Neverwinter Nights 2 is the most fatally buggy game I've ever played.

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ZombieGenesis

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Given that NN2 has been on the steam sale lately I threw down £8 and decided to give it a try, since I've been in the mood for an RPG game lately. In the time since playing it I've had to start over twice, both times encountering game breaking glitches!

The first happened because one of the characters who was supposed to die, through some divine intervention, simply didn't- this left them stuck in my group for a while and from that point on talking to certain NPCs (like the wizard) caused my game to crash to desktop.

Second time through, got further into it. Managed to obtain everything I needed, and it was off to Neverwinter! ...why am I walking so slow? What is this?
Inventory? Nope. Curse? Nope. Toggle track/stealth/search? Nope.

Turns out, like many people a google search has discovered, my character has become the victim of a literally permanent case of the 'slow movement speed' effect. Can't be removed by any in-game or console means, and the game is once again broken.

... can I have my £8 back? Despite this being the fully patched version (for such an old game) none of these issues have been fixed. The slow movement thing has come up a bunch and there has NEVER been a fix for it.
 

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I'm not a pc gamer but...aren't there mods for it? It's an Obsidian game, right? Those are always (without exception) buggy as hell. Knights of the Old Republic 2 recieved massive mod support from fans, though.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Given that NN2 has been on the steam sale lately I threw down £8 and decided to give it a try, since I've been in the mood for an RPG game lately. In the time since playing it I've had to start over twice, both times encountering game breaking glitches!

The first happened because one of the characters who was supposed to die, through some divine intervention, simply didn't- this left them stuck in my group for a while and from that point on talking to certain NPCs (like the wizard) caused my game to crash to desktop.

Second time through, got further into it. Managed to obtain everything I needed, and it was off to Neverwinter! ...why am I walking so slow? What is this?
Inventory? Nope. Curse? Nope. Toggle track/stealth/search? Nope.

Turns out, like many people a google search has discovered, my character has become the victim of a literally permanent case of the 'slow movement speed' effect. Can't be removed by any in-game or console means, and the game is once again broken.

... can I have my £8 back? Despite this being the fully patched version (for such an old game) none of these issues have been fixed. The slow movement thing has come up a bunch and there has NEVER been a fix for it.
Yeah, it's a pretty buggy game, I had problems where all my textures disappeared, and had to re-enable it through console every single time the game loaded a new area.

You're not missing much, the main game is pretty meh, especially with the TERRIBLE ending. Act I is so bad, that even though Act II and III have good parts, going through it again would just be torture. The expansion pack Mask of the Betrayer is really good though, and Storm of Zehir is interesting.
 

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Well, what did you expect from a game developed by Obsidian?.

You could've bought NWN1 from GoG and be done with it, I never played NWN2, but I hear from many NWN vets that 1 is a thousand times better, it runs better, it's less buggy (I haven't encountered a single game breaking bug so far), it has more community content than NWN2 and... well, you get the idea.

Shit happens bro, I felt the exact same way when I pre-ordered Darksiders from Steam, in part I bought it because it included Titan Quest, but still...
 

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I tried playing nwn2 and it was plagued with slowdown and stuttering and all kinds of bullshit. I later found out that the game does not run properly on dual core systems. You might try altering the core priorities or w/e the hell it's called where you specify that a certain exe runs with only one core. You're right though... buggy as a ************. Play some Disciples instead :D
 

ZombieGenesis

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Massive letdown. That was eight quid I could have used for.. KOTOR! Or... something obscure and JRPGish. My search for a fun new RPG game goes on.
 

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Tell that to all the people who voted Obsidan so high in March Mayhem.
They do nothing but bug up sequels to games.
 

AlternatePFG

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Obsidian makes great games.

If your computer doesn't CTD every 30 minutes because of them. :V
 

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I actually really like NWN2. It's rough in places certainly, but I've never heard of anyone having quite the number of issues you seem to have stumbled across. Pity!

Mask of the Betrayer, the games first expansion pack, is probably one of my favourite rpg experience to have come out within the past couple of years. Excellent story, interesting characters, surprisingly good visuals, stunning soundtrack, and a fantastic take on the old and familiar Forgotten Realms setting. Combat is still a rough ordeal at times, and the supremely high level characters you end up controlling certainly don't help the balancing issues, but I liked it!

Besides, I'd still take a rough combat system like NWN2's over the first games. D&D just isn't suited to playing solo, and while some fan campaign take advantage of that aspect of the game, overall NWN1 just felt weaker because of it. It felt like a multiplayer game with a poorly thought out singleplayer, which is pretty much what it was. NWN2 went the opposite route with a more well thought out singleplayer, but poorer multiplayer. Which considering I never played NWN1's multiplayer, suits me just fine!

Game was buggy on release, but Obsidian to their credit release a metric ton of patches and post-release support. Probably why I'm kinda surprised to see this topic popping up now of all times! This is a couple years late to the proverbial party.
 

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The Madman said:
I actually really like NWN2. It's rough in places certainly, but I've never heard of anyone having quite the number of issues you seem to have stumbled across. Pity!

Mask of the Betrayer, the games first expansion pack, is probably one of my favourite rpg experience to have come out within the past couple of years. Excellent story, interesting characters, surprisingly good visuals, stunning soundtrack, and a fantastic take on the old and familiar Forgotten Realms setting. Combat is still a rough ordeal at times, and the supremely high level characters you end up controlling certainly don't help the balancing issues, but I liked it!

Besides, I'd still take a rough combat system like NWN2's over the first games. D&D just isn't suited to playing solo, and while some fan campaign take advantage of that aspect of the game, overall NWN1 just felt weaker because of it. It felt like a multiplayer game with a poorly thought out singleplayer, which is pretty much what it was. NWN2 went the opposite route with a more well thought out singleplayer, but poorer multiplayer. Which considering I never played NWN1's multiplayer, suits me just fine!

Game was buggy on release, but Obsidian to their credit release a metric ton of patches and post-release support. Probably why I'm kinda surprised to see this topic popping up now of all times! This is a couple years late to the proverbial party.
As I said, it's just gone up on Steam. If the party is over then they're having an Anniversary Dinner.

If these kinds of problems exist I won't be the only one who feels jipped by this midweeks sale.
 

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Never was buggy for me, but I found Neverwinter Nights 2 terribly boring. I stopped playing a couple hours in, because the game wasn't getting any less linear, and the really long unskippable story sequences were bland, and even annoying. It's a game that placed story and characters above gameplay; something a game should never do (I dunno if that's just a feature of D&D games, since this is the only D&D style game I have ever played)
 
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Huh, and here I figured it would have been optimized and bugs been ironed out for the Steam release. Silly me for thinking everyone would be as cool as GoG is.
 

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DustyDrB said:
I'm not a pc gamer but...aren't there mods for it? It's an Obsidian game, right? Those are always (without exception) buggy as hell. Knights of the Old Republic 2 recieved massive mod support from fans, though.
It certainly seems that way, Obsidian has certainly developed a fairly particular reputation for releasing buggy games that don't-quite-live-up-to-their-predecessors. Not to mention all of the sequels they made are from other companies' games. I don't hate Obsidian, the games are decent, but that's just what seems to be happening.
 

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I bought it when it first came out after loving the first one. I think it's crashed once or twice and a few minor bugs but not a single major issue and I've played through it and its expansions several times as well. Then again I got mine in a store not from steam so that could have something to do with it maybe?
 

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AlternatePFG said:
Obsidian makes great games.

If your computer doesn't CTD every 30 minutes because of them. :V
QFT. This flawed but beautiful shtick is getting pretty old, don't think I'll buy buying any Obby games in the future.
 

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Yeah that game pretty much requires you to use community patches to make it run well...much like Oblivion.
 

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The Madman said:
I actually really like NWN2. It's rough in places certainly, but I've never heard of anyone having quite the number of issues you seem to have stumbled across. Pity!

Mask of the Betrayer, the games first expansion pack, is probably one of my favourite rpg experience to have come out within the past couple of years. Excellent story, interesting characters, surprisingly good visuals, stunning soundtrack, and a fantastic take on the old and familiar Forgotten Realms setting. Combat is still a rough ordeal at times, and the supremely high level characters you end up controlling certainly don't help the balancing issues, but I liked it!
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This. MotB is my favorite RPG of all times, especially with the "evil" ending. The only way it could have been better is to allow me to stab Drizzt Do'urden
 

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That's what I thought about Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines and now after a giant patch I have 50+ hours with only 1 playthough.

I also just yesterday was complaining that Gothic 1 and 2 don't work. A few patches and fixes later both are up and running well.

Have hope there is a fix somewhere, you just need to dig deeper. I know a few people who have beaten the game multiple times. If they did it without too much trouble you can too.