacks the totalitarian left, which no on the right has a problem with.
It's an attack on fascism and the perversion of ideology, which pretty much comes about as long as you go far enough Left or Right. To say it's an attack on the totalitarian Left you'd have to ignore the damning of Nationalism and the obsession with suppressing sexual desire.
 

triggrhappy94

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Hey come on man, spoiler tag!!
I haven't read Animal Farm yet.


Anyways, I find it weird that a school would take away a book from a student, especially Twilight. Well if you read into Twilight it's actually pretty dangerous for young girls. Movie Bob summed it up pretty well in his analyse of the movies, and I found someone on youtube who pretty much breaks the book down page by page (quote me if you want the link).

I don't know why most of those books are on there. I've had to read To Kill a Mockingbird twice, and once was for a BYU online class. The mormons are fine with it!

I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, a much more risque book, for English in high school. Left it on my desk every day I was reading. My teacher just looked at it, then at me, laughted, and told me not to "get any ideas".
My point is there's much worse books out there, and most of the books on the list aren't that bad.
The only contraversal thing I find about Twilight is that it teachers girls that abusive co-dependant relationships are to be desired, and the only value a young girl has is her virginity.
 

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thaluikhain said:
MisterShine said:
Very similar to Harry Potter ( well, HP is actually quite good, but whatever), anything that gets people into reading more is a-okay by me.
If I may ask, why?

I've heard this a lot, and until recently just sort of accepted it, that kids/people spend too much time in front of the computer or TV instead of a printed page, and this is somehow bad.

Now, there are certainly crap TV and internet stuff around, but printing the stuff out doesn't make it more informative.
Reading is an important skill and thus reading more trains that skill. The most important factor of learning is motivation so it doesn't matter that I learned reading mainly from reading comic books, I am now a quite adequate reader. The fact that the Harry Potter books weren't released in my language until they had taken a year translating and printing them got me into reading books in English which refined my English skills.

In short I have read a lot of books I wouldn't say had a lot of quality, but the things I have read have shaped me into who I am today. If that is good or bad can be discussed I guess.
 

BreakfastMan

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Awesome story, and I completely agree. It is kind of like casual games in a way. They start out with Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja, move on to Infinity Blade and Canabalt, then to Call of Duty and Wii games, and so on.

Also, screw banned book lists and those who make them. :D
 
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So banning books is a pastime for soccer moms in the US.
When I read "banned books" I imagined it was a governmental ban. And I thought to myself "what country is that guy from". I was surprised.
 

Bobic

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Wow, some pretty random stuff got banned at some point. The Harry Potter books? Really? Was that due to the whole witchcraft ---> Satanism thing. Silly christians. And Stephen King has 4 books that got banned, damn that's something to be proud of (and none of them were that book he wrote about a school shooting, he had to remove that himself due to some pesky kid reading it and recreating it, ruining everyone's fun). James and the Giant Peach? That's just baffling. And then there's. . . no. . . it can't be. . . A dictionary? Are you kidding? What the hell did that do to offend.

Also, I couldn't find animal farm. I even did a ctrl-f search for animal and then Orwell, found nothing. Could someone offer an explanation?
 

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I've read most of the books (or tried to) listed in the OP. Honestly, I don't like any of them. (I'll give Animal Farm a pass, however.) I just don't really see what's so good about them, I guess. Though I'll commend your sister for broadening her horizons.

Also, why was an edition of Webster's dictionary banned?
 

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Folks could probably cool it on the "HUR DUR ITS THE US" because, while it's probably justified, and a number of books on that list are still banned somewhere they're also required reading all over the place.

thaluikhain said:
MisterShine said:
If I may ask, why?

I've heard this a lot, and until recently just sort of accepted it, that kids/people spend too much time in front of the computer or TV instead of a printed page, and this is somehow bad.

Now, there are certainly crap TV and internet stuff around, but printing the stuff out doesn't make it more informative.
Well, I'd say the amount of time they spend in front of the computer or TV is perfectly fine, they're just not using their time wisely. Children and young adults of all ages should be frantically emailing, PMing, and/or Facebooking me asking what anime they should be watching. The fact that this is not occurring is indicative of the downfall of our society. But to actually get to the point, the medium doesn't make a difference (well, most fact-oriented shows don't even give you as much information as the opening paragraph of a Wikipedia page, so there the medium makes a difference, but shutting up now). But are the people who read Twilight, or the people who can't even muster the attention span to read Twilight, are those people going on the Internet to get their intellectual stimulation. No. I would go out on a limb and say they're going nowhere to get their intellectual stimulation.

So, that's why. I guess.
 

Arfonious

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What totalitarian and almost facist country do you live in that bans Animal Farm, To kill a mocking bird and 1984?

Because really? What?
 
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Arfonious said:
What totalitarian and almost facist country do you live in that bans Animal Farm, To kill a mocking bird and 1984?

Because really? What?
That's what I thought at first. But it's not a government ban. It is banned from school libraries because parents.
 

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My old school district had no problem with reading books on the banned book list. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is mandatory reading in Junior English, and several other banned books were easily accessible through the school library. No one there had any problem with me reading the highly inappropriate Song of Ice and Fire series.

Although it doesn't really make a difference if a book is on the banned book list. It's just a bunch of overly-religious parents terrified that their kids will get some ideas, there is no actual authority behind it.
 

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Okay I find this amusing as Animal Farm and many of the other books on the banned list were required reading when I was in high school. I probably should try to read some of the ones on this list that I missed because if they were good enough to stir up some controversy they have to be worth reading and discussing.

The only thing that really is a head scratcher for me looking over it is wondering who decided to band the dictionary at some point in time and space. I mean I'd assume that it would have to be for "bad words" being in there but really?
 

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000Ronald said:
..Here is a list of books my little sister has read thanks to Twilight (and religious fanatics)

-Animal Farm by George Orwell

-1984 By George Orwell

-The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain

-The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

-The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne

-Forever by Judy Blume

-To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee(currently)

And she's planning on reading The Color Purple next, because it's Mom's favorite movie.
Heh, your sister has quite the appetite:

"How anybody expects a man to stay in business with every two-bit wowser in the country claiming a veto over what we can say and can't say and what we can show and what we can't show - it's enough to make you throw up. The whole principle is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak." (Robert A. Heinlein)
 

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000Ronald said:
a couple days later, she comes into my room almost crying because, "They killed Boxer."
They didn't kill Boxer, he lives on another farm now! TELL ME THIS IS A LIE!