New Vegas Factions

[BlumiereBleck]

The Legion is unquestionably violent and cruel. They maim and booby-trap enemies, actively practice slavery and they also betray their allies murder or enslave most of the tribes.

And taking the ears off of corpses is a perfectly acceptable act? What about Mean Sonofabitch in Westside, who was tortured just because he was a super mutant? What about Norton and his mercs, who're attacking Jacobstown because NCR ordered them to?

Plus, if you talk to Antony in the Fort, he'll mention that he used to be a member of the Hangdogs, who were one of two tribes (the other being the Twisted Hairs) to stand against the Legion. Both his account and the Great Khan ending mention that, while they're pretty much forced to accept the Legion culture, they still get to keep their old culture around so it serves the Legion. (Unlike NCR, which would much rather wipe out the Khans like they did to the Vipers and Jackals.)

And on the point of Bitter Springs, that may have been a legitimate accident and genuine mis-communication. Camp Searchlight, on the other hand, was a deliberate act.

Everyone who mentions Bitter Springs (Manny and Boone in Novac, the Great Khans, Sgt. Bitter-Root and Cpl. Sterling at McCarran) says that it was terrible AND that it was planned. NCR had cavalry (All Roads) and snipers (1st Recon) prepared to exterminate the camp.

So suddenly the great khans are the victims? They are nothing more than raiders, just like they were in fallout 1. They attacked shady sands (NCR capitol) and they have been known for rape, and cheating (the brass knuckles and metal armor in a hand to hand fight). The wasteland would be better off without them. They are barbarians, and NOTHING more. That goes to the vipers and the jackals as well, petty street gangs that done nothing but cause grief.

NCR is a culture that allows everyone to join their ranks. Ghouls, humans, and super mutants are known members of NCR ranks. You even find them in NCR territory in fallout 2. There is also no sexism there. Sure you have corruption (which is inescapable) but you have to admit that a clean slate is a HELL of a lot better than another dark ages. The legion doesn't like technology very much, would disregard medical science, would create a cult to Caesar. I don't have to tell you that on the escapist, religion is hated here. Nor would i have to tell you the idea of a second dark age followed by a heavily religious following of ONE man who calls himself the "son of mars" (roman religion) would be down right vilified here.

You think they are non violent to themselves? Think again, the vault wiki clearly states that they practice cannibalism, kill anyone who isn't a "soldier" (to enforce eugenics of a master race of soldiers), among a host of other war crimes.

The legion taking over would be the worst thing to happen to humanity since the great plague.

Ummm they never disregarded science and medicine.

Yes they do. Their culture admires strength and power. Painkillers, medicine, or any sort of weakness is immediately dealt with by death. science is plain laughed at for being synonymous with weaklings who rely on it rather than brute force. basically they follow the frat boy mentality "if it aint got muscles its weak".

did you even do Legion Quests?

No, my sources are the vault.

just play the game and do the quests instead of listening to that ncr biased website

Really? Because the vault talks about their entire culture and structure even before new vegas was even a thought. Its biased to the older fallouts, but not to factions.

go to any Legion/NCR quest page. how much is for NCR and How much is for Legion? try I Put A Spell on You. Theres a major bug for Legion faction that prevents the quest from completing, the "community" seems more occupied with ncr part then keeping it even.

Funny, maybe its because the NCR has more land and just more quests. Most of Legion territory cant be reached in New vegas.

i dont believe you get what im saying... The website is biased...try the questline for yourself and then comment back

 

[Mike Laserbeam]

I played all of them, to see how they turned out (and to get those achievements!) but I was always originally on the side of House. Right from the beginning he seemed to me like the best choice for reasons I can't quite put into words.

I ruled out NCR instantly, I have never liked them despite how "good" they seem to come across in New Vegas. After some of the very questionable actions they take in Fallout 2 (several of which depend on how you finish the game, still I consider them canon) I consider them probably my least favourite faction in any Fallout game... ever?

Spoiler

A good example of this that I can remember was how they treated the inhabitants of Vault City in the ending of Fallout 2 that I can remember, it wasn't how I'd imagine "The people's republic"

Caesar's also never appealed at all, I suppose that's not surprising seeing as how difficult it actually is to get involved with them in NV without alienating any other factions - I like to play it neutral right until the end, just about every Legion quest pisses SOMEBODY off! Also they are very much portrayed as "The Baddies", I just couldn't get behind them, no matter how much I like the Roman empire!

Then there's... Myself. I'm not fit to lead! And it seemed boring.

The Brotherhood has always been my favourite Fallout faction, no matter what they do they're the good guys, I can't see them any other way. I just wish there was some way to help them take over...


^That's longer than I thought it would be, I hope I kept it as spoiler-free as possible, it's hard to tell what's considered a spoiler or not when Obsidian basically told everybody all of the things you could choose before the game even came out...

 

[BlumiereBleck]

The Legion is unquestionably violent and cruel. They maim and booby-trap enemies, actively practice slavery and they also betray their allies murder or enslave most of the tribes.

And taking the ears off of corpses is a perfectly acceptable act? What about Mean Sonofabitch in Westside, who was tortured just because he was a super mutant? What about Norton and his mercs, who're attacking Jacobstown because NCR ordered them to?

Plus, if you talk to Antony in the Fort, he'll mention that he used to be a member of the Hangdogs, who were one of two tribes (the other being the Twisted Hairs) to stand against the Legion. Both his account and the Great Khan ending mention that, while they're pretty much forced to accept the Legion culture, they still get to keep their old culture around so it serves the Legion. (Unlike NCR, which would much rather wipe out the Khans like they did to the Vipers and Jackals.)

And on the point of Bitter Springs, that may have been a legitimate accident and genuine mis-communication. Camp Searchlight, on the other hand, was a deliberate act.

Everyone who mentions Bitter Springs (Manny and Boone in Novac, the Great Khans, Sgt. Bitter-Root and Cpl. Sterling at McCarran) says that it was terrible AND that it was planned. NCR had cavalry (All Roads) and snipers (1st Recon) prepared to exterminate the camp.

So suddenly the great khans are the victims? They are nothing more than raiders, just like they were in fallout 1. They attacked shady sands (NCR capitol) and they have been known for rape, and cheating (the brass knuckles and metal armor in a hand to hand fight). The wasteland would be better off without them. They are barbarians, and NOTHING more. That goes to the vipers and the jackals as well, petty street gangs that done nothing but cause grief.

NCR is a culture that allows everyone to join their ranks. Ghouls, humans, and super mutants are known members of NCR ranks. You even find them in NCR territory in fallout 2. There is also no sexism there. Sure you have corruption (which is inescapable) but you have to admit that a clean slate is a HELL of a lot better than another dark ages. The legion doesn't like technology very much, would disregard medical science, would create a cult to Caesar. I don't have to tell you that on the escapist, religion is hated here. Nor would i have to tell you the idea of a second dark age followed by a heavily religious following of ONE man who calls himself the "son of mars" (roman religion) would be down right vilified here.

You think they are non violent to themselves? Think again, the vault wiki clearly states that they practice cannibalism, kill anyone who isn't a "soldier" (to enforce eugenics of a master race of soldiers), among a host of other war crimes.

The legion taking over would be the worst thing to happen to humanity since the great plague.

Ummm they never disregarded science and medicine.

Yes they do. Their culture admires strength and power. Painkillers, medicine, or any sort of weakness is immediately dealt with by death. science is plain laughed at for being synonymous with weaklings who rely on it rather than brute force. basically they follow the frat boy mentality "if it aint got muscles its weak".

did you even do Legion Quests?

No, my sources are the vault.

just play the game and do the quests instead of listening to that ncr biased website

Really? Because the vault talks about their entire culture and structure even before new vegas was even a thought. Its biased to the older fallouts, but not to factions.

go to any Legion/NCR quest page. how much is for NCR and How much is for Legion? try I Put A Spell on You. Theres a major bug for Legion faction that prevents the quest from completing, the "community" seems more occupied with ncr part then keeping it even.

Funny, maybe its because the NCR has more land and just more quests. Most of Legion territory cant be reached in New vegas.

i dont believe you get what im saying... The website is biased...try the questline for yourself and then comment back

How the hell is a site biased? Just because the legion doesn't get much coverage doesn't mean the vault is a smear site for the legion. I don't need to do the questline as i seen and read enough of the legion. I even seen the ending and what the legion has in store. The legion is a horrible choice and a step backwards to the time where barbianism is king. If you want i will even go as far to quote how many people went for what ending.

yeah its not like

Spoiler

the Legion supports the Followers after their takeover. defeat all powdergangers, restore order. and rule peacefully of over New Vegas

look it up

 

[IronDefender410]

The NCR seemed good at first, but then there's the corruption and the whole "can't protect their own borders" thing. Caesar's Legion sounded cool at first but Caesar seemed like the kind of guy who would kill you if you didn't give him your juice box at lunch. Then Mr.House tried to get me on his side, but he didn't feel right for being the De Facto ruler of New Vegas. But then I meet Yes Man. I love that guy. He helped me take control, let me keep my BoS buddies, and always wanted what I wanted. So I upgraded the Securitrons, painted the Hoover Dam red with blood, and sent The NCR and The Legion (can't belong to Caesar now, seeing as I killed him) back to the seperate hellholes from whence they came.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

The Legion is unquestionably violent and cruel. They maim and booby-trap enemies, actively practice slavery and they also betray their allies murder or enslave most of the tribes.

And taking the ears off of corpses is a perfectly acceptable act? What about Mean Sonofabitch in Westside, who was tortured just because he was a super mutant? What about Norton and his mercs, who're attacking Jacobstown because NCR ordered them to?

Plus, if you talk to Antony in the Fort, he'll mention that he used to be a member of the Hangdogs, who were one of two tribes (the other being the Twisted Hairs) to stand against the Legion. Both his account and the Great Khan ending mention that, while they're pretty much forced to accept the Legion culture, they still get to keep their old culture around so it serves the Legion. (Unlike NCR, which would much rather wipe out the Khans like they did to the Vipers and Jackals.)

And on the point of Bitter Springs, that may have been a legitimate accident and genuine mis-communication. Camp Searchlight, on the other hand, was a deliberate act.

Everyone who mentions Bitter Springs (Manny and Boone in Novac, the Great Khans, Sgt. Bitter-Root and Cpl. Sterling at McCarran) says that it was terrible AND that it was planned. NCR had cavalry (All Roads) and snipers (1st Recon) prepared to exterminate the camp.

So suddenly the great khans are the victims? They are nothing more than raiders, just like they were in fallout 1. They attacked shady sands (NCR capitol) and they have been known for rape, and cheating (the brass knuckles and metal armor in a hand to hand fight). The wasteland would be better off without them. They are barbarians, and NOTHING more. That goes to the vipers and the jackals as well, petty street gangs that done nothing but cause grief.

NCR is a culture that allows everyone to join their ranks. Ghouls, humans, and super mutants are known members of NCR ranks. You even find them in NCR territory in fallout 2. There is also no sexism there. Sure you have corruption (which is inescapable) but you have to admit that a clean slate is a HELL of a lot better than another dark ages. The legion doesn't like technology very much, would disregard medical science, would create a cult to Caesar. I don't have to tell you that on the escapist, religion is hated here. Nor would i have to tell you the idea of a second dark age followed by a heavily religious following of ONE man who calls himself the "son of mars" (roman religion) would be down right vilified here.

You think they are non violent to themselves? Think again, the vault wiki clearly states that they practice cannibalism, kill anyone who isn't a "soldier" (to enforce eugenics of a master race of soldiers), among a host of other war crimes.

The legion taking over would be the worst thing to happen to humanity since the great plague.

Ummm they never disregarded science and medicine.

Yes they do. Their culture admires strength and power. Painkillers, medicine, or any sort of weakness is immediately dealt with by death. science is plain laughed at for being synonymous with weaklings who rely on it rather than brute force. basically they follow the frat boy mentality "if it aint got muscles its weak".

did you even do Legion Quests?

No, my sources are the vault.

just play the game and do the quests instead of listening to that ncr biased website

Really? Because the vault talks about their entire culture and structure even before new vegas was even a thought. Its biased to the older fallouts, but not to factions.

go to any Legion/NCR quest page. how much is for NCR and How much is for Legion? try I Put A Spell on You. Theres a major bug for Legion faction that prevents the quest from completing, the "community" seems more occupied with ncr part then keeping it even.

Funny, maybe its because the NCR has more land and just more quests. Most of Legion territory cant be reached in New vegas.

i dont believe you get what im saying... The website is biased...try the questline for yourself and then comment back

How the hell is a site biased? Just because the legion doesn't get much coverage doesn't mean the vault is a smear site for the legion. I don't need to do the questline as i seen and read enough of the legion. I even seen the ending and what the legion has in store. The legion is a horrible choice and a step backwards to the time where barbianism is king. If you want i will even go as far to quote how many people went for what ending.

yeah its not like

Spoiler

the Legion supports the Followers after their takeover. defeat all powdergangers, restore order. and rule peacefully of over New Vegas

look it up

Oh yeah? that is not what the ending says.

Spoiler

The followers were slaughtered by the legion, creating a entire region devoted to suffering at the hands of the legion.

Legate is not Caesar. once again look it up

 

[Ih8pkmn]

Viva la Revelucion! Independent Vegas FTW, Baby!

 

[Misterian]

In my first playthrough, I wanted to go for Independent Vegas.

But after I met Mr. House, I figured he wanted to keep the Vegas Strip that way he made it, which seemed pretty cool to me.

Also, Mr. House gave me a presidential suite, which I thought was sweet! pun intended.

So I decided to side with him to be grateful.

In my current, and second playthrough, however, I deicded to join the NCR.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

The Legion is unquestionably violent and cruel. They maim and booby-trap enemies, actively practice slavery and they also betray their allies murder or enslave most of the tribes.

And taking the ears off of corpses is a perfectly acceptable act? What about Mean Sonofabitch in Westside, who was tortured just because he was a super mutant? What about Norton and his mercs, who're attacking Jacobstown because NCR ordered them to?

Plus, if you talk to Antony in the Fort, he'll mention that he used to be a member of the Hangdogs, who were one of two tribes (the other being the Twisted Hairs) to stand against the Legion. Both his account and the Great Khan ending mention that, while they're pretty much forced to accept the Legion culture, they still get to keep their old culture around so it serves the Legion. (Unlike NCR, which would much rather wipe out the Khans like they did to the Vipers and Jackals.)

And on the point of Bitter Springs, that may have been a legitimate accident and genuine mis-communication. Camp Searchlight, on the other hand, was a deliberate act.

Everyone who mentions Bitter Springs (Manny and Boone in Novac, the Great Khans, Sgt. Bitter-Root and Cpl. Sterling at McCarran) says that it was terrible AND that it was planned. NCR had cavalry (All Roads) and snipers (1st Recon) prepared to exterminate the camp.

So suddenly the great khans are the victims? They are nothing more than raiders, just like they were in fallout 1. They attacked shady sands (NCR capitol) and they have been known for rape, and cheating (the brass knuckles and metal armor in a hand to hand fight). The wasteland would be better off without them. They are barbarians, and NOTHING more. That goes to the vipers and the jackals as well, petty street gangs that done nothing but cause grief.

NCR is a culture that allows everyone to join their ranks. Ghouls, humans, and super mutants are known members of NCR ranks. You even find them in NCR territory in fallout 2. There is also no sexism there. Sure you have corruption (which is inescapable) but you have to admit that a clean slate is a HELL of a lot better than another dark ages. The legion doesn't like technology very much, would disregard medical science, would create a cult to Caesar. I don't have to tell you that on the escapist, religion is hated here. Nor would i have to tell you the idea of a second dark age followed by a heavily religious following of ONE man who calls himself the "son of mars" (roman religion) would be down right vilified here.

You think they are non violent to themselves? Think again, the vault wiki clearly states that they practice cannibalism, kill anyone who isn't a "soldier" (to enforce eugenics of a master race of soldiers), among a host of other war crimes.

The legion taking over would be the worst thing to happen to humanity since the great plague.

Ummm they never disregarded science and medicine.

Yes they do. Their culture admires strength and power. Painkillers, medicine, or any sort of weakness is immediately dealt with by death. science is plain laughed at for being synonymous with weaklings who rely on it rather than brute force. basically they follow the frat boy mentality "if it aint got muscles its weak".

did you even do Legion Quests?

No, my sources are the vault.

just play the game and do the quests instead of listening to that ncr biased website

Really? Because the vault talks about their entire culture and structure even before new vegas was even a thought. Its biased to the older fallouts, but not to factions.

go to any Legion/NCR quest page. how much is for NCR and How much is for Legion? try I Put A Spell on You. Theres a major bug for Legion faction that prevents the quest from completing, the "community" seems more occupied with ncr part then keeping it even.

Funny, maybe its because the NCR has more land and just more quests. Most of Legion territory cant be reached in New vegas.

i dont believe you get what im saying... The website is biased...try the questline for yourself and then comment back

How the hell is a site biased? Just because the legion doesn't get much coverage doesn't mean the vault is a smear site for the legion. I don't need to do the questline as i seen and read enough of the legion. I even seen the ending and what the legion has in store. The legion is a horrible choice and a step backwards to the time where barbianism is king. If you want i will even go as far to quote how many people went for what ending.

yeah its not like

Spoiler

the Legion supports the Followers after their takeover. defeat all powdergangers, restore order. and rule peacefully of over New Vegas

look it up

Oh yeah? that is not what the ending says.

Spoiler

The followers were slaughtered by the legion, creating a entire region devoted to suffering at the hands of the legion.

Legate is not Caesar. once again look it up

Oh yeah? Caesar's legion is Caesar's legion.

Spoiler

The only ending for the legion is the same, most were enslaved or killed and the rest lived under the legion's boot. That isn't peace, that is tyranny.

Caesar entered The Strip as though it was his Triumph. The Legion pushed the NCR out of New Vegas entirely, driving them back to the Mojave Outpost. The Legion occupied all major locations, enslaving much of the population and peacefully lording over the rest. Under the Legion's banner, civilization - unforgiving as it was - finally came to the Mojave wasteland.

Enslavement is not peace, nor is it good for anyone.

sure beats a new enclave ruling with corruption and killing civilians.

 

[amyous]

No gods. No masters.

House wanted me to blow up Brotherhood
No.
NCR wanted me to blow up Brotherhood
No.
Legion is a bunch of sexiest slavers
Hell No.
Alright YesMan. Let's do it

Identical reasoning to my own. Yes man was rude when I told him I was going to leave the brotherhood alone, but at least he didn't refuse to work with me After that.

 

[Tomo Stryker]

No gods. No masters.

House wanted me to blow up Brotherhood
No.
NCR wanted me to blow up Brotherhood
No.
Legion is a bunch of sexiest slavers
Hell No.
Alright YesMan. Let's do it

Sexiest Slavers? Sexier than what? Oh, when you side with the NCR you can get the Brotherhood to side with them after you do both "In The Dark" and "Eyesight to the Blind/Mind to your own".

Oh I know but they give you negative rep for it. Plus how do I know they won't shoot them in the back when i'm not looking?

It says in the ending narration that the Brotherhood patrols highway I-95 and the 188 once the NCR hands over all salvaged power armor suits. Also the NCR rep lost after you get after you recruit the Brotherhood doesn't even put a dent in it if you were idolized. And the two have continued peace for many decades to follow.

 

[VanityGirl]

NRC were the best choice in my eyes. I went with them because the legion just seemed like douches in general. When I play through as an evil butthole, I will join the legion.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

The Legion is unquestionably violent and cruel. They maim and booby-trap enemies, actively practice slavery and they also betray their allies murder or enslave most of the tribes.

And taking the ears off of corpses is a perfectly acceptable act? What about Mean Sonofabitch in Westside, who was tortured just because he was a super mutant? What about Norton and his mercs, who're attacking Jacobstown because NCR ordered them to?

Plus, if you talk to Antony in the Fort, he'll mention that he used to be a member of the Hangdogs, who were one of two tribes (the other being the Twisted Hairs) to stand against the Legion. Both his account and the Great Khan ending mention that, while they're pretty much forced to accept the Legion culture, they still get to keep their old culture around so it serves the Legion. (Unlike NCR, which would much rather wipe out the Khans like they did to the Vipers and Jackals.)

And on the point of Bitter Springs, that may have been a legitimate accident and genuine mis-communication. Camp Searchlight, on the other hand, was a deliberate act.

Everyone who mentions Bitter Springs (Manny and Boone in Novac, the Great Khans, Sgt. Bitter-Root and Cpl. Sterling at McCarran) says that it was terrible AND that it was planned. NCR had cavalry (All Roads) and snipers (1st Recon) prepared to exterminate the camp.

So suddenly the great khans are the victims? They are nothing more than raiders, just like they were in fallout 1. They attacked shady sands (NCR capitol) and they have been known for rape, and cheating (the brass knuckles and metal armor in a hand to hand fight). The wasteland would be better off without them. They are barbarians, and NOTHING more. That goes to the vipers and the jackals as well, petty street gangs that done nothing but cause grief.

NCR is a culture that allows everyone to join their ranks. Ghouls, humans, and super mutants are known members of NCR ranks. You even find them in NCR territory in fallout 2. There is also no sexism there. Sure you have corruption (which is inescapable) but you have to admit that a clean slate is a HELL of a lot better than another dark ages. The legion doesn't like technology very much, would disregard medical science, would create a cult to Caesar. I don't have to tell you that on the escapist, religion is hated here. Nor would i have to tell you the idea of a second dark age followed by a heavily religious following of ONE man who calls himself the "son of mars" (roman religion) would be down right vilified here.

You think they are non violent to themselves? Think again, the vault wiki clearly states that they practice cannibalism, kill anyone who isn't a "soldier" (to enforce eugenics of a master race of soldiers), among a host of other war crimes.

The legion taking over would be the worst thing to happen to humanity since the great plague.

Ummm they never disregarded science and medicine.

Yes they do. Their culture admires strength and power. Painkillers, medicine, or any sort of weakness is immediately dealt with by death. science is plain laughed at for being synonymous with weaklings who rely on it rather than brute force. basically they follow the frat boy mentality "if it aint got muscles its weak".

did you even do Legion Quests?

No, my sources are the vault.

just play the game and do the quests instead of listening to that ncr biased website

Really? Because the vault talks about their entire culture and structure even before new vegas was even a thought. Its biased to the older fallouts, but not to factions.

go to any Legion/NCR quest page. how much is for NCR and How much is for Legion? try I Put A Spell on You. Theres a major bug for Legion faction that prevents the quest from completing, the "community" seems more occupied with ncr part then keeping it even.

Funny, maybe its because the NCR has more land and just more quests. Most of Legion territory cant be reached in New vegas.

i dont believe you get what im saying... The website is biased...try the questline for yourself and then comment back

How the hell is a site biased? Just because the legion doesn't get much coverage doesn't mean the vault is a smear site for the legion. I don't need to do the questline as i seen and read enough of the legion. I even seen the ending and what the legion has in store. The legion is a horrible choice and a step backwards to the time where barbianism is king. If you want i will even go as far to quote how many people went for what ending.

yeah its not like

Spoiler

the Legion supports the Followers after their takeover. defeat all powdergangers, restore order. and rule peacefully of over New Vegas

look it up

Oh yeah? that is not what the ending says.

Spoiler

The followers were slaughtered by the legion, creating a entire region devoted to suffering at the hands of the legion.

Legate is not Caesar. once again look it up

Oh yeah? Caesar's legion is Caesar's legion.

Spoiler

The only ending for the legion is the same, most were enslaved or killed and the rest lived under the legion's boot. That isn't peace, that is tyranny.

Caesar entered The Strip as though it was his Triumph. The Legion pushed the NCR out of New Vegas entirely, driving them back to the Mojave Outpost. The Legion occupied all major locations, enslaving much of the population and peacefully lording over the rest. Under the Legion's banner, civilization - unforgiving as it was - finally came to the Mojave wasteland.

Enslavement is not peace, nor is it good for anyone.

sure beats a new enclave ruling with corruption and killing civilians.

Oh yes because we all know a government automatically leads to another enclave. That must mean we have enclaves all over our modern world. Oh god forbid majestic 12 reads this or a vertibird might fly over to my house. /sarcasm.

NCR is not pre-war America. Its just some democracy with the regular bullshit. Corruption is inescapable in all forms of government. Tyranny under Caesar is the same as pre war American tyranny, except American tyranny is a gilded cage and the legion used an iron cage. An anarchist's view helps no one. You just have to accept that not all forms of government are perfect but the NCR has potential for actual peace. They have little to no racism or sexism which is more than the legion can ever say. It also helps that NCR has one of the most modern known city on the west coast instead of using crumbling pre-war buildings that no one seems to be able to fix.

Corruption is constant in all governments, but that doesn't mean nothing can be done about it. Even in Rome corruption was constant.

racism? The Legion isnt racist.

Spoiler

let Tabitha travel east and let the Brighfollowers escape and do the words "PEACEFULLY ruling over the wasteland and you do realize we are arguing over a video game

 

[Jedoro]

Anyone but Caesar, really. I'd definitely prefer to rule New Vegas myself and get the NCR to leave peacefully (I'd ally with them, but remain my own city-state), but if something happened I wouldn't be terribly opposed to NCR rule as long as I had a voice in what happened.

 

[Chicago Ted]

They have little to no racism or sexism which is more than the legion can ever say.

Isn't there a quest for the Super Mutants of Jacobstown to get rid of mercenaries that have been plaguing them. Mercenaries that were hired by the NCR to either drive the Super Mutants away from Jacobstown, or attack them so the NCR could have a reason to send soldiers there.