New "Missing link" for evolution!

[VZLANemesis]

Neato! Well, evolution gets a boost that it drastically needed.

lol? drastically needed?

To my understanding, evolutionary theory was filled with holes, this being one of them. If stuff like this keeps being found, evolution might be accepted as law and not theory. That's what I meant.

I think you don't quite understand what is needed to differentiate law and theory. In this case "the theory of evolution" it is NOT that it isn't proven nor that it is that it doesn't exist. Instead it is that it is regarded as a process that takes A LOT OF YEARS and very specific conditions in order to happen and therefore cannot be recreated for a "scientific study" to prove it a fact... Do you understand the difference?
The thing would be a fact if it could be recreated. Which it cannot be. How can you recreate an "evolution experiment", selective mating over a couple of hundred years? who would fund that?

Grrr. You seem to have missed the point I was trying to make. It's like gravity: we don't understand much about it, we just accept that it works. Evolution is the same way: it's the only thing we've got, so wouldn't it be good to have more evidence to support it? The missing link was a flaw with evolutionary theory: but now that one has been found, perhaps more will be, and our knowledge of evolution will grow.

mmmk... That I can kinda agree with. Not quite but yeah.

 

[H.R.Shovenstuff]

Creationists are stupid lal.

 

[iJosh]

Oh oh.

The Illuminati are going to kill them !

Jokes. This is really neat.

 

[VZLANemesis]

Suck on it, Christians!!!!

im ubberly offended. im catholic and i believe in creationism WITH WITH evolution. why cant they exist together? in peace and harmony bla bla bla

Because one idea is founded on scientific discovery and the other on an invisible sky man who magic'd everything into being.

mmm... basically what you said is all biased but yeah. Many christians believe in both things coexisting. The bible isn't meant to be taken literally so yeah, 7 days, maybe not, but how else would you have explained it to people 2000 years ago?
It could have been a way to simplify things for ignorant people, that's what they taught me in school (christian opus-dei funded school ^^) but yeah, I later became kind of an atheist, I'm more of a sciense man, but I do believe that both theories can exist together not the "Intelligent Design" or however it is that US christian fanatics wanna teach it at schools, that is just plain absurd, but that there is a god that created things... that later evolved?

Is there a disclaimer in the bible that says not to take it literally? Secondly, evolution is deeply corrosive to the creationist view. To believe in both is to not take either seriously. Thirdly, he showed absolutely no bias whatsoever.

I look forward to more news on this...would also like to know why they kept it secret for so long.

How is believing in both not to take either seriously? Do your priests ask you to take the bible LITERALLY? because ours were more "actual" in that they did believe in science and of what could be proven. Not believing in evolution is fucking absurd by any means.
No bias? "the other on an invisible sky man who magic'd everything into being."
That doesn't seem to want to make the other argument seem ridiculous and therefore dismiss it in any way now does it?
I believe they "kept the secret" in order to make sure they weren't saying random non-facts around only to then realize that in was in fact a fake or simply a lemur-like animal that exists in the region. Seems pretty logical to me.

 

[Lyndraco]

they found a monkey. yay.
until evolution has been 100% proven, I'll choose to believe in creation.

I would just like to point out that the theory of creation isn't 100% proven, and definitely not tested against the same standards as evolution.
Creationism---in the bible---ok to teach!

Evolution--observation, hypothesis,experiment, repeat experiment, submit for peer review, editor writes back, you revise, retest, resubmit with 10% chance of being published, IF published, other scientists analyze your results for years (hoping to disprove) trying to get inconsistent results, after many years and many trials the scientific community may accept it, becomes a THEORY, acceptable to teach (maybe)

Oh also, there's a good chance they had to wait to publish the photos because of the above process. You don't want to come out too early with your results or you may make inaccurate conclusions and be the laughing stock of the scientific community

 

[Legion]

Hurray! Ignorant piece of trash forum goers tearing down strawman religious arguments!

Isn't great that how the Escapists shows how far we've come as a maturing society?

Indeed.

Isn't it

Creationism: How the first spark of life began

Evolution: How we have such a wide variety of living creatures

Therefore they can both exist in harmony. We just don't have much evidence of creationism yet but it is possible

Of course, but the atheists like to feel superior and condescending.

They fail to realise that it's called the 'Big Bang Theory' and the 'Theory of Evolution'.

It's funny how the people who created these ideas are willing to accept them as fallible and yet the followers don't, talk about blind faith...

 

[JoshasorousRex]

Isn't it

Creationism: How the first spark of life began

Evolution: How we have such a wide variety of living creatures

Therefore they can both exist in harmony. We just don't have much evidence of creationism yet but it is possible

 

[Grimm91]

I'm a bit skeptical, but what ever.

 

[ElephantGuts]

That thing looks awesome.

I want one.

And how fucking lucky are they to find what looks to be an almost perfect skeleton of this thing?

 

[jboking]

It's gonna be funny watching the Church whack out.

The church has had gap theory for a while now...

 

[Matronadena]

nothing I love more, than finding a fossil with good carbon scoring in a way that shows off soft tissue, body features, and hair/feathers etc...

it gives a good detail of the animal as a whole living thing that you just don't get from bones. ( and were it not for that we would never have been able to connect dino's and feathers)

 

[hagaya]

If it's true then yessssss! Creationists can FINALLY retire.

I'm pretty sure they'll never retire...
Most creationist arguments I have heard are either factually wrong, or they just plain deny the evidence for evolution.

EDIT: also, Norwegian scientists found it! Yey for Norway

1. Norway is awesome.
2. Being the Catholic Joysucker I am, evolution doesn't exactly say much against Christianity, its just that some of them might want you to believe it. I won't go into detail because I don't really think I could hold this argument up, but I believe in God and evolution at the same time if to sound a bit hypocritical.

 

[sharks9]

they found a monkey. yay.
until evolution has been 100% proven, I'll choose to believe in creation.

I would just like to point out that the theory of creation isn't 100% proven, and definitely not tested against the same standards as evolution.
Creationism---in the bible---ok to teach!

Evolution--observation, hypothesis,experiment, repeat experiment, submit for peer review, editor writes back, you revise, retest, resubmit with 10% chance of being published, IF published, other scientists analyze your results for years (hoping to disprove) trying to get inconsistent results, after many years and many trials the scientific community may accept it, becomes a THEORY, acceptable to teach (maybe)

Oh also, there's a good chance they had to wait to publish the photos because of the above process. You don't want to come out too early with your results or you may make inaccurate conclusions and be the laughing stock of the scientific community

I'm not saying it is, it can only be proven when the existence of God is proven.

Well I think they have alot different standards because evolution is alot newer then the Bible and to believe in Creation all you need is faith, to believe in Evolution you need facts.

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

If it's true then yessssss! Creationists can FINALLY retire.

Indeed, but if they do that, who can we argue with?

 

[Internet Kraken]

Interesting, we found a crucial piece of evidence in establishing the links between us and other species.

Instead of discussing what advances this could have in the fields of science, let's instead bash creationists. How dare they think differently.

 

[fenrizz]

If it's true then yessssss! Creationists can FINALLY retire.

I'm pretty sure they'll never retire...
Most creationist arguments I have heard are either factually wrong, or they just plain deny the evidence for evolution.

EDIT: also, Norwegian scientists found it! Yey for Norway

1. Norway is awesome.
2. Being the Catholic Joysucker I am, evolution doesn't exactly say much against Christianity, its just that some of them might want you to believe it. I won't go into detail because I don't really think I could hold this argument up, but I believe in God and evolution at the same time if to sound a bit hypocritical.

It doesn't make you sound like a hypocrite in my opinion.
Who is to say that evolution is not God's tool?
Not that i believe in god, but science and religion do not have to be opposites!

I'm not saying it is, it can only be proven when the existence of God is proven.

Well I think they have alot different standards because evolution is alot newer then the Bible and to believe in Creation all you need is faith, to believe in Evolution you need facts.

I'm sorry, but are you really saying that you believe in creation because then you don't need facts?

And also, you can never prove or disprove the excistence of god.

 

[Matronadena]

Cuuuuuute!

Ok, seriously, this is pretty interesting. What was it encased in that preserved it so well?

she lived in a sub tropical forest, which had a massive volcanic lake, in which she was possibly overcome by toxic fumes, fell in the lake and drowned, some of the best fossils are preserved that way...we get " dino-mummies" in similar situations too...which is a tough possess because the body needs to be covered by sediment FAST.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

Hurray! Ignorant piece of trash forum goers tearing down strawman religious arguments!

Isn't great that how the Escapists shows how far we've come as a maturing society?

Indeed.

Isn't it

Creationism: How the first spark of life began

Evolution: How we have such a wide variety of living creatures

Therefore they can both exist in harmony. We just don't have much evidence of creationism yet but it is possible

Of course, but the atheists like to feel superior and condescending.

They fail to realise that it's called the 'Big Bang Theory' and the 'Theory of Evolution'.

It's funny how the people who created these ideas are willing to accept them as fallible and yet the followers don't, talk about blind faith...

You obviously can't even gasp the concept of what the fuck a theory means. Theists always like to point out how they are all theories. Well then, gravity is JUST a theory, relativity is JUST A THEORY. EVERYTHING is just a theory, but that in no way undermines their credibility. SURE, they have flaws, they are not perfect and they will probably never BE perfect, but THAT'S THE EXACT POINT OF SCIENCE. A THEORY MUST have mistakes, without mistakes that theory is WRONG. You need mistakes in order to PERFECT that theory.

Theories will always have flaws, but THAT'S A GOOD THING, disproving other peoples theories IS CONSIDERED A GOOD THING in science. It's actually WANTED. If every single theory we have today can be disproved then HORRAY! Why Horray? Because we can now focus on finding other shit that can explain that shit. It's all about making mistakes and correcting them. But you can't seem to understand that can you.

Every single Theory is backed up by EVIDENCE, you know that little thing where shit is provided to show the claims are TRUE. They didn't reach the status of THEORY just over night when one scientists who was so drunk decided he wanted to give em those status. When a hipothesis is bough to the table it will be brutalized and smacked 24/7, can't be disproven? It's correct. It has Flaws? Goody! We can correct them.

 

[jboking]

they found a monkey. yay.
until evolution has been 100% proven, I'll choose to believe in creation.

I would just like to point out that the theory of creation isn't 100% proven, and definitely not tested against the same standards as evolution.
Creationism---in the bible---ok to teach!

Evolution--observation, hypothesis,experiment, repeat experiment, submit for peer review, editor writes back, you revise, retest, resubmit with 10% chance of being published, IF published, other scientists analyze your results for years (hoping to disprove) trying to get inconsistent results, after many years and many trials the scientific community may accept it, becomes a THEORY, acceptable to teach (maybe)

Macro evolution(evolution between above the level so species) and Creationism are in the same boat when it comes to teaching them for one serious reason. Neither is provable or testable. Micro evolution(evolution within a species over a few generations) is provable and is taught in most High School Biology courses as well as some philosophy courses.

 

[Avida]

Why did we have to lose those awesome tails, Bad evolution, BAD!