New "Missing link" for evolution!

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Zirat

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Interesting because when you look at it normally it looks similar to a Lizard of dome dort but the X-Ray makes it look like a primate.

But what really interest me is that why would they want to hide this discovery for 2 years before actually releasing photos of it.
 

H.R.Shovenstuff

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ffxfriek said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
Suck on it, Christians!!!!
im ubberly offended. im catholic and i believe in creationism WITH WITH evolution. why cant they exist together? in peace and harmony bla bla bla
Because one idea is founded on scientific discovery and the other on an invisible sky man who magic'd everything into being.
 

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Really, evolution didnt need a boost. It's been pretty much proved beyond reasonable doubt as the explanation for how everything got here. The evolution of the whale and the horse is remarkably well documented, and the fact that all known life is carbon based, uses left-handed proteins and right-handed sugars and all in all is remarkably similar points to diversification from a single origin.
 

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H.R.Shovenstuff said:
ffxfriek said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
Suck on it, Christians!!!!
im ubberly offended. im catholic and i believe in creationism WITH WITH evolution. why cant they exist together? in peace and harmony bla bla bla
Because one idea is founded on scientific discovery and the other on an invisible sky man who magic'd everything into being.
that is extremely insulting to my religion. keep it clean and to yourself please. you dont see me starting a fight but i take this as a flame on a container of gasoline.

on topic: the skeleton is cool..
 

aww yea

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thats quite obviously a baby alien skeleton that found its way underground

nope no evolution here
 

sharks9

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they found a monkey. yay.
until evolution has been 100% proven, I'll choose to believe in creation.
 

VZLANemesis

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H.R.Shovenstuff said:
ffxfriek said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
Suck on it, Christians!!!!
im ubberly offended. im catholic and i believe in creationism WITH WITH evolution. why cant they exist together? in peace and harmony bla bla bla
Because one idea is founded on scientific discovery and the other on an invisible sky man who magic'd everything into being.
mmm... basically what you said is all biased but yeah. Many christians believe in both things coexisting. The bible isn't meant to be taken literally so yeah, 7 days, maybe not, but how else would you have explained it to people 2000 years ago?
It could have been a way to simplify things for ignorant people, that's what they taught me in school (christian opus-dei funded school ^^) but yeah, I later became kind of an atheist, I'm more of a sciense man, but I do believe that both theories can exist together not the "Intelligent Design" or however it is that US christian fanatics wanna teach it at schools, that is just plain absurd, but that there is a god that created things... that later evolved?

People who don't believe in evolution are just plain blind or ignorant.
 

scotth266

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VZLANemesis said:
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Neato! Well, evolution gets a boost that it drastically needed.
lol? drastically needed?
To my understanding, evolutionary theory was filled with holes, this being one of them. If stuff like this keeps being found, evolution might be accepted as law and not theory. That's what I meant.
 

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VZLANemesis said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
ffxfriek said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
Suck on it, Christians!!!!
im ubberly offended. im catholic and i believe in creationism WITH WITH evolution. why cant they exist together? in peace and harmony bla bla bla
Because one idea is founded on scientific discovery and the other on an invisible sky man who magic'd everything into being.
mmm... basically what you said is all biased but yeah. Many christians believe in both things coexisting. The bible isn't meant to be taken literally so yeah, 7 days, maybe not, but how else would you have explained it to people 2000 years ago?
It could have been a way to simplify things for ignorant people, that's what they taught me in school (christian opus-dei funded school ^^) but yeah, I later became kind of an atheist, I'm more of a sciense man, but I do believe that both theories can exist together not the "Intelligent Design" or however it is that US christian fanatics wanna teach it at schools, that is just plain absurd, but that there is a god that created things... that later evolved?

People who don't believe in evolution are just plain blind or ignorant.
You just summed up ID...
 

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Hurray! Ignorant piece of trash forum goers tearing down strawman religious arguments!

Isn't great that how the Escapists shows how far we've come as a maturing society?
 

VZLANemesis

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scotth266 said:
VZLANemesis said:
scotth266 said:
Neato! Well, evolution gets a boost that it drastically needed.
lol? drastically needed?
To my understanding, evolutionary theory was filled with holes, this being one of them. If stuff like this keeps being found, evolution might be accepted as law and not theory. That's what I meant.
I think you don't quite understand what is needed to differentiate law and theory. In this case "the theory of evolution" it is NOT that it isn't proven nor that it is that it doesn't exist. Instead it is that it is regarded as a process that takes A LOT OF YEARS and very specific conditions in order to happen and therefore cannot be recreated for a "scientific study" to prove it a fact... Do you understand the difference?
The thing would be a fact if it could be recreated. Which it cannot be. How can you recreate an "evolution experiment", selective mating over a couple of hundred years? who would fund that?
 

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H.R.Shovenstuff said:
sharks9 said:
they found a monkey. yay.
until evolution has been 100% proven, I'll choose to believe in creation.
Yeah good call bro! So much more evidence for that.
You don't have to believe it, but I think it's alot more logical to think that someone created the Earth and us then the idea that once upon a time there was nothing, which exploded and made monkeys which apparently decided to be the only species that wanted to evolve enough to become intelligent.
 

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Looks like any normal monkey to me, oh well don't bother pointing out the difference but I don't really want to get into this.

Good for them I guess.
 

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H.R.Shovenstuff said:
VZLANemesis said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
ffxfriek said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
Suck on it, Christians!!!!
im ubberly offended. im catholic and i believe in creationism WITH WITH evolution. why cant they exist together? in peace and harmony bla bla bla
Because one idea is founded on scientific discovery and the other on an invisible sky man who magic'd everything into being.
mmm... basically what you said is all biased but yeah. Many christians believe in both things coexisting. The bible isn't meant to be taken literally so yeah, 7 days, maybe not, but how else would you have explained it to people 2000 years ago?
It could have been a way to simplify things for ignorant people, that's what they taught me in school (christian opus-dei funded school ^^) but yeah, I later became kind of an atheist, I'm more of a sciense man, but I do believe that both theories can exist together not the "Intelligent Design" or however it is that US christian fanatics wanna teach it at schools, that is just plain absurd, but that there is a god that created things... that later evolved?

People who don't believe in evolution are just plain blind or ignorant.
You just summed up ID...
mmm... no? ID says that all things were created at the SAME TIME, that dinosaurs coexisted with men. And that the million species that no longer exist, no longer exist because they became extinct over time. Oh yeah, and that earth is like a couple of thousand years old. Which is fucking absurd.

What was taught to me (as a possibility because they fucking taught us to think by ourselves) was that maybe you know when it says in the bible that first god created light? Light is thought by scientists to have been the first result of the big bang (in form of photons). Get it? Some of what the bible says may be proven scientifically. MAYBE it was a way to teach humanity two thousand years ago a couple of things, by simplifying them. Do I make myself clear?

Edit: how do you think being an ass is gonna affect your credibility in the forums...
Be serious.
 

scotth266

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VZLANemesis said:
scotth266 said:
VZLANemesis said:
scotth266 said:
Neato! Well, evolution gets a boost that it drastically needed.
lol? drastically needed?
To my understanding, evolutionary theory was filled with holes, this being one of them. If stuff like this keeps being found, evolution might be accepted as law and not theory. That's what I meant.
I think you don't quite understand what is needed to differentiate law and theory. In this case "the theory of evolution" it is NOT that it isn't proven nor that it is that it doesn't exist. Instead it is that it is regarded as a process that takes A LOT OF YEARS and very specific conditions in order to happen and therefore cannot be recreated for a "scientific study" to prove it a fact... Do you understand the difference?
The thing would be a fact if it could be recreated. Which it cannot be. How can you recreate an "evolution experiment", selective mating over a couple of hundred years? who would fund that?
Grrr. You seem to have missed the point I was trying to make. It's like gravity: we don't understand much about it, we just accept that it works. Evolution is the same way: it's the only thing we've got, so wouldn't it be good to have more evidence to support it? The missing link was a flaw with evolutionary theory: but now that one has been found, perhaps more will be, and our knowledge of evolution will grow.
 
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VZLANemesis said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
ffxfriek said:
H.R.Shovenstuff said:
Suck on it, Christians!!!!
im ubberly offended. im catholic and i believe in creationism WITH WITH evolution. why cant they exist together? in peace and harmony bla bla bla
Because one idea is founded on scientific discovery and the other on an invisible sky man who magic'd everything into being.
mmm... basically what you said is all biased but yeah. Many christians believe in both things coexisting. The bible isn't meant to be taken literally so yeah, 7 days, maybe not, but how else would you have explained it to people 2000 years ago?
It could have been a way to simplify things for ignorant people, that's what they taught me in school (christian opus-dei funded school ^^) but yeah, I later became kind of an atheist, I'm more of a sciense man, but I do believe that both theories can exist together not the "Intelligent Design" or however it is that US christian fanatics wanna teach it at schools, that is just plain absurd, but that there is a god that created things... that later evolved?
Is there a disclaimer in the bible that says not to take it literally? Secondly, evolution is deeply corrosive to the creationist view. To believe in both is to not take either seriously. Thirdly, he showed absolutely no bias whatsoever.

I look forward to more news on this...would also like to know why they kept it secret for so long.
 

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If it's true then yessssss! Creationists can FINALLY retire.
Wrong.

Certain sects of Creationism will (and should) fall. But since the primary issue in the debate of Creationism vs. Darwinism is where the initial spark of life came from. And since this is just another complex organism's skeletons, it will not kill the Creationist creed.

Nice try, though.