Net Neutrality being overruled. please god tell me its a joke.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/05/technology/trumps-fcc-quickly-targets-net-neutrality-rules.html?_r=0

Found original source of article. Anyways, some illumination on this matter would be helpful. Please. Dear god please let this be wrong.
 

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America electing Trump was the joke and this might very well be one of the punchlines.

I can see a man devoted to big business harm consumer rights on the matter in order to please his corporate buddies. I'd be surprised if he didn't.
 

Zhukov

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This'll only affect Muslims and queers though, right?

It's all part of the great man's plan to keep Real Americans safe and make America great again.
 

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So I wrote an email to my congressmen. Here it is
this is an email I just sent to Representative Kennedy and Kerr. All hyperlinks are in brackets [],m with the links to the sites I was referencing at the bottom of the comment.

[A recent news article from the NY Times that has me worried.]

So some background information on me. I've never written a senator, Representative, or really any congressmen ever. I've only voted through mail in ballots, and typically spend only that day where I go through my ballot learning about all of you and your policy stances. I consider myself an Independent that has left leanings. and i'm an avid internet denizen, and use internet services to stay in constant contact with my friend and acquaintances across the world. I'm currently preparing to join the military, and I plan on perhaps going into politics after learning the necessary skills while in the service. I'm also just a slightly over weight white male sitting in his dark room in his parent's house. Every great leader has their humble beginnings I suppose.

While I know you both aren't dedicated to the same field, this man's policy and assignment brings me great concern. Net Neutrality I feel is the cornerstone to the future of international competitiveness with other nations, as the Internet is the last bastion for true free exchange of information and competition that does not rely on money to get anything done, instead being driven by novel ideas and true originality. [Currently Internet Service Providers have monopolies all across the country, monopolies that are technically illegal.] While John Oliver is hardly the best source, he does put it succinctly and plainly enough that I feel its reliable enough.

Now I've taken a class for micro economics, and I have a base understanding of the many difficulties and complexities in the modern day markets, in that same class I also got a good inkling of how big business work. They don't care about the consumer, or at least are so big and bumbling that you can't count on them caring, if it would make sure they got their employees paychecks and allowed them to get a leg up on their competitors they'd personally drown a bag of puppies or even kill a man a day if that would guaranteed it. Because businesses are business first, they're their investors first, they aren't CONSUMER first. They aren't your mom and pop store down on 5th and Manse Avenue where you've known the owners since you were in college, and occasionally go in and get a coffee with them. They're the big Lovecraftian amorphous blob of power and hunger that only wants more money and to stay relevant in today's global market, so they're like the 20th century World War 1 great powers, uncaring of the "little guys". And Net Neutrality protects not only independent small businesses, but consumers first.

[I should point you out to this Business insider infographic that demonstrates what will happen to the internet if its deregulated.]

Trump complains about the "Dishonest media" one should first see who owns the media to see why its so "Dishonest". You will notice in that info graphic on the link, that the last three companies, Viacom, Time Warner, and CBS, are Internet Service Providers.

Have you ever heard of the term, ["Knowledge is power? hide it well."]

Well with the power to control the fastest form of communication, I fear that we will give these organization, control over the news media, control over the internet, and control over large segments of media and advertising, meaning they'd be the gatekeepers, the controllers, of all information in the nation. The only major competitor, the government, would need to make sure these organizations would still respect the rights of the consumer, you can either do that now and keep the internet free and regulated for everyone, and leave the price for the monopolizing ISPs as the price of controlling a monopoly, or you can have a multitude of legal and commercial headache in a decade or two, that will cost the country billions, and may even cause another crash in the economy. Now I've already given you all like 10 minute of reading, and a 15 minute video, [but I'm going to link you to yet ANOTHER video] (about 40 minutes long) about the game Deus Ex, (Perhaps one of the most influential video games in modern day history) because I agree with the commentator (Ross Scot, writer, and voice talent behind Freeman's Mind). I mean, even if this is just going to be read by some intern or secretary, at least I'm giving you an excuse to eat lunch while watching a humorous video with the justification you're doing work (If you happen to be doing just that, please remove this last sentence when you pass this along 😊).

Watch the video? Good, then you know where I'm coming from and the fears that I have on the matter. Now I don't claim to be an expert, nor a well informed amateur. I'm your average american citizen in his early 20s, and to be frank, I'm terrified of a lot of things. The economy, life, my future both economic and social, and for my country and its continued standing in the world stage. But I can hide my fears for the benefits of my friends and family, trust in my representatives to do the right thing, [and hope for the best.]

I don't know what else to say. Maybe I missed something? Maybe I didn't. But I would love to continue the conversation, and perhaps talk about future issues.

With Regards
Alexander Lloyd Johnson
Colorado State Citizen

I hope those hyperlinks work, otherwise this email will be a lot less impactful.

In case they don't in order:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/05/technology/trumps-fcc-quickly-targets-net-neutrality-rules.html?_r=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpbOEoRrHyU
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6
https://youtu.be/rf_3ZTp4eG4?t=19s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxOKEsBx4NU
https://youtu.be/rf_3ZTp4eG4?t=15s
 

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I knew this was going to happen as soon as Trump got elected. The man is so pro-business that it isn't even funny (actually, it wasn't funny to begin with).

Enjoy your fleeting victory over SJWs while it lasts, Trump fans, because you just exchanged one form of regressivism (social authoritarianism) for another (corporate authoritarianism). The Corporate Bastards have come to roost and, unlike the SJWs, they had the money and special interests to buy out politicians long ago. With Trump in office, former telecom execs running the FCC, "free market" Republicans in control of Congress and an even more pro-business Supreme Court soon, they're going to be able to pass all the anti-consumer bullshit they want.

 

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One paragraph in and I'm already unable to trust the article. " Ajit Pai has aggressively moved to roll back consumer protection regulations created during the Obama presidency." What protection regulation? The past 8 years was an unending battle against the Obama administration (with some help from the GOP) trying to kill net neutrality and consumer protection. If they can't get this straight how am I supposed to trust anything else they have to say on the matter?
 

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Can we just build a wall around USA and stop their stupidity from spreading to, and affecting, the rest of the world?
 

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Zontar said:
One paragraph in and I'm already unable to trust the article. " Ajit Pai has aggressively moved to roll back consumer protection regulations created during the Obama presidency." What protection regulation? The past 8 years was an unending battle against the Obama administration (with some help from the GOP) trying to kill net neutrality and consumer protection. If they can't get this straight how am I supposed to trust anything else they have to say on the matter?
So you're just going to pretend that this isn't happening. There are sources in the articles about what the guy has done.

This is happening. The candidate you supported is doing this.
 

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erttheking said:
Zontar said:
One paragraph in and I'm already unable to trust the article. " Ajit Pai has aggressively moved to roll back consumer protection regulations created during the Obama presidency." What protection regulation? The past 8 years was an unending battle against the Obama administration (with some help from the GOP) trying to kill net neutrality and consumer protection. If they can't get this straight how am I supposed to trust anything else they have to say on the matter?
So you're just going to pretend that this isn't happening. There are sources in the articles about what the guy has done.

This is happening. The candidate you supported is doing this.
I thought part of the TPP concerned about Net Neautrality's death, why kill that if he was gonna destroy Net Neutrality anyway?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
erttheking said:
Zontar said:
One paragraph in and I'm already unable to trust the article. " Ajit Pai has aggressively moved to roll back consumer protection regulations created during the Obama presidency." What protection regulation? The past 8 years was an unending battle against the Obama administration (with some help from the GOP) trying to kill net neutrality and consumer protection. If they can't get this straight how am I supposed to trust anything else they have to say on the matter?
So you're just going to pretend that this isn't happening. There are sources in the articles about what the guy has done.

This is happening. The candidate you supported is doing this.
I thought part of the TPP concerned about Net Neautrality's death, why kill that if he was gonna destroy Net Neutrality anyway?
TPP was not just about Internet but trade and since Trump built his platform on having stuff being made in america again it makes sense he would can it. That doesn't mean he gives a damn about the Internet part.
 

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tf2godz said:
Samtemdo8 said:
erttheking said:
Zontar said:
One paragraph in and I'm already unable to trust the article. " Ajit Pai has aggressively moved to roll back consumer protection regulations created during the Obama presidency." What protection regulation? The past 8 years was an unending battle against the Obama administration (with some help from the GOP) trying to kill net neutrality and consumer protection. If they can't get this straight how am I supposed to trust anything else they have to say on the matter?
So you're just going to pretend that this isn't happening. There are sources in the articles about what the guy has done.

This is happening. The candidate you supported is doing this.
I thought part of the TPP concerned about Net Neautrality's death, why kill that if he was gonna destroy Net Neutrality anyway?
TPP was not just about Internet but trade and since Trump built his platform on having stuff being made in america again it makes sense he would can it. That doesn't mean he gives a damn about the Internet part.
If this is accurate then I guess the game was rigged against us from the start. Oh well, at least the fact it's Trump instead of Clinton doing it we can at least hope the large tech corporations that aren't telecommunication companies will try to stop this. I mean it is in the interest of literally every person and entity that isn't in telecommunication.
 

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Zontar said:
One paragraph in and I'm already unable to trust the article. " Ajit Pai has aggressively moved to roll back consumer protection regulations created during the Obama presidency." What protection regulation? The past 8 years was an unending battle against the Obama administration (with some help from the GOP) trying to kill net neutrality and consumer protection. If they can't get this straight how am I supposed to trust anything else they have to say on the matter?
Hence me asking if anyone can give me more sources and stuff.

Anyways, please pass the bleach.
 

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Timedraven 117 said:
Zontar said:
One paragraph in and I'm already unable to trust the article. " Ajit Pai has aggressively moved to roll back consumer protection regulations created during the Obama presidency." What protection regulation? The past 8 years was an unending battle against the Obama administration (with some help from the GOP) trying to kill net neutrality and consumer protection. If they can't get this straight how am I supposed to trust anything else they have to say on the matter?
Hence me asking if anyone can give me more sources and stuff.

Anyways, please pass the bleach.
Don't worry my suicide cult followers at the Bleachvengers have an endless supply of the stuff.
 

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What did you expect? You took some demagog, self-centered manchild whose idea of progress is closing down and hunker down from the rest of the world, whose speech was dominated by 1) how everyone that is not a true american (meaning traditional immigrant descendant) is evil, 2) that the only good media is the one that flatters him, and 3) how he knows better because he inherited a corporation; and elevated him to a position of real power, and now you are surprised that he is using that power to help corporations instead of consumers and that he would give no second thought to killing anything that starts with "free speech"?

I would laugh out loud at the joke half of US citizens fall for if it wasn't so sad.
 

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hermes said:
What did you expect? You took some demagog, self-centered manchild whose idea of progress is closing down and hunker down from the rest of the world, whose speech was dominated by 1) how everyone that is not a true american (meaning traditional immigrant descendant) is evil, 2) that the only good media is the one that flatters him, and 3) how he knows better because he inherited a corporation; and elevated him to a position of real power, and now you are surprised that he is using that power to help corporations instead of consumers and that he would give no second thought to killing anything that starts with "free speech"?

I would laugh out loud at the joke half of US citizens fall for if it wasn't so sad.
I voted for Garry Johnson, and actually Trump lost the popular vote, he just won the electorate.
 

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Zontar said:
Timedraven 117 said:
Zontar said:
One paragraph in and I'm already unable to trust the article. " Ajit Pai has aggressively moved to roll back consumer protection regulations created during the Obama presidency." What protection regulation? The past 8 years was an unending battle against the Obama administration (with some help from the GOP) trying to kill net neutrality and consumer protection. If they can't get this straight how am I supposed to trust anything else they have to say on the matter?
Hence me asking if anyone can give me more sources and stuff.

Anyways, please pass the bleach.
Don't worry my suicide cult followers at the Bleachvengers have an endless supply of the stuff.
Is it just for drinking or can I use it for... cleaning?
 

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This'll only affect Muslims and queers though, right?
Yeah, and the queer Muslims are really in the shit. They're going to make them use 56K modems and Netscape.