Nannies Get Angry Over Dante's Inferno Achievement

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The Austin

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Wait.... So if you're unbaptized you go to hell?
according to Christians and Catholics, yes, if you are unbaptized you keep the original sin (eating the apple from the tree of life) and so you go to hell

unless you are unborn, then you become a cherubim

at least thats what i remember from my classes
.....So, I'm going to hell then?
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
Mrsnugglesworth said:
I agree.


But to be totally honest, if they stuck to the poem that close there would be nothing to play. It'd just be a long QTE.
They could have based Hell on Dante's vision and left everyone else out of it.
Make up new characters to fit the game instead of turning Dante into a badass demon-slaying ************ who's trying to go after lost love or whatever.
I guess. It would have taken alot more work, and its not surprising that they did that.
 

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squid5580 said:
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Kuchinawa212 said:
someone will always take offence to anything that's another thinks is funny.

Oh well, I thought it was pretty clever
Explain to me how killing babies is funny or clever.
Haven't you heard dead baby jokes? They are the best because they aren't racist. Here is a couple for you.

How many dead babies does it take to paint a room?
Depends how hard you throw them.

What is the difference between a truckload of dead babies and a truckload of bowling balls?
You can't use a pitchfork to unload bowling balls.

What is red and spins really really fast?
Dead baby in a blender.
How do you get it out?
Nachos.

OT: I am a bit confused. Are they pissed about the achievement title or how you get it?
of course I have heard these jokes. Some of them are really funny.

But just saying "hey, this game has Dead Babies" isn't funny.
 

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Smudge91 said:
I've been meaning to read Dante's Inferno for ages, will do it after i have had all the rest of the reading i have to do is out of the way.
Read the Divine Comedy. Inferno is just the first part to it. You won't get the full story.

CarrionRoc said:
Why do people hate the first amendment so much?
Because not everyone is American and thus we use the international laws for the freedom of speech.

MaxTheReaper said:
beddo said:
Poetic Licence
Turning a poem into a shitty action game is not poetic license.
THANK YOU! I'm reading Dante's series right now. This game is driving a nail into my brain.

Joey245 said:
Wait, EA is making Dante's inferno? I though Capcom made the Devil May Cry games...

Or is this a whole separate game?
*Sigh* Dante was a Spanish poet who basically kick started the Spanish language the way Shakespeare did for English. It has nothing to do with Devil May Cry. Dante's Inferno is about Dante and Virgil (a bard of another time) going through hell to get to Mount Purgatory and then onto Paradise. There is no demon killing, no action packed explosions, no fucking reason to shit on it and turn it into a game.

yeah_so_no said:
Paragon Fury said:
yeah_so_no said:
No, it's Limbo. Limbo was technically considered part of Hell--it was the first circle of Hell in the Inferno--but was actually pretty nice. Limbo was the place for people who couldn't get into Heaven through no fault of their own--unbaptised babies and "virtuous pagans" (who were mainly pagans born before Jesus was born, and were therefore ineligible for Heaven, according to medieval Christian theology. Although the patriarchs of the Old Testament had been allowed into Heaven thanks the Harrowing of Hell, which was when Jesus went into Hell and took out the virtuous pagans during the three days between his death and resurrection). Limbo, in "Inferno," for the unbaptised babies and virtuous pagans was green fields and a beautiful castle that still felt somber because the people there knew they were in an "imperfect" Heaven and unable to reach God.

So this is basically just one more way EA's "Dante's Inferno" has piddled all over the Divine Comedy.

Purgatory, BTW, was where people who weren't evil enough to go to Hell but weren't good enough to get into Heaven went. It was a place where they were punished for a set amount of time to atone for their unforgiven sins. The punishments were pretty close to the ones in Hell--things like having their eyes sewn shut or being burned in a wall of flames--but unlike Hell, there was an end to them, and afterward their sins were purged, the people there could get into Heaven.

Oh, and as for why unbaptised babies went to Hell, it was because even though they hadn't committed any sins themselves, they were still tainted by Original Sin. Baptism was considered necessary for salvation.
I know I shouldn't, but duty requires that I do.


There are people who honestly believe what the above wrote is true and real, and base their lives on it. We let these people be in charge of things, important things, and let t go near our children. And we're okay with it.

Yet replace a few of those words with something like, I dunno, "monkeys" or "bannana cream pies", and we send'em to an insane asylum faster than you could say "Irony".

Why?
...uh, you do realize that Limbo and Purgatory are no longer part of Catholic theology, and I was specifically referring to medieval theology as displayed in Dante's Divine Comedy, right? And that baptism is no longer considered absolutely necessary for salvation of infants in the Catholic church? And that Limbo and Purgatory were never part of the Eastern Orthodox Church or Protestantism, right?

So, yeah, about your soapbox, there.
I just want to say: Booya!

anthony87 said:
Do you think that maybe if we all rose up in arms together we could convince people that us gamers aren't a bunch of blithering idiots who immediately imitate everything we do in video games?
Not when they continue to make games like this at least.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
squid5580 said:
Internet Kraken said:
Kuchinawa212 said:
someone will always take offence to anything that's another thinks is funny.

Oh well, I thought it was pretty clever
Explain to me how killing babies is funny or clever.
Haven't you heard dead baby jokes? They are the best because they aren't racist. Here is a couple for you.

How many dead babies does it take to paint a room?
Depends how hard you throw them.

What is the difference between a truckload of dead babies and a truckload of bowling balls?
You can't use a pitchfork to unload bowling balls.

What is red and spins really really fast?
Dead baby in a blender.
How do you get it out?
Nachos.

OT: I am a bit confused. Are they pissed about the achievement title or how you get it?
of course I have heard these jokes. Some of them are really funny.

But just saying "hey, this game has Dead Babies" isn't funny.
holy crap, you dont get a joke do you? its not serious. Like when people make fun of death. Most everyone has a serious issue with people going out and killing babies in reality, but in a game when I can walk up to a carriage and beat the face in of the 2 year old thats wouldnt stop crying I laugh. I laugh because its different, I laugh because of the squishy sounds it makes. Hell i even laugh at all the babies will probably be white! NO ONE ON THIS FORUM THINK REAL DEAD BABIES ARE FUNNY!
Eatbrainz said:
i dont think they get the point, the setting is HELL, that already means the game wont fuck around with just killing demons.
also this. they are making a game based on an actual religious HELL.
also, every seems to be complaining bout how this is such a bastardization of the literature.....Am I the only one who remembers devil may cry/the divine comedy? it was still an awesome game!
 

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PurpleRain said:
Smudge91 said:
I've been meaning to read Dante's Inferno for ages, will do it after i have had all the rest of the reading i have to do is out of the way.
Read the Divine Comedy. Inferno is just the first part to it. You won't get the full story.

CarrionRoc said:
Why do people hate the first amendment so much?
Because not everyone is American and thus we use the international laws for the freedom of speech.

MaxTheReaper said:
beddo said:
Poetic Licence
Turning a poem into a shitty action game is not poetic license.
THANK YOU! I'm reading Dante's series right now. This game is driving a nail into my brain.

Joey245 said:
Wait, EA is making Dante's inferno? I though Capcom made the Devil May Cry games...

Or is this a whole separate game?
*Sigh* Dante was a Spanish poet who basically kick started the Spanish language the way Shakespeare did for English. It has nothing to do with Devil May Cry. Dante's Inferno is about Dante and Virgil (a bard of another time) going through hell to get to Mount Purgatory and then onto Paradise. There is no demon killing, no action packed explosions, no fucking reason to shit on it and turn it into a game.

yeah_so_no said:
Paragon Fury said:
yeah_so_no said:
No, it's Limbo. Limbo was technically considered part of Hell--it was the first circle of Hell in the Inferno--but was actually pretty nice. Limbo was the place for people who couldn't get into Heaven through no fault of their own--unbaptised babies and "virtuous pagans" (who were mainly pagans born before Jesus was born, and were therefore ineligible for Heaven, according to medieval Christian theology. Although the patriarchs of the Old Testament had been allowed into Heaven thanks the Harrowing of Hell, which was when Jesus went into Hell and took out the virtuous pagans during the three days between his death and resurrection). Limbo, in "Inferno," for the unbaptised babies and virtuous pagans was green fields and a beautiful castle that still felt somber because the people there knew they were in an "imperfect" Heaven and unable to reach God.

So this is basically just one more way EA's "Dante's Inferno" has piddled all over the Divine Comedy.

Purgatory, BTW, was where people who weren't evil enough to go to Hell but weren't good enough to get into Heaven went. It was a place where they were punished for a set amount of time to atone for their unforgiven sins. The punishments were pretty close to the ones in Hell--things like having their eyes sewn shut or being burned in a wall of flames--but unlike Hell, there was an end to them, and afterward their sins were purged, the people there could get into Heaven.

Oh, and as for why unbaptised babies went to Hell, it was because even though they hadn't committed any sins themselves, they were still tainted by Original Sin. Baptism was considered necessary for salvation.
I know I shouldn't, but duty requires that I do.


There are people who honestly believe what the above wrote is true and real, and base their lives on it. We let these people be in charge of things, important things, and let t go near our children. And we're okay with it.

Yet replace a few of those words with something like, I dunno, "monkeys" or "bannana cream pies", and we send'em to an insane asylum faster than you could say "Irony".

Why?
...uh, you do realize that Limbo and Purgatory are no longer part of Catholic theology, and I was specifically referring to medieval theology as displayed in Dante's Divine Comedy, right? And that baptism is no longer considered absolutely necessary for salvation of infants in the Catholic church? And that Limbo and Purgatory were never part of the Eastern Orthodox Church or Protestantism, right?

So, yeah, about your soapbox, there.
I just want to say: Booya!

anthony87 said:
Do you think that maybe if we all rose up in arms together we could convince people that us gamers aren't a bunch of blithering idiots who immediately imitate everything we do in video games?
Not when they continue to make games like this at least.
what if we make a game called "The things we wish we could do to you but dont because we have a release for it, so shut up and be happy its not YOU on the end of my lv 4 holy mace"
 

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Lullabye said:
Internet Kraken said:
squid5580 said:
Internet Kraken said:
Kuchinawa212 said:
someone will always take offence to anything that's another thinks is funny.

Oh well, I thought it was pretty clever
Explain to me how killing babies is funny or clever.
Haven't you heard dead baby jokes? They are the best because they aren't racist. Here is a couple for you.

How many dead babies does it take to paint a room?
Depends how hard you throw them.

What is the difference between a truckload of dead babies and a truckload of bowling balls?
You can't use a pitchfork to unload bowling balls.

What is red and spins really really fast?
Dead baby in a blender.
How do you get it out?
Nachos.

OT: I am a bit confused. Are they pissed about the achievement title or how you get it?
of course I have heard these jokes. Some of them are really funny.

But just saying "hey, this game has Dead Babies" isn't funny.
holy crap, you dont get a joke do you? its not serious. Like when people make fun of death. Most everyone has a serious issue with people going out and killing babies in reality, but in a game when I can walk up to a carriage and beat the face in of the 2 year old thats wouldnt stop crying I laugh. I laugh because its different, I laugh because of the squishy sounds it makes. Hell i even laugh at all the babies will probably be white! NO ONE ON THIS FORUM THINK REAL DEAD BABIES ARE FUNNY!
I'm not saying it's serious. What I am saying is that it's not funny. There has to be something humorous involved in killing the baby for it to be funny. That applies to anything you can kill. I don't see how just beating out a babies brains alone is funny.

Also, I never said anyone on this forum thought real dead babies were funny. Who would?
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Lullabye said:
Internet Kraken said:
squid5580 said:
Internet Kraken said:
Kuchinawa212 said:
someone will always take offence to anything that's another thinks is funny.

Oh well, I thought it was pretty clever
Explain to me how killing babies is funny or clever.
Haven't you heard dead baby jokes? They are the best because they aren't racist. Here is a couple for you.

How many dead babies does it take to paint a room?
Depends how hard you throw them.

What is the difference between a truckload of dead babies and a truckload of bowling balls?
You can't use a pitchfork to unload bowling balls.

What is red and spins really really fast?
Dead baby in a blender.
How do you get it out?
Nachos.

OT: I am a bit confused. Are they pissed about the achievement title or how you get it?
of course I have heard these jokes. Some of them are really funny.

But just saying "hey, this game has Dead Babies" isn't funny.
holy crap, you dont get a joke do you? its not serious. Like when people make fun of death. Most everyone has a serious issue with people going out and killing babies in reality, but in a game when I can walk up to a carriage and beat the face in of the 2 year old thats wouldnt stop crying I laugh. I laugh because its different, I laugh because of the squishy sounds it makes. Hell i even laugh at all the babies will probably be white! NO ONE ON THIS FORUM THINK REAL DEAD BABIES ARE FUNNY!
I'm not saying it's serious. What I am saying is that it's not funny. There has to be something humorous involved in killing the baby for it to be funny. That applies to anything you can kill. I don't see how just beating out a babies brains alone is funny.

Also, I never said anyone on this forum thought real dead babies were funny. Who would?
you know, there is this thing called subjectivity. whats funny is subjective. if you dont get it then you dont get it. dont ask stupid questions.
 

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Lullabye said:
you know, there is this thing called subjectivity. whats funny is subjective. if you dont get it then you dont get it. dont ask stupid questions.
So because you can't answer the question you call it stupid? All I'm asking is for you to explain why you find it funny. I don't see why that's such a big problem. I'm not trying to criticize your sense of humor.
 

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Lullabye said:
what if we make a game called "The things we wish we could do to you but dont because we have a release for it, so shut up and be happy its not YOU on the end of my lv 4 holy mace"
You're from EA? Anyway, I would rather them not take a poem held in such high regard and tear it to shreds. I mean, let's take King Lear and have him as a bad mo fo killing the shit out of kingdoms. His daughters and their husbands could be god rulers and now Lear has to fight his way to heaven and through them all back to hell. At the end of the game there's a QTE where he slides along the back of a giant snake before seeing that his true daughter is dead. Then he rages up and goes to hell to save her.

Wait a sec... that's not what King Lear's about? Fuck it, we paid good money for the rights. Let's keep the name. Ditto with Dante's inferno. Since when was he a bad arse? He faints when he first goes to hell. He cling to Virgil nearly all the time and occasionally chats with dead guys. The end.
 

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Im gonna kill a whole lot of babies in Dantes Inferno...Just out of spite.
 

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PurpleRain said:
Joey245 said:
Wait, EA is making Dante's inferno? I though Capcom made the Devil May Cry games...

Or is this a whole separate game?
*Sigh* Dante was a Spanish poet who basically kick started the Spanish language the way Shakespeare did for English. It has nothing to do with Devil May Cry. Dante's Inferno is about Dante and Virgil (a bard of another time) going through hell to get to Mount Purgatory and then onto Paradise. There is no demon killing, no action packed explosions, no fucking reason to shit on it and turn it into a game.
Ah, I see. thank you for correcting my mistake, and doing it without insulting me. Good to know there's decency left...
 

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PurpleRain said:
*Sigh* Dante was a Spanish poet who basically kick started the Spanish language the way Shakespeare did for English. It has nothing to do with Devil May Cry. Dante's Inferno is about Dante and Virgil (a bard of another time) going through hell to get to Mount Purgatory and then onto Paradise. There is no demon killing, no action packed explosions, no fucking reason to shit on it and turn it into a game.
Err....Dante was Italian. And he didn't so much kick-start Italian as he caused his dialect of Italian (Florentine) to become the standard, which is why he's "the Father of the Italian Language." (Ironically enough, he didn't consider himself to speak "Italian". According to a class I took on Dante when I was in college--and my prof was the president of my college and a respected Dante scholar--he, and other Italians of the time, still considered themselves to be speaking Latin, IIRC.)

You might be thinking of Cervantes ("Don Quixote"), who was for Spanish what Shakespeare was for English. ^^;;
 

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PurpleRain said:
Lullabye said:
what if we make a game called "The things we wish we could do to you but dont because we have a release for it, so shut up and be happy its not YOU on the end of my lv 4 holy mace"
You're from EA? Anyway, I would rather them not take a poem held in such high regard and tear it to shreds. I mean, let's take King Lear and have him as a bad mo fo killing the shit out of kingdoms. His daughters and their husbands could be god rulers and now Lear has to fight his way to heaven and through them all back to hell. At the end of the game there's a QTE where he slides along the back of a giant snake before seeing that his true daughter is dead. Then he rages up and goes to hell to save her.

Wait a sec... that's not what King Lear's about? Fuck it, we paid good money for the rights. Let's keep the name. Ditto with Dante's inferno. Since when was he a bad arse? He faints when he first goes to hell. He cling to Virgil nearly all the time and occasionally chats with dead guys. The end.
Why not? It's just a poem. Would've been more interesting with gratuitous violence.
 

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Fuck, I'm not a nanny but even I think this is fucking disgusting! Some things are funny because they're outrageous, but this is sick, stupid and in ridiculously poor taste! And all the dumb cunts here shouting "LOLWUT we can murder babies for laffs if we want stupid feminazis lol!!!!" just makes me more convinced that our gaming culture DOES actually have too many leprous retards in it.

This isn't like not being able to murder children in Fallout 3, which would be a moral choice issue even if it was allowed- this is just getting us to do something obscenely tasteless with no repercussions and giving us an incentive (an achievement, which is completely detached from the actual gameplay) to do so. Fucking stupid.