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madster11 said:
We've had these ads for years.
Our packets have to be hidden from view in shops and soon we're going plain packaging (blank cardboard so no fonts or pictures).
This is after massive tax increases so a pack costs about $20.

Our government is pretty retarded.
People know smoking is bad. THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

So maybe the government needs to fuck off. If i want to drink acid i should be allowed to, just the same as if someone wants to inhale a bunch of bad shit they should be able to.

But no, go ahead idiots, ban everything bad for peoples health so our population does nothing but grow and become old. It doesn't cost anything to keep 5 billion 100year olds alive or anything.
I disagree with that notion, and I think it's highly unjustified. Tobacco shouldn't remain legal simply to keep the age population as young as possible. We can handle that when it comes around (it's also unethical.)

It should be banned because it offers nothing. Weed actually stimulates your mind with minimum risk involved. The only thing tabacco does is release the urge, after you're already addicted though. It's also a big killer.

I'm a smoker. Despite me wanting to quit and knowing the risks, I can't. I'm too used to doing it (although there is a new pill on the market that actually works.) It's just as much a habbit as it is an addiction.
 

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F4LL3N said:
It should be banned because it offers nothing.
No, it shouldn't be banned because a ban would do nothing. Or are you unfamiliar with the glowing success record of prohibition in all of its forms.

Like it or not, people choose to smoke and should be allowed to choose to smoke so long as we live in countries which place any importance on personal freedom and responsibility.
 

hazabaza1

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I don't really think shock tactics will do much apart from gross out people.
 

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Alright, That video was just Reefer Madness levels of hate for smoking. Unlike Reefer Madness however, it's a real thing.
Still, Don't shove that into our eyeballs. Everyone's aware of the dangers of smoking. I applaud her courage for doing the commercial, but this is about as close to a hate speech against smokers as you can get without actually delivering a hate speech.
Also: [link]http://www.theonion.com/video/new-antismoking-ads-warn-teens-its-gay-to-smoke,14373/[/link]
Because the CDC is stupid, and the Onion is awesome.
 

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I think the ads are somewhat distasteful, but if they manage to put kids off from smoking (I'm sure someone will do a study at some point), then I can swallow my distaste.

I currently don't have an opinion on the effectiveness of these ads, since their effect, if any, would probably be intangible and more of a "cultural awareness" thing rather than spreading actual knowledge (that is, most people already know smoking is bad, but perhaps these ads do more to make people consciously apply that knowledge).
 

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Shock tactics don't work on me. I'm sure the reason why they came up with these ads is because the shock tactic warnings they wanted put on packs of smokes got killed. Still, I'm sure they work on some people but no one these days goes into smoking without knowing how terrible it is for you. It's been about a month since my last cigarette. I miss is dearly but am glad to have quit. Not for any health reason though.......I like having that extra cash in my bank account.
 

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Nouw said:
I suppose if people are going to be shocked out of smoking through a video, instead of statistics and science, it's doing its job well. I don't particularly like these videos, it gives the message that 'if you smoke you're going to end up like me' which isn't necessarily true. But then again, they're having to resort to these shock tactics because facts and figures won't stop them. Hmm... I suppose they're a necessary 'evil' then. I think.
I was shocked out of eating meat by peta slaughterhouse vids, shock tatics work and i think for products like cigarettes shock tatics are most effective, but lets face it, people wont stop smoking until it become to expensive to continue
 

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TrilbyWill said:
Anyway, in Britain we don't go after the smokers.
Our anti-smoking ads are "If you smoke, you will murder your children in their sleep!"
Seriously, one shows smoke-snake wrap itself around a baby's neck.
We have those too. Except the ads are actually kind of adorable.
Daaaaw. It's like watching a child put on their parent's shoes.
 

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Smoking is bad for you? Holy shit when did they discover this?

OT: Almost everything is bad for you. I don't get the hate for smoking. Try and enjoy your life a bit for F sake. A friend of mine died at 29 when she just became a mother a month before that. Congenital heart defect. Never smoked a day in her life. Drink, smoke, fall in love, get your heart broken, get kids, see the world, jump out of an airplane (preferably with a parachute). Live your life because even if you don't smoke you can die any second now.

Captcha: dead ringer. Creepy...
 

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iseko said:
Smoking is bad for you? Holy shit when did they discover this?

OT: Almost everything is bad for you. I don't get the hate for smoking. Try and enjoy your life a bit for F sake. A friend of mine died at 29 when she just became a mother a month before that. Congenital heart defect. Never smoked a day in her life. Drink, smoke, fall in love, get your heart broken, get kids, see the world, jump out of an airplane (preferably with a parachute). Live your life because even if you don't smoke you can die any second now.

Captcha: dead ringer. Creepy...
quoting a post i read before, "i swear the fucking capcha's are becoming sentient"

OT: i guess thats the thing, its a non necessity a "pleasure" which has serious health ramifications not to mention costs a fuck ton to maintain

i've never really had pleasure smoking, all its ever done is made me extremely dizzy and sick
 

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Dags90 said:
TrilbyWill said:
Anyway, in Britain we don't go after the smokers.
Our anti-smoking ads are "If you smoke, you will murder your children in their sleep!"
Seriously, one shows smoke-snake wrap itself around a baby's neck.
We have those too. Except the ads are actually kind of adorable.
Daaaaw. It's like watching a child put on their parent's shoes.
That one was actually good. It was funny (I liked the pun) it didn't show just the worst case scenario as the other one did, just informed people that second hand smoking is a thing. Which people seem to forget sometimes.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Yeah.... Fuck this, I'm quitting. This is my last pack. I don't want to end up sounding like Donald Duck.

Although I was quitting anyway, so this commercial didn't really change much I guess...
You should hear my neighbor.

She sounds like a shot horse.

Or a vacuum cleaner.

iseko said:
Smoking is bad for you? Holy shit when did they discover this?

OT: Almost everything is bad for you. I don't get the hate for smoking. Try and enjoy your life a bit for F sake. A friend of mine died at 29 when she just became a mother a month before that. Congenital heart defect. Never smoked a day in her life. Drink, smoke, fall in love, get your heart broken, get kids, see the world, jump out of an airplane (preferably with a parachute). Live your life because even if you don't smoke you can die any second now.

Captcha: dead ringer. Creepy...
Drink, smoke when you are 16, die at 50 from lung cancer or liver failure.

Or don't put poison in your body in excessive amounts (smoking is worse, since it's nothing BUT poison, at least wine or small amounts of alcohol have beneficial effects), live to 80 and see your grandchildren.

I mean, sure, you can die in a car crash tomorrow. But living every day like it is your last will just hasten your death.


edit: Forgot to mention - second hand smoking poisons air and people nearby few times more than the smoker himself.
 

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as someone who has just quit smoking over a month ago now, i think people who smoke should have to pay for their own medical care, and if they are stupid enough not to listen to the facts and not provide their own medi-care then i supose they deserve to die.

Same goes for obese people. People should take care of themselves, if they dont want to they shouldnt expect the state to look after them at tax payers expense, they should take responsibility for their actions.

So yeah, these adverts should be banned, the earth is too poulated anyway.

(from uk where the nhs is all ready under massive strain.)
 
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hooksashands said:
It doesn't even get you high.
This. It's by some distance the most pointless substance to abuse. Cannot for the life of me see what makes people want to try it in the first place - at least other drugs have side effects that kind of entice you.
 

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flarty said:
as someone who has just quit smoking over a month ago now, i think people who smoke should have to pay for their own medical care, and if they are stupid enough not to listen to the facts and not provide their own medi-care then i supose they deserve to die.

Same goes for obese people. People should take care of themselves, if they dont want to they shouldnt expect the state to look after them at tax payers expense, they should take responsibility for their actions.

So yeah, these adverts should be banned, the earth is too poulated anyway.

(from uk where the nhs is all ready under massive strain.)
You forget the fact that quitting smoking is not very easy. What about all the smokers who began smoking before it became widely known that they were bad, but now are too addicted to quit? If laws like that were made they should be made after the generation of smokers, who became addicted without being told of the dangers, die off.

As for obesity, that can be because of genetics. It's not just that simple. Sure, many people become obese because of obsessive eating habits, but sometimes obesity just runs in families.
 

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Shock tactics, worst case scenarios, the blatant fact that most people either don't care or are already trying to quit, yeah these ads are pretty terrible.
 

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Final First said:
flarty said:
as someone who has just quit smoking over a month ago now, i think people who smoke should have to pay for their own medical care, and if they are stupid enough not to listen to the facts and not provide their own medi-care then i supose they deserve to die.

Same goes for obese people. People should take care of themselves, if they dont want to they shouldnt expect the state to look after them at tax payers expense, they should take responsibility for their actions.

So yeah, these adverts should be banned, the earth is too poulated anyway.

(from uk where the nhs is all ready under massive strain.)
You forget the fact that quitting smoking is not very easy. What about all the smokers who began smoking before it became widely known that they were bad, but now are too addicted to quit? If laws like that were made they should be made after the generation of smokers, who became addicted without being told of the dangers, die off.

As for obesity, that can be because of genetics. It's not just that simple. Sure, many people become obese because of obsessive eating habits, but sometimes obesity just runs in families.
Ive just quit after 12 years of smoking. yes its addiction and the first 2 weeks were hell, but after that it was easy. All it takes is a lil effort, and im willing to acccept that some people may find it harder than others then they just simply need to try harder.
As for the people who started smoking before it became accepted that smoking kills then they would be excused from the law.

As for obesity, they should be offered a diet plan (which is easily availible on the internets) nothing more. If they want to eat themselves to death then thats there problem.
 

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Gerishnakov said:
This is a slightly different issue in the UK because of the National Health Service.

People who smoke and end up with debilitating diseases as a result, but have no private health insurance, cost the British taxpayer money.
I'm gonna call you out on this because, to put it bluntly, I'm sick of this claim.

I'll use the 2005-06 date range as an example as these are the first stats that I found on my ever so brief search. Although I researched this a while back and found that things were pretty much the same, except more tax was paid.

So, in 2005-06, smokers cost the NHS £5.2bn. Tax revenue from tobacco sales was £9.8bn.

I'll let you work out the difference. I'll also have to ask how happy you'd be if smoking was banned, therefore adding increased taxes to everything else, seeing as the government wouldn't just let all that income disappear.

Tax revenue is probably the only reason smoking is still legal, seeing as they're trying to ban everything else that's hazardous to our health.

As for me, I smoke. I quit for a year once but actually missed it, so I just started again. I don't plan on lasting long enough to feel the effects anyway.........I like a lot of other things that are hazardous (and sometimes illegal)!!
 

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flarty said:
Final First said:
flarty said:
as someone who has just quit smoking over a month ago now, i think people who smoke should have to pay for their own medical care, and if they are stupid enough not to listen to the facts and not provide their own medi-care then i supose they deserve to die.

Same goes for obese people. People should take care of themselves, if they dont want to they shouldnt expect the state to look after them at tax payers expense, they should take responsibility for their actions.

So yeah, these adverts should be banned, the earth is too poulated anyway.

(from uk where the nhs is all ready under massive strain.)
You forget the fact that quitting smoking is not very easy. What about all the smokers who began smoking before it became widely known that they were bad, but now are too addicted to quit? If laws like that were made they should be made after the generation of smokers, who became addicted without being told of the dangers, die off.

As for obesity, that can be because of genetics. It's not just that simple. Sure, many people become obese because of obsessive eating habits, but sometimes obesity just runs in families.
Ive just quit after 12 years of smoking. yes its addiction and the first 2 weeks were hell, but after that it was easy. All it takes is a lil effort, and im willing to acccept that some people may find it harder than others then they just simply need to try harder.
As for the people who started smoking before it became accepted that smoking kills then they would be excused from the law.

As for obesity, they should be offered a diet plan (which is easily availible on the internets) nothing more. If they want to eat themselves to death then thats there problem.
The thing with obesity though is that it isn't as simple as people don't care. Lifestyles as a whole are on a more sedentary turn because of the world we live in. There is a saying now that obesity used to be a rich man's disease, now it's a poor person's. My friend is a landscape designer. His job consists of walking to the car, driving to the office, sitting in a chair and designing plans for about 8 to 10 hours then walking to the car and driving home. That's his job. There are not a lot of opportunities for fitness, save for his weekends and that isn't much help because in order to do anything the exercise needs to be constant. Not to mention the nutritional value of even quality grown food is on the decline because of the use of pesticides and sprays and organic food is far more expensive.