New Vegas Factions

[mentalkitty789]

Personally, I think the Golden Ending is the Independent Ending where you side with as many people as possible. I don't like how the NCR seems to forcefully annex settlements, the Legion is just way too violent for me, and Mr. House seems like a dictator.

No offense but in that ending aren't you pretty much doing what House was going to do? The only difference you're the one calling the shots by end game. That doesn't make you any better than House.
Yes that is probably the best ending, if you want control over who lives and who dies. Out of all the endings where you have to CHOOSE a side. I choose Mr. House, mostly because he is the most affective out of all of them. He doesn't have democracy to slow him down, and he isn't a crazy bastard like the Legion.

Well, didn't the House epilogue talk about how House ruled over New Vegas like a dictator? I don't remember, haven't played in awhile.

Autocracy is pretty much a dictatorship. The difference is Mr. House is a...'good' dictator. He didn't do anything stupid like indulge in worldly pleasures and kill anyone who looked at him wrong. (Mostly because he couldn't) He devoted himself to progress and order. While there are some people that will get wiped out, like if you get the kings to join the NHR then side with House. In the end House wants order and progress. He doesn't care about people's personal lives so it isn't like anyone is having their rights stripped. He only killed people or forced them out when they were a real threat to him.

 

[Veldaroth]

I didn't completely trust NCR and I murdered anyone I came across from the Legion, so I supported Mr House until I upgraded his robots, then I killed him and hooked up Yes Man. What can I say, Arcade wanted an independent New Vegas! I was disappointed with the ending, though. It wouldn't let me hook up the chem-making Khans with the Followers of the Apocalypse who needed supplies, so they couldn't do as much good as they should have otherwise. Also, apparently my character was too stupid to attempt to set up a descent government so New Vegas was in chaos. It is nice that Bethesda was able to incorporate so many possibilities, but they forgot some of the more important ones...

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

2. Which only lasted as long as people were around to fight and ENDED IN A DARK AGE THAT LOST MOST OF ROMAN ACHIEVEMENTS.

...which eventually lead to Caesar restarting it. It's a big loop.

3. Because he didn't want to share the oil. China tried to steal it instead of going nuclear for its energy.

China actually had a UN-certified claim to the last of the oil. Poseidon Energy beat the Chinese to tapping it, which is why the war started.

4. I wanted this kind of two scoops of death:

snippeh

You put up the hopes of everyone that day. Now this day wont come.

You get two scoops of Rexie instead.

 

[AlternatePFG]

Fair enough. I haven't played New Vegas in awhile (I was burnt out after 3 straight playthroughs) so my memory is a bit foggy.

Still, the Good karma ending for Legion, still ends up being a downer ending (Unless you honestly agreed with the Legions methods). The good ending for the NCR is somewhat ambiguous at best.

 

[Veldaroth]

Legion or independant are the best choices

NCR is corrupt and mr house is jst the same exact thing

I was playing female, so according to some of the slaves the Legion soldiers were contemplating raping me, so I killed them all. I vote for Independence.

 

[mentalkitty789]

Legion or independant are the best choices

NCR is corrupt and mr house is jst the same exact thing

I was playing female, so according to some of the slaves the Legion soldiers were contemplating raping me, so I killed them all. I vote for Independence.

I personally voted for Independence or Mr. House. Really it isn't much of a choice, in the end YOU want to be the one calling the shots. If you have to choose though who would you choose to support? Mr. House has my vote, the cold brilliant bastard.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

You do realize that everything on the Vault is pulled straight from the game, right?

Grizzly, Goth, and probably Ghouly are pro-NCR, if only because they grew up with the Tandi administration. I'm pro-Legion mostly because Caius Drusus was soooo cool.

And I mostly agree with the Legion's points and all.

>.>

<.<

2. From movies of pre-war america, which is just laughable.

Caesar actually read Julius Caesar's Commentarii, and a book called The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

3. If it isn't certified it doesn't mean shit. China's own fault there. They should have went nuclear like everyone else.r

Nobody but America could afford nuclear power, just warheads.

4. its not the same.

IS SO.

 

[hem dazon 90]

Legion or independant are the best choices

NCR is corrupt and mr house is jst the same exact thing

I was playing female, so according to some of the slaves the Legion soldiers were contemplating raping me, so I killed them all. I vote for Independence.

Shit they do that?

I am currently playing female and so far they're all right

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

Shit they do that?

I am currently playing female and so far they're all right

Ehhh.

Female degradation was never a part of the original Van Buren Legion (just like the Van Graffs never used to anything to do with Energy Weapons). I expect that it was written into the faction profile due to the tribalwoman Hecate and her War Daughters being the only tribe to successfully oppose the Legion, with help from the Viper remnants. :/

 

[BlumiereBleck]

I've gone NCR twice and Indy once. Though, technically speaking, I've only gotten the ending slides once since for some reason the game likes to crash about halfway through them...

just play the game and do the quests instead of listening to that ncr biased website

You do realize that everything on the Vault is pulled straight from the game, right?

its not the data IN GAME, every faction is pretty even on that its the way the website is pulled up. go to any Legion/NCR quest page...check out how long the Legion's walk through is compared to ncr, then go to bugs. a great example is I Put A Spell on You.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

its not the data IN GAME, every faction is pretty even on that its the way the website is pulled up. go to any Legion/NCR quest page...check out how long the Legion's walk through is compared to ncr, then go to bugs. a great example is I Put A Spell on You.

You do have a point. Most of the Legion quests (IE, Caesar's Hire, Caesar's Favor, and Caesar's Foe) are completely broken, and many of the original hopes for Legion quests centered on Vulpes Inculta, who ended up being a pretty poor character.

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

2. Arcade claims he saw gladiator movies as well.

I hate Arcade.

3. And essentially reverse engineering is china's flaw? Lets take a look at all the knock off electronics they made. China can copy things real good and usually cheaper. Europe is gone, Mexico is gone, everything but china and America was left on Earth before the nukes dropped. China has the ability to make people invisible (something we barely grasped now) but the concept of nuclear fission (an old concept) is impossible for them? Oh please.

Don't take it up with me. China had plenty of oil available to them through their own holdings in the remains of the Middle East. They just wanted security.

4. No its not.

Wanna bet?

 

[Nitpicker of the Wastes]

Why do you hate arcade so much?

His perk sucks. Seriously.

He's also a pretty shallow character, at least in my eyes. Blond hair, blue eyes, sarcastic attitude. Enclave. At least the other Remnants have the whole "old people in power armor" thing going for them.

I guess I'm supposed to like him because he's the obligatory 'gay male' to offset Veronica (who is infinitely better than him, mostly due to her one-liners), but seeing as I would already have been playing a gay male (hence my pro-Legion standpoint, *winkwink*) he just seems... bland.

 

[AlternatePFG]

One thing that bothered me about the Legion is that you never really got to know much about them. Almost every playthrough you'll bump into NCR before the Legion, and there's significantly less quests for them. Maybe I would be more interested in playing their plotline (there one is the only ending I haven't completed) if there was more sidequests.

I wonder if they can fix that with DLC?