New Vegas: Enclave What Now?

[slipknot4]

Perhaps it's not an impossibility but... I would just wait and see, not that I'm going to buy the game in question. From the looks of it. Obsidian screwed up big time on this one.

 

[walls of cetepedes]

All of the Enclave that wanted to be the Enclave (y'know, take back the country from the fugging mutants! Enclave) are all one hundred percent, no exceptions, no way about it, all dead. They all went to the East coast and DIED.

There is no more Enclave. They've all been absorbed by NCR or are part of other factions. No Enclave at all.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

Enclave Eyebot

Stop right there.

It's not an Enclave Eyebot. It's an Eyebot.

If you had played Fallout or Fallout 2, you'd know that the Eyebot is a pre-war model that is NOT Enclave in origin. Places like the Los Angles Vault under the Master's control, or the sealed Sierra Army Depot have stacks of floating eyes just sitting around.

Probably not, the story revolves around some sort of civil war between the New Californian Republic and Brootherhood of Steal.

The Brotherhood of Steel will not play a part in New Vegas (as they rightfully shouldn't.)

The game revolves around NCR and a new faction called Caesar's Legion.

Too right, it just wouldn't be Fallout without The Enclave to beat up.

Y'know, there's this awesome game called Fallout 1, where there isn't an over-used bad faction.

I thought the Enclave were being left out of this one. It doesn't have to be an Enclave eyebot.

They are. Thank you for being sane. ^_^

 

[scnj]

The Enclave are going to be there because it's a Fallout game and they're always there, and the bumper sticker is a gag.

Probably not, the story revolves around some sort of civil war between the New Californian Republic and Brootherhood of Steal. (The N.C.R. was formed at the end of Fallout 2, and the Brother Hood was allies but not part of them, why they would fight is beyond me)

Because things change*. Leaders die and are replaced, and when they're replaced, rules change and things are run differently. Maybe the Brotherhood had a change in leader, or the NCR. Maybe both. Until we play the game we'll have no idea.

*Except war. War never changes.

 

[conflictofinterests]

Doesn't look Enclave to me, the Enclave don't personalise their stuff.

not exactly hard to slap a sticker on a bypassing eyebot ^^

VANDALISM MECHANIC IN THE NEW FALLOUT!

Totally maxing out stealth and putting stupid bumper stickers on the rears of ever last Enclave officer.

 

[ShakesZX]

Enclave Eyebot

Stop right there.

It's not an Enclave Eyebot. It's an Eyebot.

If you had played Fallout or Fallout 2, you'd know that the Eyebot is a pre-war model that is NOT Enclave in origin. Places like the Los Angles Vault under the Master's control, or the sealed Sierra Army Depot have stacks of floating eyes just sitting around.

I'm sorry, but you're way off:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Eyebot

Quote: "This robot appears only in Fallout 3."
"Eyebots are used by the Enclave on the East Coast for broadcasting Enclave Radio, which consists of propaganda, presidential speeches, and patriotic marching music for the people of the Capital Wasteland. "

OP: I do believe that the Enclave will return in one form or another, albeit in an extremely suppressed form from previous encounters, due to East and West Coast problems in 3&2.

 

[starhaven]

It completely blew past me until my roomie pointed it out...the new F:NV trailer opens on an Enclave Eyebot sailing down the highway, with a bumper sticker which reads "My Child is an Honor Student at Roosevelt Academy".

Roosevelt Academy's part of the D.C. Wasteland, this is three years after FO3's events, and with the destruction of their main D.C.-area bases, it makes sense that the Enclave's East-Coast remnants would want to regroup with whatever part is still out West. And with Vegas being the last significant city on the continent...yet, not a scrap of info on the Enclave being in the game seems to exist, aside from that Eyebot appearance.

I consider that it MIGHT just be something cute thrown in as a gag, but you never can tell...so, thoughts?

it has only blown up if you made the computer go mad

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

I'm sorry, but you're way off:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Eyebot

Quote: "This robot appears only in Fallout 3."
"Eyebots are used by the Enclave on the East Coast for broadcasting Enclave Radio, which consists of propaganda, presidential speeches, and patriotic marching music for the people of the Capital Wasteland. "

OP: I do believe that the Enclave will return in one form or another, albeit in an extremely suppressed form from previous encounters, due to East and West Coast problems in 3&2.

Don't you link me to my own website.

The specific model of eyebot seen in Fallout 3 is unique to the Enclave, yes, but the modular design of the eyebot in the trailer is based on the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Floating_Eye robot seen in Fallout and Fallout 2. The only reason that the eyebot is NOT a floating eye in its entirety is because Bethesda is pulling all of the art direction strings for New Vegas. It's been confirmed that the Enclave won't appear, anyway.

 

[conflictofinterests]

Enclave Eyebot

Stop right there.

It's not an Enclave Eyebot. It's an Eyebot.

If you had played Fallout or Fallout 2, you'd know that the Eyebot is a pre-war model that is NOT Enclave in origin. Places like the Los Angles Vault under the Master's control, or the sealed Sierra Army Depot have stacks of floating eyes just sitting around.

I'm sorry, but you're way off:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Eyebot

Quote: "This robot appears only in Fallout 3."
"Eyebots are used by the Enclave on the East Coast for broadcasting Enclave Radio, which consists of propaganda, presidential speeches, and patriotic marching music for the people of the Capital Wasteland. "

OP: I do believe that the Enclave will return in one form or another, albeit in an extremely suppressed form from previous encounters, due to East and West Coast problems in 3&2.

Wh- What about the Floating Eyes link at the top of the page? For the previous fallout games...?

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

Wh- What about the Floating Eyes link at the top of the page? For the previous fallout games...?

Exactly. Thank you.

 

[LordWalter]

It completely blew past me until my roomie pointed it out...the new F:NV trailer opens on an Enclave Eyebot sailing down the highway, with a bumper sticker which reads "My Child is an Honor Student at Roosevelt Academy".

Roosevelt Academy's part of the D.C. Wasteland, this is three years after FO3's events, and with the destruction of their main D.C.-area bases, it makes sense that the Enclave's East-Coast remnants would want to regroup with whatever part is still out West. And with Vegas being the last significant city on the continent...yet, not a scrap of info on the Enclave being in the game seems to exist, aside from that Eyebot appearance.

I consider that it MIGHT just be something cute thrown in as a gag, but you never can tell...so, thoughts?

The Enclave is, for all intents and purposes, quite dead. They are entirely supplanted by the New California Republic, Caesar's Legion, and The Brotherhood of Steel in terms of both influence and military power. The last of the Enclave died after the East-Coast debacle. In fact, you could argue (and it has been argued, on the vault wiki among other places) that the Brotherhood of Steel east-coast division under Elder Lyons is more powerful than the west coast division because they have all the Enclave tech and plenty of recruits.

Though keep in mind the ethos of the Eastern coast BoS is different than the Western coast BoS, as the western coast BoS resembles the east coast "Outcast" faction.

I really don't know who I want to side with more: NCR or the BoS. It's a difficult question. I intend to help them both but considering they're antagonistic towards one another I get the feeling I'll need to choose.

(Fuck Caesar's Legion. Those Slaver scum shall die BY MY HAND! GRAAAAAH! lawl.)

 

[starhaven]

the president and the encalve base are only gone if u blew them up i personaly didnt i joined them

 

[Omegatronacles]

Enclave Eyebot

Stop right there.

It's not an Enclave Eyebot. It's an Eyebot.

If you had played Fallout or Fallout 2, you'd know that the Eyebot is a pre-war model that is NOT Enclave in origin. Places like the Los Angles Vault under the Master's control, or the sealed Sierra Army Depot have stacks of floating eyes just sitting around.

I'm sorry, but you're way off:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Eyebot

Quote: "This robot appears only in Fallout 3."
"Eyebots are used by the Enclave on the East Coast for broadcasting Enclave Radio, which consists of propaganda, presidential speeches, and patriotic marching music for the people of the Capital Wasteland. "

OP: I do believe that the Enclave will return in one form or another, albeit in an extremely suppressed form from previous encounters, due to East and West Coast problems in 3&2.

And if you had read the first part of the article, you would have seen the link where it states that the eyebot was similar to the Floating Eye [http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Floating_Eye]. You know, the "eyebots" from Fallout 1 & 2?

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

the president and the encalve base are only gone if u blew them up i personaly didnt i joined them

In the events of Broken Steel, it's revealed that Liberty Prime destroyed the Enclave headquarters at Raven Rock while you were unconscious.

 

[Canid117]

They might still exist but the brotherhood of steel is probably bigger and stronger now. Having gained access to all their technology, records, and research in Fallout 3. This is probably the last bit of the Enclave holding out in the central part of the country.

 

[Joe Matsuda]

Like many have said before

the Enclave will be there

its just how they roll

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

but the brotherhood of steel is probably bigger and stronger now. Having gained access to all their technology, records, and research in Fallout 3.

The Brotherhood is also in decline; they lost a war against NCR after destroying Redding's gold deposits, which were what backed the NCR currency.

Like many have said before

the Enclave will be there

its just how they roll

Uh, no. Read the entire thread before posting. The Enclave will not appear.

 

[spectrenihlus]

I'm sure there will be some enclave activity in NV. They are just too cool of a bad guy to throw away.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

They are just too cool of a bad guy to throw away.

After two games, they're going to bring back the exact same antagonist?

Why not make something creative instead? Like, I dunno, the Legion?